Topic: Just Heard About New Treatment For Chronic Lyme
Bugg
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Hi All-
My husband just got a call tonight from someone who knows I've battled lyme for years. He wanted to pass along that a woman that he knows who was severely ill from lyme for 5 years has fully recovered using the combination of Lumbrokinase (the Doctor's Best brand should be used) along with Allimed. The combo must be used together. Apparently she herxed SEVERELY the first 6 days and felt better on the 7th day. She says she's completely well six months later.
The person who contacted my husband said he knows of another woman who has started the combo and feels better than she has in years...
I'm supposed to find out more info in the next few days and will post here. I realized some people on this board has tried Lumbrokinase and Allimed but it seems most tried them separately........
I'll post more when I learn more..
Anyone tried this combo with the Doctor's Best Lumbrokinase and Allimed???
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James1979
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I take both of those, but usually I take them slightly separated, like with a space of an hour or two. I've never heard that the combo was especially effective. I do know that both products are considered very good for standard Lyme therapy.
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scorpiogirl
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How awesome would it be it that was true. At this point I have become such a skeptic! What about co-infections? How will this help my neurolyme and peripheral neuropathy??
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Haley
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Maybe you could also let us know how much she took.
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Bugg
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Obviously, this information is just anecdotal...This week I'll try to determine more information...what doctors these people see...what dosage...etc...Anyway, if/when I get more info, I'll post it....
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nefferdun
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Allimed - stabilized allicin from garlic.
I took zhang's allicin and could only tolerate it a month. Most people can't last that long. It is so putrid - made we gag to smell it and when I was burping it up, that was it.
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GiGi
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My major treatment in 1998, after addressing dental issues caused by many root canals, was freezedried organic garlic minimum 9 capsules a day (the highest quality available/Biopure/BioImmersion) accompanied away from food with a bunch of Wobenzyme. I did garlic etc. for a solid one to two years and it took me a total of five years to be well. Other blood thinners/enzymes/biofilm busters were not available/known at that time.
I had suffered from major left side motor dysfunction and ugly bells palsy and was in very sad shape. My husband washed and dressed me and carried me when I was in too much pain. I have not had a pain I would worry about in many years now.
I had done an extensive Arise and Shine parasite/ colon cleanup before I was infected, and Dr. K. attributes that to my fairly quick good results with Lyme inspite of my age. I had seven co-infections, all gone.
I continuously did Rechtsregulat when it became available in the early 2000. I still take it when I test energetically for it. Biofilm is a lifelong situation and you will need to attack it all the time. CCSVI is the result of these deposits restricting the blood flow to clear the brain and brainstem.
Also Bee Venom Cream (Venex) is a good medium to apply to the affected areas - mainly neck/shoulder area.
Oral heparin, hamamelis, etc. also help get the blood circulation flowing.
Metal Detox - is of major importance. That means for some addressing metal, mucor, food allergies with Allergie Immun, including allergies to sulfhydryl groups, and most likely KPU.
It can be done - if you have the patience. I had a good doctor, but I was the "driver". The blood has to circulate everywhere including the jawbone/mouth. Lung is critical for lungworm/parasites where babesia and bartonella reside.
I have been telling about all of these treatments since 2000 and prior to this.
If you need an effective parasite protocol, please contact me. But read some of my posts and you will find an e-mail address. I do not use PM.
As in war, the enemy hides in the bushes - so do the critters. Rob them of their camouflage! They want to survive - but so do we.
Take care.
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Kudzuslipper
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Curious to hear more Bugg.
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Carol in PA
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Allimax has 180 mg of allicin per capsule. Allimed has 450 mg of allicin per capsule, which is 2.5 times as much.
Allimax at iHerb.com has more than 60 good reviews. Allimax and Allimed are available from vendors at Amazon, with varying prices and some reviews.
Dr. Zhang's allicin apparently is very strong and works well for his Lyme protocol, but you smell strongly of garlic. Biopure allicin is very pure, as per Gigi; I wonder how it would compare to the Allimax.
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Brussels
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Freeze garlic has been used by Dr. K. for ages against lyme and other diseases. I tried so many products, and freeze garlic is THE most potent for me. This stuff kills a lot (while it also cleans, due to sulphur).
I always have an extra bottle in case I find nothing that kills. It is very wide spectrum, killing from viruses, bacteria even some parasites. Amazing stuff. Not all garlic products are the same.
As for lumbrokinase, it is just one enzyme. I also use the multiple enzyme product that I find wonderful, called Rechtsregulat, same as Gigi.
I tried quite some different typse of enzymes, and always go back to Rechtsregulat. So far, it is the best for me (I use it for years).
I'm also on full remission for more than 2 years now. But I don't think only garlic and the best enzymes of the world would have put my lyme disease in remission, even though I do believe they were extremely important parts of the puzzle.
I still keep on Rechts until today, now but I don't need garlic anymore for very long.
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Still looking forward to Bugg's update...
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Cass A
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My LLND, Dr. A, specifically recommended Lumbrokinase as working to clear out the very small blood vessels in the brain. He told me that a very high dose, given quickly enough, could reverse a stroke.
I took it for about 6 months. Then, I switched to a more broad-spectrum set of enzymes to clean out the blood vessels.
Rechts Regulat worked best for me to handle overall hypercoagulation. It completely fixed that within a few weeks! After that, I took just a few drops a day. Now, I don't need it--my blood flow is completely free. I don't know if this product works to clear out the plaque in the blood vessels.
I recently took Dr. K's freeze-dried garlic for parasites. Can't give any specific results from that--I was taking other anti-parasite treatments at the time.
Interesting to hear about them used together! The lumbrokinase would certainly get the garlic where it was needed!
Best,
Cass A
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Brussels
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freeze garlic works for sooo many other infections, not only some parasites. It works wonderful for many viruses too, some bacteria and still it can help your body to clean, as it contains sulphur.
With propolis, it's one of nature's best wide spectrum killer!
rechts is not only used for coagulation, but for about anything that involves enzymatic reactions. Virtually, without enzymes, we wouldn't be alive, as chemical reactions wouldn't work in time. No digestion, no cleansing, no immune system would be working timely without enzymes.
Rechts can be used also as antiviral, to help cicatrization, diminish inflamation, help on burned skin, to help digestion, to solve biofilms in the intestine, etc etc. It is such a wonderful product that I would never stop taking it, as long as they produce it.
I no longer have lyme, but I still 'test' positive for Rechts evey single day. And so do EVERY PERSON I ever tested. I take it as FOOD, not as supplement!
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jackie51
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I tried garlic pills once. Definitely herxed and have been afraid to take it again. The symptom that I couldn't handle was the feeling of a liquid between my brain and skull. It felt like my brain was loose. Very hard to describe.
A few weeks ago, we made some roasted garlic along with our dinner. Woke up feeling dizzy and had some vertigo for a few days.
Garlic can be powerful. For those that are going to try it, ramp up slowly. Adjust for higher doses when nothing is expected of you, maybe on weekends or whatever.
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GiGi
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To answer Carol in Pa, Super-High Potency Allium Sativum Contains 26,800 ppm Aliin - Many times higher than the strongest alternative.
The half-life of allicin (after crushing garlic) is less than 14 days. Most commercial garlic products have no allicin releasing potential left. This distinguishes freeze-dried garlic from all other products. Bear garlic tincture is excellent for use in detox, but less effective as antimicrobial agent.
For more info, look up Bioimmersion.com supplier and Biopureus.com There is no better organic fd garlic. It took years to find the farm, the science to extract it to retain all the best that garlic offers.
Take care.
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Carol in PA
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Thanks Gigi, Allimax has 180 mg of allicin per capsule. Since the numbers are measuring different things, I don't know how to compare the strength, although I don't doubt that the Biopure product is stronger than the Allimax.
I have taken Kyolic freeze dried garlic and Allimax without herxing. Perhaps they weren't strong enough to do much, or maybe I didn't have much bacteria in the bloodstream when I took them. I have not tried the Biopure garlic yet.
I took Biopure cat's claw in the past. I have a bottle of Rechts Regulat in the refrigerator...taking it increased my fatigue and I felt worse, so I guess I was herxing on it.
I'm not taking Lumbrokinase, but I recently increased my daily dose of Wobenzym. I'm convinced that systemic enzymes like these are doing good things by reducing biofilm and hypercoagulation, as I feel better than I did before.
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I guess the answer from Bugg has disappeared from the lyme universe. Oh well, another fooler for the lyme sufferers.
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nonna05
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What is Rechts??????????? Please
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IckyTicky
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It's not just garlic..it is STABILIZED allicen. I have heard a lot of good things about it but I can't afford it.
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canefan17
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Lumbro does a great job of thinning the blood and breaking up biofilm - so taking it with the garlic (or other anti-microbials) can definitely be beneficial.
Another little trick I've learned (I use oils) is to jump in your sauna 20 or 30 minutes after taking your anti-microbials. This really packs as a punch as the sauna opens the capillaries and icnreases blood flow.
You'll get the anti-microbial agets to tough to reach spots. Works like a charm.
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