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Leonardjio
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Good news for those interested in increasing their selenium level in the blood and as a consequence the glutathione peroxidase level.

In a 'nut'shell selenium is important because there are so many functions in the body depending upon this mineral.
Antioxidant defense, fertility, thyroid function, immune response, muscle development, helps fight cancerous cells, protects our bodies from cardiovascular disease and many others.
It helps to fight bacteria and neutralizes neurotoxins. (Important with Lyme)

And it plays an essential role in the construction of glutathione, the body's self manufactured master of anti-oxidants, necessary for health in all its different aspects. It boosts the blood and detoxifies the cells.
Elevated glutathione levels enables the body to produce more white blood cells.

Now research has shown that 2 Brazil nuts are much better in order to increase glutathione peroxidase in humans than a pill with 100 mcg. selenium. (Gracias Lauralyme [Big Grin] )

Interestingly the 2 Brazil nuts were as good as the 100 mcg. pill to increase selenium levels, but much better in increasing glutathione levels.
Although the nuts contained less selenium (only 53 mcg) the consumption raised glutathione levels by 8%, compared to the pill with 100 mcg. selenium raising only 3%.

Conclusion : Half the selenium in the nuts raised glutathione almost 3x times more than the selenium pill.
So in a natural context selenium is 5x times more effective.

Now that is what could be called efficiency.

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The discussion of the link between Lyme disease, selenium and glutathione has already started on this forum here.

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Awesome!! I feel much better now about forcing myself to eat those nasty things! [Smile] (just kidding - they're not that bad).

I wonder if eating MORE Brazil nuts would produce a greater increase of glutathione... This morning I had half a cup full of those nuts.

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Mmmm am i the only one who likes brazil nuts? Granted i usually eat them roasted and salted and mixed with other nuts. One thing to look out for, i know someone posted about brazil nuts having alot of L Argenine, the amino acid which activates the herpes virus...so that scared me away from them a bit but your probably better off eating them with all the selenium and other good things in there.
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I love brazils: what's not to like?
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does it matter whether they're raw or roasted?
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quote:
Originally posted by James1979:
Awesome!! I feel much better now about forcing myself to eat those nasty things! [Smile] (just kidding - they're not that bad).

I wonder if eating MORE Brazil nuts would produce a greater increase of glutathione... This morning I had half a cup full of those nuts.

Hi James, logically 'more would seem better' here, but you can go overboard of course. You don't want to risk an overdose of selenium. The general advice is 2-4 nuts per day, it would be clever to monitor selenium level if you want to go much higher than this.

I put them in a coffeebean grinder and that makes an excellent nutbutter. Easy to digest, much to enjoy. [Smile]

I don't want to shout hurray prematurely, but I am seriously under the impression that my energylevel has improved since starting to eat them.
What a joke it would be if these nuts really would make a difference.

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Thanks for sharing.
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quote:

What a joke it would be if these nuts really would make a difference. [/QB]

That would be nuts [Razz]
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quote:
Originally posted by tickbiter:
One thing to look out for, i know someone posted about brazil nuts having alot of L Argenine, the amino acid which activates the herpes virus...so that scared me away from them a bit but your probably better off eating them with all the selenium and other good things in there.

Yes, I think you are right, with the improved immunity thanks to elevated glutathion, the virus would probably be mastered. Just go slow to start with. [Smile]

Brazil nuts

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quote:
Originally posted by CoronaWithLyme:
quote:

What a joke it would be if these nuts really would make a difference.

That would be nuts [Razz] [/QB]
[lol]
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quote:
Originally posted by ukcarry:
I love brazils: what's not to like?

Good for you, Carry. Have you eaten them often?

[ 09-17-2011, 08:01 AM: Message edited by: Leonardjio ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Mo:
does it matter whether they're raw or roasted?

From what I have read and understood, raw is always better, because the fats can change through heating, becoming less healthy.

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It has been said and confirmed several times and the conclusion is: Chronic illness is accompagnied by low glutathione.

So probably all Lymies are low in glutathione.

Healthy young people are always high on glutathione. (Probably in a double sense...) [Smile]

Does this mean that raising your glutathione will cure also Lyme ?
Is it this simple ? Or is this too simple a reasoning ?

So a couple of Brazil nuts a day will keep the bad bugs at bay ?

Anyone an opinion on this?


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M. Hyman MD:


"In treating chronically ill patients with Functional Medicine for more than 10 years, I have discovered that glutathione deficiency is found in nearly all very ill patients. These include people with chronic fatigue syndrome, heart disease, cancer, chronic infections, autoimmune disease, diabetes, autism, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, arthritis, asthma, kidney problems, liver disease and more.

At first I thought that this was just a coincidental finding, but over the years I have come to realize that our ability to produce and maintain a high level of glutathione is critical to recovery from nearly all chronic illness -- and to preventing disease and maintaining optimal health and performance. The authors of 76,000 medical articles on glutathione have found the same thing!"


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this is interesting. i'm going to try it.
i was also intersted in immunocal as a glutathione precursor.

it's always better to encourage your own body to produce it, rather than direct supplementation.

mo

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Yes Mo, I guess this is especially true for something like glutathione, because it cannot get everywhere you need it even when you bring it into the blood.

More from M. Hyman:
"Glutathione is critical for one simple reason: It recycles antioxidants. You see, dealing with free radicals is like handing off a hot potato. They get passed around from vitamin C to vitamin E to lipoic acid and then finally to glutathione which cools off the free radicals and recycles other antioxidants. After this happens, the body can �reduce� or regenerate another protective glutathione molecule and we are back in business.

However, problems occur when we are overwhelmed with too much oxidative stress or too many toxins. Then the glutathione becomes depleted and we can no longer protect ourselves against free radicals, infections, or cancer and we can�t get rid of toxins.
This leads to further sickness and soon we are in the downward spiral of chronic illness."

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More of Mark Hyman:

"Glutathione is also critical in helping your immune system do its job of fighting infections and preventing cancer. That's why studies show that it can help in the treatment of AIDS.

Glutathione is also the most critical and integral part of your detoxification system. All the toxins stick onto glutathione, which then carries them into the bile and the stool -- and out of your body."

[Smile]

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And some more of Mark Hyman:

"If you are sick or old or are just not in peak shape, you likely have glutathione deficiency.

In fact, the top British medical journal, the Lancet, found the highest glutathione levels in healthy young people, lower levels in healthy elderly, lower still in sick elderly and the lowest of all in the hospitalized elderly.."

[Smile]

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Leonardjio
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Glutathione

It's the most important molecule you need to stay healthy and prevent disease -- . It's the secret to prevent aging, cancer, heart disease, dementia and more, and necessary to treat everything from autism to Alzheimer's disease.

There are more than 89,000 medical articles about it -- but your doctor doesn't know how address the epidemic deficiency of this critical life-giving molecule ...

It's the mother of all antioxidants, the master detoxifier and maestro of the immune system: GLUTATHIONE (pronounced "gloota-thigh-own").

The good news is that your body produces its own glutathione. The bad news is that poor diet, pollution, toxins, medications, stress, trauma, aging, infections and radiation all deplete your glutathione.

This leaves you susceptible to unrestrained cell disintegration from oxidative stress, free radicals, infections and cancer. And your liver gets overloaded and damaged, making it unable to do its job of detoxification.

Anyone had it tested yet?

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thank you for the tip on Brazil nuts.

I also love them!!!

Another hint for glutathione increase is whey!! Take a glass of non sugar whey, organic, goat or cow, and you feel the benefits too!!

Another plant that shows some help for the liver, never to have low glutathione is milk thistle, if my memory is good. I guess making a cocktail with these products will be a good thing during the whole fight against lyme!!

Brazil nuts was a great hint!!! thanks!

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Hey leonardjio,

how is the situation in Holland for treatment of chronic lyme?

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Is Brazil nuts the GIANT nut the size of a man's thumb?? If it is then that's the ones I kept tossing out!! Whenever I buy a bag from the Farmer's market (they have raw too) I always pick out and toss them in the trash b/c I don't like them! I guess I better start eating those then...

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scorpio - yeah, the big ones are the brazils. I think they're the worst-tasting of all the nuts.

Leonardjo - thanks for all of the info! I read it all with interest.

I also took your advice about not eating too many brazils. I didn't realize that it was so easy to get selenism (selenium overdose) just by eating too many nuts! I read about it today in a book.

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From the other thread on selenium: http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/109275


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Originally posted by nonna05:
Lord, so much info...so can you eat Brazil nuts or not and how many??/I just bought a bag of raw B-nuts and popped 4-7 around medicines to coat gut, plus I thought: sick, so might need selenium...could it make you herx or anything?

Herxing unlikely, but whenever Borrelia gets killed toxins are released, so if immune system works well, it is possible to herx.

Take more vitamin C to neutralise biotoxins.
It helps!!!

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