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I disagree with you about your cancer theory. Many other studies have shown that boosting the immune system cures cancer.
For example, in Japan they've done many studies with shiitake extract showing that the extract cures 67% of mice from cancer, and eliminates 97% of tumors. That's just one example.
What have studies done for us? The studies show that only chemo and radiation cure cancer...
Hahahahaha! LOL! Please, someone stop me.
The FDA, Pharma, and their studies have convinced the majority of Americans and the majority of doctors that toxic carcinogens are the cure for cancer. So much for studies.
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James .. The more I hear your theories and ideas, the more I like you
BTW I am married with a child don't get any crazy ideas people lol
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quote:Originally posted by thehause: Where is there a study that shows that vitamin C can cure cancer?
Get yer torches and pitchforks already!!!
I'm digging... I know I read/watched it some where a few years ago... I wish I made a note of it. But I will let you know when I find it again!
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quote:Originally posted by Fuel1212: James .. The more I hear your theories and ideas, the more I like you
BTW I am married with a child don't get any crazy ideas people lol
LOL... you're too cute! I like James too... but I'm also HAPPILY married w/ 2 kids.
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quote:Originally posted by Fuel1212: James .. The more I hear your theories and ideas, the more I like you
BTW I am married with a child don't get any crazy ideas people lol
LOL! Thanks for the laugh. I LOOOOVE laughing!
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James, My husband wants to know what else (supplements and/or meds)you are taking besides the high vitamin C amounts.
Also what brand of C do you use? Without breaking the bank? We spend a lot on C for him. But it helps him feel better, so its a necessary expense!
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Is this one any good?
I'm not doing Salt/c yet b/c I don't know if I can start while on IV meds. But I think I am going to add Vit C and Magnesium to my protocol.
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Scorpio - I like that one. Actually, I just added it to my cart because it looks like a good price!
A big thing for me is to make sure they're caps. Dang, it's so hard to swallow a bunch of tablets.
Also, PERSONALLY (and I know there will be mixed opinions on this), I prefer plain ascorbic acid to the "ester" and other forms. It's true that some of the other forms are less acidic on the tummy (like calcium ascorbate), but the book I read shows that adding a mineral to the mixture ends up removing half of its antioxidant power.
C is so inexpensive, and it has so much potential to be a major healer. Too bad it's so controversial.
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quote:Originally posted by MannaMe: James, �My husband wants to know what else (supplements and/or meds)you are taking besides the high vitamin C amounts.
Also what brand of C do you use? Without breaking the bank? We spend a lot on C for him. But it helps him feel better, so its a necessary expense!
Woah woah woah... what am I, some kind of expert now? Just a few months ago I was thinking I'd be cured of "Lymes" with 2 weeks of abx!
If you want to know everything I'm taking, PM me. It's a long list.�
Here's the stuff I think is most important for everybody (MY PERSONAL NON-PROFESSIONAL OPINION): -Iodine: Iodoral, at least 1 pill a day (13.5 mg) -Antioxidants: selenium, Alpha Lipoic Acid, CoQ10, Ascorbic acid -Systemic and Digestive enzymes, (plus betaine HCl with meals if your stomach acid is low) -Magnesium!!! -Epsom salt baths with hydrogen peroxide and baking soda, a few times a week -Dry skin brushing a few times a week -Coffee enemas, 3-7 times a week -Castor oil liver packs: this is new for me, but I love it. Why not do this? It's very therapeutic, and raises Lymphocyte counts (strengthens immune system).� -Mushroom extracts!!! Especially shiitake. Pricey, but worth it. -Healthy diet.� -Of course the probiotics also -Astragalus!!! Huge benefits.�
A lot of this stuff is extremely inexpensive yet VERY powerful. It's really a shame that a lot of people don't take enough advantage of them. Then they complain about their miseries, but they're missing out on some of the most powerful and easy-to-do therapies.�
The following are not expensive, and can easily be done by most people: Epsom salt baths, coffee enemas, castor oil liver packs, dry skin brushing, safe sex, and healthy diet. ( Just kidding on the "safe sex" thing. Just wanted to make sure you were still awake! )
Granted some of those can take a lot of time and energy, and some people don't have the time or energy to do those. I very much respect that. Some people are so weak that they can't even do an Epsom salt bath.
BUT if you negligently skipping out on anything in my "cheap but powerful" list, and you are feeling horrible and complaining, then at least blame yourself a little and say "I could be doing a little more to improve my health."
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James,
I thought tablets are easier to swallow than caps??
Well it doesn't matter to me... I can swallow pills all day as long as you don't make me take anything in the liquid form like the Cholestyramine! Eck!!
Now onto Magnesium.
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Scorpio - you really think tablets are easier to swallow than caps? I don't think I've ever heard that before! For me, caps slide down easily, and tablets feel like I'm trying to swallow rocks. Also the tabs frequently get stuck in my throat.
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For my digestive system, caps are easier to break down than tablets.
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James- still not an actual study but it is great if there is some truth to it. Oxidative stress also had negative effects tho.
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I don't have cardiac issues, I don't have hypertension, I just have hypertension when I was on salt/C protocol.
without the excess of salt, my pressure is normal.
I had some similar issues with herxes, sometimes my pressure got higher until I took binders, then again lower.
Now that lyme is gone, I don't have the problem anymore (on and off).
The elevation of blood pressure was the reason why I stopped the protocol.
My parents don't have lyme, they live far from tick land. They do have the issue with sea salt for decades. So it's not my imagination.
In my case, it could be either herxes or salt. But it took me many days to lower it after stopping salt, so I didn't want to risk.
Scott also has been using salt with HUNDREDS of detox supplements, he ALSO had to stop and the reason was hypertension. If my memory is good, dr. K. put him off salt.
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Vit C is wonderful, if you can tolerate high doses of it. My bowel tolerance is very low, I don't remember how much, but was around 2 grams, which is too little.
If would love to have taken more.
Take a look at Jimbob posts, in 2006. He found a source of Vit C, very inexpensive, that was recommended by Buhner, I think on a private email to him. He bought that by pounds and swore by it.
Buhner also thinks Vit C is a big help.
dr. K. thinks it's a big help for CLEANSING. ------ James, add the cheap Vit D3, rubbed iodine (I think in America is called Iodoral)?. Vit D3 offered me good benefits during lyme.
The literature of health benefits of Vit D is amazing. It is a huge help, in case you don't get your daily dose of sun, without any sunscreen.
Now, I still take it in winter and it prevents colds in an AMAZING way.
All lyme patients (if memory is good), according to dr. K. are iodine defficient. I rubbed the stuff on my thigh every night and I did feel a boost in energy from it.
Another thing is missing is chlorella. A complete food as well as detoxifier for heavy metals and die off toxins.
As for shiitake, you can buy the dried version and prepare teas yourself. Or foods. It is possibly not as strong as extract, but it is quite unexpensive.
In Japan and Korea, people eat that almost daily. Or just do a search and prepare an alcoholic tincture with them (if possible). I'm sure it will cost a fraction of the price. Preparing the tincture takes only 1,2 months, it's more waiting than work, very easy to do.
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Brussels - I completely agree on the D3. I guess I didn't include it in my brief list because I thought it was common sense that everyone should take D. Unfortunately, many people are ignorant of that also.
I also agree about the benefits of chlorella, but now with the Fukushima fallout I don't' know if there are any safe sources left. Nobody seems to have any direct answers concerning the safety of Japanese chlorella, and most chlorella is coming from there.
Do you happen to know if Dr. K is an advocate of mega-dosing (orthomolecular) vitamin C? I'm just curious.
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Scorpio - you really think tablets are easier to swallow than caps? I don't think I've ever heard that before! For me, caps slide down easily, and tablets feel like I'm trying to swallow rocks. Also the tabs frequently get stuck in my throat.
I stand corrected! I got them confused! I was thinking capsules but I said tablets! LOL...
Dang it I just ordered 500 tablets of Vit C too when I really want capsules! Bummer!!
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I often heard about intravenous Vit C with him.
C-Samento (14), CGF und Korianderkraut zusammen mit nicht bestrahltem Mucunabohnenpulver (14) k�nnen fast alles andere im Gewebe abl�sen. Intraven�s verabreichtes oder inhaliertes SH-Glutation hilft beim Transport von Neurotoxinen aus der Zelle. DMPS, Kalzium-EDTA und intraven�s verabreichtes Vitamin C transportieren Giftstoffe im extrazellul�ren Raum zu den Ausscheidungsorganen. Alpha-Lipons�ure hilft Schwermetalle, die an Glutation gebunden sind, aus der Leber in der Galle auszuscheiden. Die wichtigste �neue" Substanz, die hilft, Neurotoxine aus der Zelle zu bef�rdern, sind Phospholipde. Wir benutzen seit zwei Jahren mit gro�em Erfolg �Phospholipid Exchange" - eine energetisch aufbereitete Kombination von Soya-Phospholipiden, EDTA, Alpha-Lipons�ure und Magnesium (14).
Short explanation: He uses Vit C IV for transport of toxins from biological toxins or other types of toxins, from intracellular to extracellular (lymph).
-------------------- Against worms: Wir fangen immer an mit einer Wurmkur. Daf�r benutzen wir das von mir bereits in der "Hier und Jetzt" ver�ffentliche Salz und Vitamin C-Protokoll (19), das selbst auch einen unabh�ngigen Effekt gegen die Spirocheten selber hat. Die hohe Salzkonzentration t�tet gro�e Parasiten durch osmotische Dehydr�tation (osmotischer Schock). Hohe Salzeinnahme f�rdert auch die Aktivit�t des Enzyms Elastase, das einen starken Antispirocheteneffekt hat (4). Die Elastase macht L�cher in der Zellwand der Keime und diese dann empfindlich f�r unsere Kr�uterbehandlung und die anderen Behandlungsschritte.
Protokoll: 1,5 g Salz pro 10 kg K�rpergewicht in vier geteilten Dosen pro Tag. Mit jeder Dose gibt man auch 1-4 g Vitamin C. Vitamin C wird so dosiert, dass gerade eben kein Durchfall entsteht. Ich gebe diese Substanzen f�r 3-6 Wochen mit einer anschlie�enden zwei Wochen Pause. Ich habe viele Borrelienpatienten, denen es unter dieser Behandlung super geht, die aber ohne die Behandlung wieder in ihren alten Status zur�ckfallen
He uses Vit C and salt for worms (but not only that, you can read the rest of the article), and the amount is 1 to 4 grams a day of Vit c, to bowel tolerance. He does that during 3-6 weeks with salt, then stop for 2 weeks.
--------------- To put out mycotoxins from the body, he uses IV Vit C again.
Das effektivste Pilzmittel aus der Natur ist der gefriergetrocknete biologisch angebaute Knoblauch (von BioPure/INK). Das effektivste schulmedizinische Mittel ist das Ampho Moronal 250 mg 2 x t�glich f�r 9 Monate. Pilzbelastungen und die daraus resultierenden Mycotoxin-�berlastungen werden h�ufig �bersehen und sind ganz wesentlich bei der Katzinogenese beteiligt. Pilztoxine werden effektiv �ber die Leber ausgeleitet mit intraven�sen Gaben von Glutanion, Alpha-Lipons�ure und Vitamin C. Wir verwenden auch ozoniertes Rhizinus�l, sowohl als Tropfen als auch als Z�pfchen (Para Rizol).
----- So yes, he uses IV Vit C a lot and a bit of oral Vit C for deworming.
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Another article explains he uses Vit C for heavy metal detox, again IV Vit C and points that the IV version is much more efficient than oral.
1.Vitamin C: metals are usually locked into the brain cells, after they have been oxidized (= loose their electron(s) of the outer orbits) by the intracellular enzyme catalase. In this form they are firmly bound to proteins or peptides. Vitamin C delivers free electrons to the intracellular environment. Metal ions become reduced and return to their metallic form. For example mercury returns from it's Hg + or Hg ++ back to Hg0. In this form mercury becomes a gas at body temperature and crosses cell membranes and tissues with no problem. It can therefore leave the cell and get in contact with extracellular proteins, where it loses its electrons again. From here it is easier for the body to eliminate Hg by using the sulphhydryl-group containing aminoacids, peptides or proteins (such as glutathion or cysteine) or by using porphyrin-compounds. Hg can be exchanged in the mucous membrane of the gut into vegetable fiber residues inside the fecal matter etc. Intravenous Vit C is far superior to oral Vit.C in accomplishing this task.
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What is the most gentle type of vit c on the gi tract?
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Ester C with bioflavinoids. I get the powder by American Health and buy it at Vitacost.
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Ester C with bioflavinoids. I get the powder by American Health and buy it at Vitacost.
Gael
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I've heard vitamin C should have bioflavinoids in order for your body to use the C better.
Anyone know if this is correct?
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Lipo-Spheric C is most easily used by the body that rocks the pawty.
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