I've been noticing over past few weeks my urine is VERY pale, almost clear (even when my fluid intake has not been a lot), with lots of bubbles/froth. Also, over the past 10 days my sense of taste is really deadened, I can taste things, but very blah, so not completely gone, but not right at all - and this is just really a bummer as I'm a foody, who isn't? My tongue has been numb for the better part of 5 years, thought maybe this was just another cranial nerve issue - but after reading more about kidneys, not so sure.
I am on IV Merrem. I advised my LLMD of this, they are sending me a requisition for a urinalysis along with other blood work. My every 2 week blood work has been unremarkable as far as kidney function. I have read the bubbles can indicate protein in urine.
I have also read that improper kidney function can cause the taste distortion due too much ammonia in fluids when kidneys are not properly removing toxins.
Anyway, something is definitely up. I'm rather freaked out, but was not advised to stop the meds yet. I probably won't get the test requisitions until next week, giving me all weekend to brew about it, ugh.
My infusion pharmacist said she thought if the med was causing kidney distress my urine would be dark, not clear.
Any input, experiences, advice to help would be so great. I hope it's the med and not Lyme now destroying my kidneys....I'm really stressing about this. TS
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why are you tasting your urine? sorry i couldn't resist it looked funny worded that way in the post could the bubbles be yeast? maybe someone else here knows
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Tee hee. I'm actually pretty down and defeated right now...so I could use a little lightening up, thanks Scott!
Anybody have thoughts on the weird clear, bubbly urine? How about the lack of taste of food? (no, not urine) I'm sort of stressed about all of this.
I'm really sick of the numb tongue....but, I'd rather deal with that than no taste of food, it's really got me down. I guess it sounds trivial. Like all of you, I deal with SO MANY awful symptoms, to no longer have the pleasure of food taste has me really bummed. I pray it's not forever. I'm also not a very big person and worry about weight loss that I surely don't need. It's hard to be motivated about eating when everything has very little taste. I get hungry, so I eat; however, I already see that after short order I'm ready to stop - so not eating the usual quantity - since it doesn't taste like much and a little bit of food fixes the hunger.
My labs today for creatinine and albumin are normal range. Would a urinalysis check for things that could be missed? Another type of more thorough kidney blood work?
If it were yeast, which is not at all visible on my tongue, would my sense of taste go out the window? Any insight? Thanks.
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Hello Friend ,
seems like I can always relate to your dilemas.
I have very clear urine as well. Mine is not horribly bubbly, but usually has about 2-3 half-dollar sized 'bubbly colonies'.
I drink a lot of water/liquids though..
kidney function tests are fine.
my sense of taste is diminished, but not completely gone. I haven't much of an appetite at all.
I have had the clear/bubbly urine for over a year....
try this, instead of going in the toilet bowl, go in a cup. Does it still look as clear as water?
Mine does not, It becomes a straw to pale yellow color.....
do you have sinus fullness? facial swelling by any chance? Some other ideas floating around in my head......
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Focus on the kidneys
Parsley, marshmallow root
Also take ornithine/asparate combo
You may have ammonia issues (all too commmon with Lyme)
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Vitamin B12 deficiency can cause numb tongue and deadening of sense of taste. I'd urge you to supplement even if blood test shows no deficiency, because 1) the blood test "normal range" used in the USA is well below that of other countries, 2) Vit. B12 deficiency-related nerve damage can become permanent if not treated, and 3) Lyme uses up Vit. B12. Also be sure to supplement with a comprehensive B-Complex.
For the ammonia detox, yucca root powder sprinkled on protein-rich food (such as meat, fish, eggs, nuts, etc.) in any meal may help.
Yeah, I've read that the bubbles in urine signifies protein in the urine as well. Glad your doctor is sending you for urine tests...
Good luck,
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GiGi
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Rule out KPU.
Good kidney function/urine when on killing meds should not be light, but brownish and stinky. If you are killing critters, you are also releasing toxic metals and kidneys have a rough time filtering and detoxing especially if some of the important minerals are missing.
Kidney support is very important - Solidago, Unda 243, Renelix.
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If your urine is "bubbly"/"frothy" it likely means protein in your urine which could be problematic.
I don't have any idea what could be causing your sense of taste to be deadened nor what can be causing your tongue to be numb. Those issues to me aren't related to kidney function, but then again I'm not a doc.
Ditto what Razzle said about the Vit 12 deficiency and related sx.
I'd ask your doc for another urinalysis and additional bloodwork.
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You would need a 24 hour urine for the bubbles. I have loads of bubbles, but not the clear problem. I think if the bubbles could be protein of us or also protein from the die-off, like tiny dead bacteria or parasites ...parasitology labs offer a urine test for this.
Would only our protein bubble or any protein like things? Can yeast make bubbles - is yeast protein?
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Gigi, thanks for the article. I have low zinc and low chromium. I do not understand why this causes bubbles = protein problems.
Wanted to pm you as you said you had lesions. Mine are better with amoxi cream and RO 5081.
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I really appreciate everybody's input. I see my doc in San Fran in a couple of weeks; he is a well respected ILADS doc. Thanks Gigi, I will take the HPU/KPU info printed out and discuss it with him. I need a doc to help me through that to make sure I am tested properly and treated correctly.
Feelfit, yes, we share so many of the same symptoms. I tell ya, I do have worse symptoms, however, this lack of taste thing is getting me very depressed. It feels like one more thing, the small pleasure of eating is now being taken away, sigh.
Thanks Razzle - I have used sublingual B12 in the past, for months. Then for the last few month was doing infections 3 x weekly. My LLMD had me stop them as I noticed no change in the numbness of my tongue, or other symptoms for that matter. I don't know what to think. Like so many of you, I am chasing wellness and have pursued many different directions. Unfortunately, so far, I'm not getting very far....thanks again. TS
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GiGi
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The Hypoglossus nerve runs through the tongue. Often, like mine was, it is affected by heavy metals. If you have not paid attention to heavy metal toxicity, you may want to look into that. If you fall into KPU, detoxing metals is very difficult. If allergic - read Allergie Immun thread.
Filling the B12 hole is important, but it will not eliminate the toxic load alone.
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