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lauirel
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I have read many threads about this herb. I have yet to glean any specific information about it.

I have read recommendations of anywhere from 3 to 20 capsules of HH. But I fail to see any information on how many milligrams are in each capsule, there for getting a general recommendation in mg's instead of capsules. ???

How many of you are taking the capsules instead of using it as a tea as is recommended by chinese pharma. I thought in tea form, the constituents of the herb are then liberated from the herb due to the warm water, and there for more effective than taking capsules of the whole herb. ???

And the same studies posted here about the pharmacological action of HH are the same ones one can glean off the general net, and yet do not tell me anything about how the herb works. ???

Anyone have some useful links for more specific information?

Its been a couple of years, and after methylation treatments, I seem to be again dealing with Bart.

Lauirel

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Dr Zhang's HH-2 capsules are 300mg his HH are 250mg. I've heard take 12 a day. I can't afford that. I found H on a site and it comes in individual packets like sugar at .35 per packet. One packet is 10 gms. you dilute in 3 cups of water and drink 1 cup three times daily. 1000mg = 1gm. Haven't started yet but I'm starting at 1/2 cup daily and work up from there.
I don't know mechanism of action from H.

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I called them about HH2 vs HH1 because 300mg is not double 250mg. They said something like the active ingredient is double and that the filers didn't increase that much hence the odd difference in mg.

Also HH2 even at very high dosages didn't seem to do anything for me.

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lauirel
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Thank you two. I am really confused still as to dosage. I ordered some HH, but it was from an herbal source in bulk form. Chinese pharma states to make a tea out of HH in order to activate the "active" ingredient in it. And the stuff I have came with recommendations to use one of its measuring spoons which come with the product to make one cup of tea. And to drink the tea, three times a day. And each of its measuring spoons will give you 1 gram of the active ingedient in HH. So in essence, I am taking 3 grams per day.

The bulk form I ordered contains 100 teaspoons per bottle. Two bottles came with the order, so essentially this should last me a total of 60 days. I find it hard to think I would drink more than three cups, foul stuff that it is in a tea. I have started putting a teabag in with it, to mask some of the foulness.

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Zhang's HH is five times more potent than the next leading brand from Chinese Herbs. But you can't just take five times as much of the other brand because Zhang's HH has the putrid dead fish odor and taste that is significantly different and much more powerful.

You have to take A LOT. I took up to 20 capsules a day (10 of HH-2). It is extremely expensive. Bartonella is not very responsive to herbs so no matter what you take herbally it is not going to get rid of it unless you take an abx with it.

Taking the pure herb as a tea, is not potent enough to do anything. It is like artemesia versus artemesinin versus artesunate and artemether. Artemether, a derivative of artemesia is a powerful drug. But even it will not cure babesia without an antimalarial.

These infections are virulent!!

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