Tincup
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Just to be clear- I don't like baths. Not at all. I am a shower person, but now I need to know how to take a bath for detoxing.
I have a large antique claw-foot tub that I refinished, which is now operational. Finally!
And preferably I need a bath where I don't drown, don't pass out from heat of the hot water, or fall getting in or out.
I also need to know some details please... like....
1. Since not all of me stays totally underwater at all times, do you keep the upper body under the water the most, or the lower body?
2. Do you rinse off after the bath or let the bath oils or salts stay on your skin? If best that you leave them on your skin after you get out of the tub, for how long do you do that?
3. If using Epsom Salts in the tub, how much do you use?
4. When using bath oil in the tub, like I did today, it gets slick and slippery and it is very hard to not fall. Any hints there?
5. How long do you have to sit there in the tub waiting to get out?
6. What can you do to make it not so boring? I sit there, stare at the walls, and sit some more. That is not much fun.
7. Since I am not much at all on hot water, do you still detox if the water is cool?
8. Do I let my head/hair get partially in the water? Will it damage my hair to have it soaking in epsom salts or herbal oils? (Mine is long & hard to keep "up" and out of the water.)
9. If using clay in the tub for detox, how do you mix it?
10. Anyone know of an EASY way to clean the tub after soaking in it? Is there a special cleaner to cut through the oil or salt residue?
I tried cleaning the tub today BEFORE getting out so I wouldn't have to reach and bend so much.
That was not only weird, (and perhaps stupid?), it was dangerous. Nearly broke my bones trying to balance myself while wet and in an oily tub.
I am going to have to get a bar to grab so I don't fall getting in/out. Working on that now.
I am also going to have to find something to occupy my mind while sitting there.
Can't see to read books, afraid my scrabble game will get wet if I try to play it while in the tub, so what's a girl to do?
If I don't occupy my mind while in the tub I end up sitting there thinking about all the questions about baths I need answered!
I have a big garden tub. I use 4 cups of epsom salts and 2 cups of baking soda for my detox bath.
Make the water as hot/warm as you can be comfortable. Really hot makes some people feel worse so you will have to let your body be your guide.
I soak at least 20 minutes, half an hour is better and do not rinse off.
During this time, you can practice deep breathing and when you are bored doing that, read in the tub. I read magazines while soaking. Warning, your reading material may get wet, so don't bring a good book in there with you.
Cleaning the tub is a colossal pain. Baking soda can be cleaned off the tub with a good scrubbie.
I feel great after doing this and sleep much more soundly. Pain is better too.
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Hi there, I use at least 4 cups of Epsom salts and at least half a quart (16ml) of Hydorgen Peroxide.
Water is as hot as I can stand to open pores.
I sit in there at least 30mins.
I bring a radio, or sing worship songs if I am bored
The salt crystals should all be dissinigrated by the time you are finished with your bath.
Love them... they are my go to when my legs cramp up badly. It gives me instant relief
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1. I scoot down, to get me upper body (shoulders, neck and lower head) since that is where my pain is.
2. I have read several posts on Lymenet that suggest rinsing off so that the toxins are not reabsorbed back into your system.
3. 4 cups epsom salt, 1 bottle of peroxide & some grated ginger wrapped in a coffee filter and tied with a rubberband (opens up your pours and is also said to be anti inflammatory).
4. I do not use bath oils, but maybe baking soda will help ??
5. I have read, not more than 20 minutes long in the bath.
6. It actually goes quickly and it is a nice excuse to clear my brain and do some breathing exercises.
7. I make the water warm, not too hot. I would think it would be more beneficial to open the pores a bit. Cool water would close them IMHO.
8. If you use the peroxide I would not get my hair wet as some say it can cause discoloration. If I just use Epsom and Ginger I immerse my head and keep my face out. (enables breathing )
9. Clay ? Have not heard of this one but am interested in hearing others experience.
10. I just rinse since I do not use oil. Maybe try a long handle mop so you don't have to bend ?
A Bar would be a fantastic idea !! I would stay away from bath oils, too dangerous I WOULDN'T WANT TO BREAK MY TUSH.
How about listening to some music while you soak ? Or catch up on a phone call ?
My husband TELLS me when I need a bath, I feel immediate relief from them. If I am especially achy and cranky, it works wonders !!!
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Do you all use regular peroxide or food grade?
I read somewhere that there are a lot of chemicals in regular peroxide.
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I use regular....
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Instead of having to worry about getting out of the tub, why not take a foot bath and doing it often using detox agents or your choice or agents you need to absorb, i.e. magnesium oil.
Absorption through foot baths is very efficient and so is detoxing through the feet; and your electric bill will not cause you to go into shock.
Take care.
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Warning: Please use only FOOD GRADE hydrogen peroxide when taking baths!!! "Regular" h2o2 (3%) has tons of chemicals in it, including heavy metals!!
3% h2o2 is not stable by itself for any short length of time, so that's why they have to add stabilizing chemicals.
It's best to use 35% food-grade h2o2. It seems a little expensive, but in reality I think it's only a little more expensive than the 3% stuff. One gallon of 35% solution equals the same h2o2 as 12 gallons of 3% solution.
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Another benefit of getting 35% h2o2 is that you could ingest it daily in diluted solutions. This is very therapeutic for many illneses.
The 35% stuff is even blessed by the FDA! (i.e. the FDA is doing whatever they can to try to ban it).
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Tincup
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WOW! NIce responses!!! Great ideas too! Maybe, just maybe, I can have some fun in the tub!
Thanks so much for laying it out there! All information is appreciated!
Tincup
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First things first. Thanks to you all, I finally had a bath I liked! Wow!
That hasn't happened since I was a little kid and they invented Mr. Bubble!
BTW- Do you know Mr. Bubble will be 50 years old this year?
Anyhow...
Did you ever meet someone who was just plain old unlucky?
My latest instructions were to shower first, then take a long bath with a lot of salt in the water, both sea salt and epsom salt.
I was told I could bathe, then later the same day bathe again using the same salt water mixture (save money).
I was told I didn't need to rinse the salt off me in between.
Hmmmmmmm.... ok.
About an hour after my first bath, while still having salt on me, a BIG dog decided it wanted to chase a raccoon. I happened to be standing in the doorway between the dog and the raccoon when the dog decided it wanted to bust past me on its way outside.
As the dog jumped and bolted, he hit my bare foot with his big hoofs and punctured the top my foot in four places with his claws and scratched me across the top of my foot in 2 other places.
You know the old saying about putting salt in the wound?
OUCH!!!! It really does hurt!
And now, yes now.... me and my swollen, punctured, purple, scratched foot has to get back in that hot, salt water filled bath tub.
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Only you, TC!!! Only you!!!
Does the dog with big hooves chase spiders and mice too? If so, better get out of the doorway!
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Tincup, I bet your foot really hurts! Yikes!
It is good to use a natural skin brush and brush your skin in a counter-clockwise direction up towards the heart before taking a detox bath.
Since it is a detox bath, I believe you should rinse off right after it. I don't know if reusing the water is a good idea since it was used for detoxing.
I hope your foot heals quickly.
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Just be careful if you have severe joint pain like me (or install some hand rails on the wall.) I tried to do the epsom salts detox bath but found out AFTER I was in the tub that my joint pain was so severe that I couldn't get myself out! This was really a "Help, I've fallen and can't get up episode" and I live alone except for 2 dogs & a cat (who were no help). I finally managed to get myself out of the tub. Needless to say, I will not be trying that any time soon until my pain subsides or I can get some of those hand rails installed!
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Tincup
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17 you are funny! I do hope that doggie will! And I hope I am out of the way when it goes after them!
Sammi said.. "Since it is a detox bath, I believe you should rinse off right after it."
Bless your heart. You are absolutely right. NOT washing off didn't seem right, but I couldn't think why!
It is kind of embarrassing that sometimes we just can't come up with a sensible answer and you just made it all make sense. THANK YOU!!!
Glad you are here doing the thinking for me. My mind is not near what I hoped it would be. I'm sure most of us know that feeling!
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UGGGGG! I am sorry you had such troubles. It is dangerous to get stuck like that. Last night I also had trouble, and I had epsom salt in tub, and got out with more knee pain than I usually ever have.
To top it off, the sea salt mix had lavender oil in it, making the tub slippery!
I wonder if the epsom salt had something to do with making the knee pain worse?
Otherwise I felt fine. Hmmmmm???
And like you, I darn near took a dive several times trying to get my knees to get me up and out of the tub.
I agree, hand rails are a must. Please have some installed. I am working on that now.
Tincup
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Sammi!
I forgot to ask about the natural skin brush you mentioned. I'm not familiar. Would a scrubbie rag thing be the same, or is that brush something more specific?
I have to be careful with my skin. The ACA problem makes it peel off easily (even wearing long pants that rub my knees makes the skin peel), and the nerve damage/pain makes it very sensitive (a sheet laying on me sometimes hurts).
But I am willing to try to do that in a small area to see how that works. Any thoughts on it?
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If you have extra cash just lying around, you could look into those walk in bathtubs. It fits into a regular tub space. They have a door that opens where you step in, sit on the little ledge seat, close the door, then start to fill the tub. So you take a bath sitting up. I was thinking that would be so great for my mother, but I don't have the money for it.
I would just be happy to have a tub where I didn't lie there like a beached whale with my bum and back in the water and all of my top exposed. That's really chilly. hehehe I might switch to a footbath, though, to avoid the depressing "beached whale" syndrome.
Oh, and start out slow with the epsom salts just in case you don't tolerate them as well as others. I started with one cup and that was enough to cause diarrhea. But, I do tend to be more sensitive to things like that than the normal person.
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Tincup
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Beached whale-
Thanks for the warning on the epsom salts! Don't need that too!
Those walk in tubs sound nice, but no $$ here. But, I can dream, can't I?
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Hi Tincup!
You can get natural bristle skin brushes at several places including Target. They are inexpensive.
I don't think it would be good for you to use a brush because of the skin peeling and nerve pain you have. It seems like brushing might make them worse. I am very sorry you are dealing with those issues also.
Can you use a scrubbie thing without problems? If so maybe try that in a small area, but don't if it makes things worse.
Tincup
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Thanks Sammi! Will try to check a brush out next time I hit the stores. I will say though, that just thinking about brushing the skin gives me the shivers. So yes, will try a small area.
I use a soft scrubbie VERY lightly because I want to kick off any ticks that might be wandering around and because I can't hold a washcloth in my hand without dropping it every 15 seconds when showering. That bending to pick it up can make you dizzy!
But, it is always wet and slick with soap when I use it, so there may be a difference?
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Tincup, I would not use the brush if I were you.
Maybe you can try the scrubbie gently on a small area before getting into the bath or just take the bath without brushing. You don't want to make your skin issues or nerve pain worse.
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Tincup
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Thanks Sammi. I think I will pass on that for a while and get use to just the baths.
I also wanted to mention, after going to several pharmacies and stores and checking prices...
I went to a farm supply store and the epsom salts were, as someone suggested, much cheaper there.
I paid $1.33 per pound. It was sold in 4 lb bags. It may be cheaper in larger quantities too, but I was in a hurry and didn't ask if they could order it that way.
I also didn't ask if it was sold with lavender scent, as I could imagine the response I'd get...
"We never noticed the horses preferred lavender scented salts to soak their hoofs in over the regular salts."
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