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I think the statement toward the end of the article sums it up pretty good:
"Lyme is going to take want it wants when it comes to minerals. You need to make sure your body gets what it needs to function properly and build your immune system."
I am certain that the mag helps me feel better. I personally will keep taking it daily because my body needs it. Thanks for sharing the article!
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Hello St Olaf I am not a doctor and have to qualify this as personal opinion. THis is not medical advice.
IT would seem to me that to weaken the body by starving it of nutrients---especially one like magnesium which is required for the synthesis of other nutrients-----is only to weaken the body's defenses against a bacteria which is already so adept at evading the immune system.
If that is the case, to my layperson's way of thinking I would (think out loud) that it is all the more important to keep the body as strong as possible to fight off the bugs.
How can a body keep up the good fight when it is weakened and malnourished?
I really don't know how significant the revelance of magnesium is to biofilms and how it weighs in the balance with the importance to bodily nutrition and support.
I would suggest it's a good question to ask a doctor about the matters weighed in the balance, and which one tips the scales.
I have a sneaking suspicion that to keep the body strong is the first and most important factor, but I could be wrong. Again I don't know how much the magnesium influences the spirochete's manufacturing of biofilms.
Consider the neurological profile with lyme. Magnesium would be a terribly important mineral to support the body in this situation.
My LLMD agrees that most lyme patients are deficient in magnesium.
Again I am told that it is involved in the synthesis of many other nutrients too.
I can't advise anybody else, but for my own self would be inclined to keep supplementing. I think keeping the body strong and nourished may be one of our best defenses in fighting off a bug. (NOt that magnesium is "The cure" and I am not claiming that. Instead, I am suggesting that to keep the body well nourished in general is probably important).
You could read about the mineral in Earl Mindell's The Vitamin Bible of the 21st Century. Perhaps that will yield more insight. (This will not include information about lyme disease, but will tell you a bit about the mineral itself).
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I agree with CI. Magnesium is essential to over 300 enzymes in the body. And a number of metabolic and energy production processes depend on magnesium to function as expected. When I was badly magnesium-deficient, I had severe body-wide muscle pain. I think it took severel IV magnesium infusions to restore my magnesium level and make the muscle pain go away. Those magnesium infusions felt absolutely wonderful, too...
And I've also heard calcium and/or fats are used by Bb to make biofilms. But we need both of those, too, for adequate nutrition and proper body function.
So I think the best thing to do is use the enzymes (nattokinase, etc.) to break down the biofilm instead of worrying about what nutrients make biofilms...and also I think it is important to keep supplementing with whatever nutrients you need (based on discussion with your doctor) to keep your immune system functioning as well as it can.
Just my $.02...
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Magnesium is a must. It's usually depleted because lyme likes it. Magnesium deficiency is not good and causes many problems. Its problems are known to cover up a proper diagnosis. Some folks are just treated for high blood pressure, told they're achy and tired because they don't take care of themselves and sent on their way.
We know better than that.
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I've heard that it's the oral form of mag that's the problem with biofilms (in the GI tract, I'm assuming?).
I agree that magnesium is essential to health and healing. However, there are other ways to increase magnesium than just oral--as Razzle mentioned, there's mag by IV and IM mag shots (though I've heard it's really painful).
I use transdermal magnesium oil and take magnesium baths daily. These things allow me to keep my oral mag to a minimum.
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klt: Mag baths? is this with epsom salts?
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Yes. I take a daily bath with 2 cups of epsom salt. It helps with mag levels and detox (replenishes the sulfate).
You might have to work up to 2 cups if you're not used to it.
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We may very well need it more than we need Bb to not have it.
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I was first diagnosed with fibromyalgia & they always tell people to supplement with magnesium. I took various forms for many years but I never really actually "felt" much of a difference.
It seems good to take many supplements but I can't say if it's really necessary or not - based on my experience. There are always doctors who come out with radical theories. I guess it's an individual thing.
It seems that as a whole, our country isn't generally healthier than others even though we have all these supplements. It's just something I think about.
I guess for me - if I don't really feel different from taking a specific supplement, I tend to slack off on it. I started dowsing all of my supplements & found that I actually need alot less than what had been recommended.
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