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bcb1200
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Thinking of starting this to compliment my Factive.

Just wondering what the typical ramp up protocol is, and what is considered a "full dose"?

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Paul Mall
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Phase 1: Challenge.




This is to show that you are using the correct forumula. Start with 1 drop in a small amount of water two times a day.




Hold the water in your Mouth 30-60 Seconds prior to swallowing.



Increase dose by 3 drops every 3 days. For example, day four increase to taking 4 drops two times a day and on day 7 increase to taking 7 Drops two times a day.



When you experience a Flare in your symptoms the challenge phase is over and we have shown that this is the correct formula to be using.



Phase 2: Treatment.




After your symptoms flare, Decrease the dose to 1 drop twice a day.




Remain at this does until you no longer feel any symptoms are being flared.



Then increase the dose by 2 drops.



If you do not experience any symptom flares in 3 days, You may continue to increase by 2 drops every 3 days.



If you experience any mild symptom flares, stay at that dose until symptoms improve.




If your symptoms are signifigant, decrease your dose by 1-2 drops, or more if needed , until your are not experiencing any symptom flares.




Then you can start adding more drops.



Maximum Dose is 20 drops two times a day.



Working up to the maximum dose may take several weeks to months.



Please remember you should not be experiencing any signifigant symptom flares on this treatment.



If you are, Your should decrease the dose.



(Shake Well)

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bcb1200
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Thanks...I assume I can take this while I'm on other drugs (i.e. Factive and Doxy).

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2/10 symptoms began
5/10 dx'd, after 3 months numerous test and doctors

IgM Igenex +/CDC +
+ 23/25, 30, 31, 34, 41, 83/93

Currently on:

Currently at around 95% +/- most days.

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Paul Mall
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My LLMD says it's fine to take in combination with the drugs

most people I know use it in combination

Paul

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although I did here one lyme friend mention they were on something that counter acted the effects but not a reaction or anything

Paul

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I can only go up 1/3 of a drop per week... Just wipes me out if I go faster than that. I did the challenge once and I lost a week of my life. I don't remember a thing.

My son is only going up 1/6 drop per week.

My wife seems to be able to go up rather quickly though.

I guess we're all different, just some of us are more different than others.

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bcb1200
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How does one increase by 1/3 of a drop? I don't get how you can divide a drop.

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2/10 symptoms began
5/10 dx'd, after 3 months numerous test and doctors

IgM Igenex +/CDC +
+ 23/25, 30, 31, 34, 41, 83/93

Currently on:

Currently at around 95% +/- most days.

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Paul Mall
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you divide a drop by putting 1 drop in a small amount of water

and then only drink half the water to get a half drop

Paul

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Many have started with 1/2,1/3 drop. These r very powerful herbs.Go slow www.bioresourceinc.com for info.Peeps that do not feel anything may need to be on another one first.All in layers.
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I started with 1 drop and it was rough. I only ramped up 1 drop every 5 days. I have been on 11 drops A-Bart and 12 drops A-Babs for quite a while.Waiting for A-Virus. Also doing SyImmune homeopathic cream and pills.Ask your docs about it.
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I started with 1 drop and the 4th night i got the herx. I never fell so much pain before.
Within a month i was taking 2 droppers every day.
I stopped because i couldn't deal with the skin reaction from it.

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