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I would like to start taking my bicycle to work. It's a 5 mile ride. I feel completely up to it, I've been improving quite well, but I would hate to hinder any progress.
I have heard a lot of different things in regard to the Aerobic stuff. I already do weights every other day. I would just like to enjoy the sun and save some money. Anyone do a complete backslide after starting aerobic excersize? (or a minor backslide?)
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I don't really understand why it is not suggested to do aerobics. I actually didn't even hear that until just recently and have been doing different types of exercise that would fall into the aerobics category.
What's the deal with not wanting us to do it?
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i think mainly because aerobic exercise increases spasticity and nerve issues... which most of us have here... However that doesn't mean it is good or bad, maybe the increase of symptoms, called exercise intolerance is a good thing in the long run... I try to ride my bike every weekeend and it's very nice:-) Not sure I could do it everyday though...
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Before I was diagnosed with Lyme-- I was tittering between being sick and being healthy, I started training for a half marathon (I have been a life long runner, but had taken off time). I started training very hard very quickly, and within 3 weeks I couldnt leave the house and have been sick for the last 2 years.
Just go slow, and pay attention to your body, if you feel like youre over doing it-- you are! If you feel ok, then listen to that :-)
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I was under the impression that the reason we're discouraged from doing aerobic exercise is because it temporarily suppresses the immune system.
Not something to mess around with, IMO.
I learned the hard way -- I was feeling good for most of the fall/winter and I attempted a too-rigorous exercise program in January. I believe this is what caused me to start getting sicker again.
I really, really would not disregard this one if I were you.
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I'm pretty sure from Dr. B's guidelines it has to do with sucking the oxygen out of your body. Aerobic means your body is using and requires more oxygen.
The bacteria hates oxygen and "hides" from it. So if you do exercise that depletes your muscles and body of oxygen, it gives the bacteria the upperhand for a bit.
Also my dr. said I should not do anything that will create lactic acid in my body. The acid would hinder my recovery.
I was a runner pre-lyme and am desperate to get back to it but promised the dr, I'll wait until I'm well again I was told walking is good, just make sure I don't get to a point of breathlessness.
Someone may correct me on all this... I'm hoping my memory is right about it!
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I'm torn on this one as well. I understand the suppressing of the immune system temporarily and the oxygen depletion however bacteria also does not like high tissue temperatures which is why FIR sauna is beneficial. I personally started to run 3 days a week between 2-3 miles trying to increase my body temperature. I can tell when I'm wiped out and just make sure I get to bed a little early on those days.
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I am a runner/triathlete. I am at the point in my treatment where I can run upward to 30 miles a week with no negative effects. It was not a quick road....
Had chronic/neuro. lyme for over 7 years and off and on treatment. Only from recent treatment have I been able to get healthy again.
What worked for me was doing 50% of what I felt I could do and had the the 50% for recovery. I never ran 2 days in a row and took 2-3 days off for recovery. I listened to my body and knew the minute I woke up whether I could run or not.
Recovery in the form of food and rest was key for me in being able to tolerate cardio early on.
Slowly the days that I was able to run increased as did my excerice tolerance. Then came the point where I felt the cardio. was helping with my recovery and it seemed to really be a springboard for deeper healing.It was when my body was well enough to deal with the herx that followed my runs that I really began to see a difference.
The way I see it the increase in oxygen did not always cause the ketes to hide but rather helped to erradicate them as did the increase in body temp.
I think being a chronic lyme person and a runner over the past 7 years my running may have caused the lyme to go into cyst form due to the hostile environment I created but with the proper meds and timing I was able get them out of hiding and them slam em.
This is not a one size fits all disease so you really need to find what works for you. Just take it slow and easy in the beginning and know that it is not always a linear process!
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From Burrascano, page 31:
"Despite antibiotic treatments, patients will NOT return to normal unless they exercise, so therefore an aggressive rehab program is absolutely necessary. It is a fact that a properly executed exercise program can actually go beyond the antibiotics in helping to clear the symptoms and to maintain a remission.
Although the scientific basis for the benefits of exercises is not known, there are several reasonable theories. It is known that Bb will die if exposed to all but the tiniest oxygen concentrations. If an aggressive exercise program can increase tissue perfusion and oxygen levels, then this may play a role in what is being seen.
Also, during aggressive exercise, the core body temperature can rise above 102 degrees; it is known that B. burgdorferi is very heat sensitive. Perhaps it is the added tissue oxygenation, or higher body temperature, or the combination that weakens the Lyme Borrelia, and allows the antibiotics and our defenses to be more effective. Regular exercise-related movements can help mobilize lymph and enhance circulation. In addition, there is now evidence that a carefully structured exercise program may benefit T-cell function: this function will depress for 12 to 24+ hours after exercise, but then rebound.
This T-cell depression is more pronounced after aerobics which is why aerobics are not allowed.
The goal is to exercise intermittently, with exercise days separated by days of total rest, including an effort to have plenty of quality sleep. The trick is to time the exercise days to take advantage of these rebounds. For an example, begin with an exercise day followed by 3 to 5 rest days; as stamina improves, then fewer rest days will be needed in between workouts.
However, because T-cell functions do fall for at least one day after aggressive exercises, be sure to never exercise two days in a row.
Finally, an in intermittent exercise program, properly executed, may help to reset the HPA axis more towards normal. On the following page is an exercise prescription that details these recommendations. ...
The program must evolve into a graded, ultimately strenuous exercise program that consists of a specific regimen of non-aerobic conditioning- see below."
The reason Burrascano continually emphasizes no aerobic exercises is because they supress the immune system too long.
You have to wait until you are well to do them. That includes bike riding.
From page 32:
"A simple walking program will not work, and simply placing the patient on a treadmill or an exercise bike is not acceptable (except very briefly, as part of a warm-up), as aerobics can be damaging and must be avoided."
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OK, I'm convinced... I'll wait. My bike will be there when I'm ready. I guess I'm stuck at the pump for a while!
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I was told walking is good, just make sure I don't get to a point of breathlessness.
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