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How has ozone blood therapy worked for hypercoagulation? Per treatment cost?
Seems the more oxygen my blood can carry the better I will think, feel, and heal.
As part of my treatment I am thinking about trying this therapy stateside and noted the improvements for the folks that went to Germany.
I am taking Nattakinese and just started Serrapeptase.
Thanks, MattH
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Nattokinase and serrapeptase work for me.
What dose are you taking?
Were you tested for a hypercoagulation disorder?
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I have been taking Fibronol (two daily) and Nattokinase (three daily). On Tuesday I added Serrapeptase at 5 per day. I have gotten some improvement on the leg pain by adding the Serrapeptase.
I have not been tested for hypercoagulation yet. I do have signficant neuro symptoms.
If I have Lyme (I am doing a DR directed ABX challenge test this weekend), I have had it for more than 30 years. Dr. K suggest that people with Lyme that long are at high risk of hypercoagulation (not a direct quote but what I interpret from his KPU presentation).
My current LLMD does not provide ozone treatment. However he does not have a problem with me trying it.
So I am wondering if it has worked others with late stage Lyme to get more oxygen into the blood and reduce the hypercoagulation. I realize this is not a cure but may buy time while going through treatment.
All the Best, MattH
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How many milligrams of Nattokinase are you taking 3 times a day? 50 mg? 100 mg?
How many milligrams of Serrapeptase? or FU's?
FU= Fibrinolytic Unit.
100 mg of nattokinase = 2000 FU's
I don't know about Fibrinol, that's new to me. How many milligrams or FU's are you taking?
Do you notice any symptoms of hypercoagulation? Oh, i see, leg pain. That sounds significant!
Why not get the coagulation panel blood test? Then you'd have some official documentation.
I think you can get all the fibrinolytic action you need conveniently from pills. Ozone therapy sounds like a hassle! There's also lumbrokinase ; i've never taken that, it's expensive.
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I will request the coagulation panel from by LLMD. Symptoms, varicos and spider viens, swollen legs and feet, leg, knee and hand pain. Sometimes I get a gout flair.
I am trying the Serrapeptase for now, may try lumbrokinase but as you know if is very expensive ($1 per pill).
I am taking 2 x 2000fu capsules one in the moring and once before bed.
Serrapeptase 2 x 40000 units morning, 2 evening, 2 before bed.
Fibronon is an extract from brown seaweed (Seanol F) and is supposed to help with circulation. I notice the difference when I do not take it. Seems to help with hand and foot pain, still there but not as intense. I have been holding off on asperins since I thought I had Lyme. LLMD has me on abx challenge test this weekend. Day one Flagyl, day two and three Biaxin.
I get these from Iherb. I have noticed the serrapeptase has improved my pain also and I read that you should double the dose initially and then when it starts working you can back down. So I started at 6 and have been using it for a week and look to cut back one or two next week.
I assume for me they are reducing some imflammation and thus reducing the foot, knee and hand pain. Nothing else to report yet.
All the Best,
MattH
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Matt, you should also run the Factor V Leiden genetic mutation test to rule out any innate clotting issues.
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I personally take 5 nattokinase pills (@ 2000 FU's each, 100mg each), 3 times aday, plus a couple more in the middle of the night.
That's the dose my body tells me to take. If i take fewer pills, i start getting lower leg symptoms.
If i do get any lower leg symptom, i just take a few more nattokinase pills, and the symptom goes away immediately.
I'm taking a much higher dose than you, and i have no symptoms. I have one or two genes for blood clots.
I also take Horse Chestnut twice a day. That's for varicose veins; shouldn't you take that too?
I take ginko pill twice a day, for circulation.
I do take serrapeptase once or twice a day, but don't notice any difference. It's said to be effective against biofilms.
The coagulation panel that i took was the first step, before a gene analysis. They can tell something about your genes from the blood test, before going to the expense of a gene analysis.
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Polly, could you please identify the name of the coagulation panel and the lab used? Many thx!
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It was a local lab used by my local hospital.
I think it was just called Coagulation Panel, a few years ago.
I haven't researched what the national labs would call it.
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