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katrinab
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i was going to do the HPU, KPU (whatever its called) protocol but read this on a thread:

http://www.nasw.org/users/mslong/2009/2009_07/Biofilms.htm

zinc supplementation is part of the protocol but i dont want to add to any biofilms i might have. i wonder why this is being ignored by Dr. K. ummm, oh yea i wanted to ask what is most people using as an inexpensive biofilm killer? i think dr. b reccommends metronidazole for cyst busting, but not sure if its for biofilms too

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onbam
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I think Bb forms biofilms no matter what we do, and that if we're deficient in something, we need it more than we need Bb to not have it.

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cleo
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N acetyl cysteine is cheap and easy and breaks biofilms well.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1855497/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19899620

http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/content/39/5/643.abstract

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Marnie
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Ultrasound destroys biofilms too.

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jlcd1
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Didn't Dr. B say in his March 21st speech that Banderol plus Samento were biofilm busters?

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imagine2
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Marnie,
Can you elaborate on ultrasound...how it is used and why it works.

Thank you.

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lightparfait
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It depends on the type of biofilms you are wokingon...all biofilms are no the same as they come from different organisms. Dr. K is giving a seminar highlighting the new research outof Fry labs with the XMRV findings in some lyme patiens withlingering symptoms...and it seems that all MS sufferers they tested so far have this biofilm along with the autistic kids they tested...which also have lyme. so it is indivdual treatmnent depending on what is brewing underneath the lyme. new ultrasound is being used and new teting actrually shows this in the veins!!!! Biofilms in the veins and connective tissue I think I heard from them...also depending on if there is a mold issues....so no cookie cutter protocols work..and Dr. K treats individually and does not give the same thng to all. He tests in many different ways to make sure he is gong down the right direction.

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bcb1200
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EDTA busts biofilms too.

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Beagle
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bcb - what is EDTA?

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Marnie
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Member # 773

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Can help transport abx.

Ultrasonication significantly increased transport of gentamicin across biofilms that normally blocked or slowed gentamicin transport when not exposed to ultrasound. This enhanced transport may be partially responsible for the increased killing of biofilm bacteria exposed to combinations of antibiotic and ultrasound.

PMID: 15365858

NASA is interested too:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/Micro-2.html

Ultrasound therapies:

http://pain.about.com/od/treatment/f/ultrasound_therapy.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therapeutic_ultrasound

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