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sparkle7
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HIV is actually a retro-virus...
There are alot of theories about things. I guess you have to study it all & decide for yourself. I do think the tick saliva is a big part of the equation.
For all we know, Lyme could be targetted towards people with specific genetics?
(Thanks payne.)
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Well if LD can be transmitted in utero and via breastmilk why would it be surprising to find out it could be transmitted sexually???
I think we need to go back to basics---how is syphilis transmitted? How is AIDS transmitted? Granted AIDS is viral, but is there one person here who hasn't been diagnosed with a virus??
There are many pieces to this puzzle that are missing. James, thanks for this post. Sometimes we need to step back and think about these things.
And Sparkle, I too wonder about the genetics of it all.
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map1131
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Bingo AlanaSuzanne. Nobody has proven to me anything when it comes to lyme & co.
Heck fire they can't even dx it, treat it effectively, or know much of anything about it if you ask me.
When the day happens that they find out the truth about LYME & CO and they know it backwards and frontwards I will still say never say never because this is the wildest thing I know of.
So unprotected sex is okay with my husband. He doesn't know it but I do he already has lyme & co.
He just hasn't fallen to his knees yet. Maybe he will get lucky and not fall? But I doubt it, because his lifestyle is a waiting timebomb.
Or I should say tickbomb.
Pam
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quote:Originally posted by erikjh1972: the comparison with AIDS makes sense if people think its a std. im not comparing the 2, but if people think lyme is an std then it makes sense. more people would have it, plan and simple.
and i realize lyme has been around for hundreds of years but my point was it really hit the main stream in the 70's.
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Tammy N.
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Yes, I think it is an STD. Lyme (a spirochete) is a cousin to syphilis.
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glm1111
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Ditto AlanaSuzanne,
Also, just like the Aids virus can lie dormant even tho someone has been infected with HIV, so can Lyme. Some people can be infected for a lifetime and not exhibit symptoms.
BTW, Parasites, which are highly contagious are usually a big part of this soup, can also be sexually transmitted. I hate this disease!!!!!
Gael
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When I first came on this site, I was shocked at all the comparisons made to HIV.. I think for any newbie that comes here and reads this, would be quite terrifying. I think that responsibility in providing true and accurate information should be paramount here.
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sparkle7
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Borrelia burgdorferi is very complicated.
FYI - A bacterial genome in flux: the twelve linear and nine circular extrachromosomal DNAs in an infectious isolate of the Lyme disease spirochete Borrelia burgdorferi.
But what of the relatives of B. burgdorferi? Perhaps one of the most infamous of these is Treponema pallidum, the bacterium that causes syphilis. in contrast to Lyme disease, syphilis is not a modern affliction; it was first recognized in the 15th century in Europe. It is similar to B. burgdorferi in that it is a spirochete with a relatively small genome and requires a host to survive; however, at the genomic level, the two organisms are not very closely related to each other at all.
Of the 1041 protein-coding regions in Treponema pallidum, 476 are shared with B. burgdorferi, but nearly half of these are common to other bacteria too, and most have a predicted biological function. Of the genes with unknown function, there are about 50 that are conserved only in the spirochetes and are not found in any other bacteria. Some of these are likely to represent genes that code for spirochete-specific traits, such as their helical shape and perhaps elements of their pathogenicity.
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fyi tho, borrelia vincentii is actually contagious through kisses and if you have full blown trench mouth or vincent's disease (severe periodontal disease) you shouldn't come into contact with others mouths, gentals, bung holes, etc.
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sparkle7
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I think part of the problem is the co-infections - whether they are parasites, viruses, fungi or yeast or bacteria. It's the combination of things that is bad.
It's very odd to me that 2 things that are symbiotic are in the same tick - the microfilarial worms & these infections. Added people may be exposed to herpes virus & other pathogens, toxic chemicals, & emfs. There also may be genetic components.
Spirochetes have been weaponized for a long time. The Japanese were experimenting with them since before WW2. All of this stuff is bad news.
I can't say 100% that it is not transmitted via body fluids but if it were easily spread - everyone would be ill by now. Maybe we all have it in our bodies & it's just a matter of time before it causes damage?
I would think it would be in meat & milk, as well. I'm sure there are ticks in fields with cows & steers. I guess we just have to decide for ourselves what to do about it & how careful we should be.
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payne
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we came into this world through sex. perhaps we will leave this world through sex. the big picture, God gives, God takes.
Blessings to you all, hoping your days are many and bright, I HATE THIS DISEASE TOO. humbly wayne.
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