Topic: Why avoiding medical doctors in some cases?
Brussels
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You in the US, have no FREEDOM to choose which treatment your child deserves, in case of cancer!!
You get persecuted as a criminal if you don't agree with conventional methods!!!
Do you agree with chemiotherapy and radiation for cancer treatment for children?
If you don't, read this article why you SHOULDN'T take your child to get a normal cancer diagnosis in a hospital or under conventional madical care for cancer!
I wonder where is the freedom that Americans always talk about.
People have been battling for a recognition of chronic lyme disease for decades, right?
I wonder, if that happens, if a standardized treatment won't be placed and fixed as being the only right treatment to follow, and then people will lose their freedom to treat as they wish!!!
Specially for kids. If that happens, I guess it would be better that chronic lyme remains not recognized (?!!!).
I could treat my daughter in Switzerland as I wished, from a bad knee infection. I took her home, pulled her out of antibiotics, against medical advice, and they did nothing to me except looking bad and telling me I was ruining her health.
By the way, she got healed from it with home treatment!
I wonder what I would do if someone forced me to do a treatment I didn't agree on, with my daughter.
It is terrible what is happening around us. I hope Europe doesn't copy the US for that. But I only guess it's a matter of time...
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"The horror to us was that in the United States of America, land of the free, home of the brave, you have no legal right as a parent to select the doctors or the treatment for your child," Navarro says.
------------ Did You Know: As a Parent, You Don't have the Right to Choose Treatment for Your Child?
Chemotherapy is a cytotoxic poison, and radiation is devastating to the human body, particularly to young children who are still developing.
Jim's wife, a military combat medic, began doing research in an effort to find some other alternative that would keep their son alive. Jim soon delved into research as well.
He learned of Dr. Burzynski while scouring chat rooms and forums on the internet.
"My focus was on the fact that they said there are no known survivors [of medulloblastoma]," he says. "The first thing I Googled was 'survivors of medulloblastoma.'
As I found these chat rooms, the common denominator was always a mention of a Dr. Burzynski...
I called, and the very first thing they told me was, "I'm sorry but you can't bring your son here."
I was like, "What?" They said, "You don't understand. The FDA won't allow us to treat him. According to the protocols, he has to first go through radiation and chemo and fail, and have recurrent tumors. Until then, he can't qualify."
It took 18 months of legal wrangling with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to get Thomas approved for treatment by Dr. Burzynski.
By then he had already had his second brain surgery, and had already been forced to undergo chemotherapy, and had already suffered recurring tumors�likely induced by the chemotherapy itself.
After all that, he finally fulfilled all the requirements to be allowed to try Dr. Burzynski's treatment�a treatment, which by the way, has a success rate that far surpasses chemo and radiation...
"What people don't know is once he began the antineoplaston therapy with Burzynski, before dying, it not only extended his life another seven months but he also had a 33 percent reduction of tumors," Navarro says.
"A father's hope is, had he not been polluted and poisoned with chemotherapy, had we not been stopped, there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he would be alive today."
-------- The damage from the chemo was too great, and he lost his battle with cancer at the tender age of six. His death certificate states the cause of death as:
Respiratory failure due to chronic toxicity of chemotherapy.
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Thanks for the info, Brussels.
Here's another revealing story: "State-sponsored medical terrorism: Texas authorities arrest parents, kidnap their teenage daughter, and force her through chemotherapy against her will" from 2006 http://www.naturalnews.com/016387.html
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I don't know. I know someone who is refusing chemo for their child and is seeing Dr. Burzynski. That's a choice.
Of course.. insurance will not pay for any of it!!
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Lymetoo - the FDA usually only allows someone to see Dr. B if they have already undergone conventional treatment (i.e. organized poisoning), or if they have a form of cancer which is untreatable. Most of Dr. B's patients have already been sent home to die, so that's why they're allowed that final chance.
This makes each one of his cures even more amazing, because most of these people not only had late-stage cancer, but most of them were already poisoned and burned by chemo and radiation.
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that is what the article said. His son died because of chemo, as he was only ALLOWED to see dr. B AFTER CHEMO FAILED.
Before chemo, the boy didn't qualify.
He died from chemo, when he was finally accepted to go to dr. B!!
No freedom. People go to jail.
If I suspect my daughter had cancer, I would travel to Mexico to get her tested. Or Canada, or anywhere else, but NOT in the USA!!
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quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo: I don't know. I know someone who is refusing chemo for their child and is seeing Dr. Burzynski. That's a choice.
Of course.. insurance will not pay for any of it!!
Lyme Too,
That's all fine and dandy as long as the child lives. If that child dies... then watch out!
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Well, Dr. B has a much higher cure rate than the FDA-approved methods. Plus his method doesn't kill the patient nor poison them.
I agree that chemo can be very helpful for a few forms of cancer (like Leukemia), but most of the time it's just poisoning.
86 oncologists were surveyed, and 91% of them said that they would never accept chemotherapy for themselves or for their relatives if they get cancer.
There are a lot of quotes out their from oncologists themselves that show that they don't believe in what they're doing.
One famous oncologist took his mother to Germany for alternative treatments.
One oncologist was interviewed and he was asked: "Would you ever allow chemotherapy to be done on yourself if you get cancer?" And he replied: "Of course not! Chemotherapy is usually worse than the cancer itself." Then he was asked: "Then why do you give it to your patients?" He replied: "Well, I have no choice. If I didn't tell my patients to do chemotherapy, they would kick me out of the hospital."
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My husband and I were just talking about this article. Unfortunately, this is not an isolated case in this country. I love this country, but if something like this happened to my family, or if they tried to force vaccinate or otherwise medicate us, we would have 2 choices: utilize our right to bear arms, or leave the country.
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James1979
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jlp - bravo. We need more people like you.
The sad thing, I think, is that the way they display it on the public media, they make the parents look bad, and chemotherapy look good. Then the sheeple sit around and discuss how disgusting it is that the parents are so negligent and harmful.
Well, I never watch the news, but that's what I THINK is going on. Can anyone tell me if that's an accurate assessment?
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My husband has a bumper sticker that says "we the sheeple", so yes, that's pretty much our take on it.
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I was really wondering, in case chronic lyme disease gets to mainstream, and a single protocol is created. Then forced on people.
Isn't it then better to remain in the dark like it is today?
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James, watch RT TV or get it through the internet.
Russian TV, but in English. They have a different take on most subjects. Like a fresh look!
I only don't like some of their Russian-related topics, as like in the West, there's little autocritic. But for the rest, I enjoy watching RT!
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world link tv is a great station, with news and documentaries from around the world.
parents are getting cps called on them for many things considered unconventional, such as no vaccinations, and yes, for using alternative medicine.
being under the care of a general pediatrician can be scary business, yet if you do NOT have one, you can be harassed for that as well.
one safer way is to seek out an ND or homeopath who is also an MD. you're safer in that setting and can still get clinical work done, and bonified treatment (homeopathy). or keep the GP for mimimal needs, but they WILL harass you for not vaccinating. plus, as the child gets older, they can get confused by differing medical views.. (ie tylenol for fever, ect.) ugh.
cancer cure rates are not even at 50% and this **** poor rate as well as the standard of care (chemo) has not changed since the treatment began (in the 1950's). no improvement in cure rate over half a century.
because of this, i see no benefit in getting a cancer diagnosis though say a major medical institution.
same for tbd's, autism, siezure disorders, intestinal infections...
it's a mad world.
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What I find most annoying is that these conventional "doctors" are just quacks who have no knowledge about the human body or how to make it healthy... yet they consider the REAL doctors to be "quacks".
I swear most of us here know WAY MORE than over 90% of the MD's out there. Yet the MDs think they're smart because they went to medical school (i.e. "Pharmaceutical School").
I wonder if any of them ever wake up and say: "Wait a minute... I just realized that I'm a slave to the FDA, the insurance companies, and Big Pharma. I'm not allowed to think or act on my own, and everything I say or do is being monitored and regulated."
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LOL... that's eyeopening:
I wonder if any of them ever wake up and say: "Wait a minute... I just realized that I'm a slave to the FDA, the insurance companies, and Big Pharma. I'm not allowed to think or act on my own, and everything I say or do is being monitored and regulated."
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I love "PHARMACEUTIC SCHOOL"!!!!
That is EXACTLY where they go to study. It has nothing to do with medicine, it's pharma school!!!!
Know that most people who work on developing vaccines NEVER ALLOW their family members to be vaccinated. Even people that SELLS vaccinations don't usually vaccinate their loved ones!!!
Same story as some oncologists not performing chemo and radio on their family members.
That is what convinces me of the importance of learning energetic tests. Tell me whatever you believe, but I trust more energetic tests to find out cancer or any microbe, parasite, heavy metal than any blood or physical test.
----------- As for NDs, and alternative practioners, unfortunately, here in Europe, when they find out something infectious, they need to give their patients away to conventional doctors. It's the same for cancer.
If someone discovers they knew or suspected of cancer OR infectiouos disease (except for lyme, as most patients come to NDs after being fired by normal doctors), they LOSE their license!!! I'm reading the legislation here in Germany, it is bad!!
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Dr. K also has problems with the German system and prefers to treat here while he can, even though he is called a quack by many too. His protocols have helped me and all the people here on lymenet who do the natural things. Am hoping to listen to him for free on the call next week to learn what I can as I cannot afford to travel to Seattle.
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I wonder if any of them ever wake up and say: "Wait a minute... I just realized that I'm a slave to the FDA, the insurance companies, and Big Pharma. I'm not allowed to think or act on my own, and everything I say or do is being monitored and regulated."
James, I've never talked to any MDs about this, but my husband is a chiropractor and this is a constant struggle for him. Everyday he wonders how long he can maintain his integrity and still practice. He very often feels exactly like a slave. Even if he were to accept only cash (no insurance), he still has to play the game. Medicare laws are federal laws that can send him to jail for something as simple as a mistake in record keeping. Sounds simple until you try to wade thru their rules and make sense of exactly how they expect records to be kept. There are guidelines that prevent him from offering free care to people in need. It's disgusting. I could go on.
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I think that we are living in a time when wealth trumps helping another person. This is happening in every country.
From our right to use natural healing, to our right to receive certain treatments from doctors. All of these things are trying to be controlled by the rich owners and CEOs of corporations who are alligning themselves more and more with governments around the world.
It is a challenge that we all have to work together to change. Europe, USA, all countries. Our lives are spiritual. Greed destroys.
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Brussels - are the doctors in Europe just as bad as the US doctors?
jlp - thanks for sharing the info about your husband. It helps a lot to hear examples "from the inside".
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� think in Europe, things vary from country to country. In general, there's more freedom, but it's all changing to be the same.
In Germany there are MUCH more alternative treatments around, but i wonder until when.
Most doctors are ducks though, if they are stuck to pharma school!!!
I know a practioner from Norway, she has trouble to get her practice going on too. Always needing new diplomas, certificates, authorization.
In Norway and in Switzerland, the pharma lobby is amazing. But it is everywhere, in Belgium, FRance and Germany too.
We're being forced to abandon the use of ANY alternative care, the constant persecution of homeopathy and alternative therapies is here to stay, for many years now. They are succeeding in taking off all supplements from the market.
Soon, they are going to control food. It is clear to me. They succeeded on herbs, with homeopathy, next comes food. It comes a bit later here, sometimes, but it is a general trend in the WEstern world.
It hasn't totally come to Asia though, but I guess it's a matter of time. I only have hopes that China resists more, as well as Eastern Europe (they try to resist more). But what doesn't money buy?
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I recently treated invasive breast cancer with herbs and diet (after a lumpectomy, which actually spread the cancer!) and believe it is gone. I did a lot of reading about chemo and radiation before I chose the natural route.
I have thought about this recently - if I ever had an inkling my child had cancer I would first test through electrodermal screening to see if it is there. I would not go to a mainstream doctor because I would be forced to poison my child with chemo if they found it. I would first treat naturally as I did for myself. I got rid of the cancer in 3 months.
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Fabulous tick battler! Love that!
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Tick battler, that is very inspiring!
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Tick battler!�I'm so happy to see your breast cancer looks to be gone!!!!
Congratulations!�
I totally agree with you, if a kid would be suspected of cancer, I would FIRST do electrodermal screen test or even muscle tests with a skillful practioner.
And if in doubt, I would LEAVE the country to get the labs OUT. No way to risk being caught in the nightmare of having to hide from the judicial system, and having your kid TAKEN AWAY from you!!!
It's outraging! I read a story of a mother who saved her kid from cancer with alternative care. When she came back home with her HEALTHY child, her child was taken away from her.
She lost her child! Even though her kid was CURED from cancer, she had ALL LABS to show when she returned home. She was judicially charged, denounced by the school principal (when her child returned to school) and lost her boy!!!!
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And this HORRIBLE story of a mom, who cured her boy of cancer, got to jail, lost custody of her child.
Then the child was being forced to STILL do chemo and surgery (I think they didn't succeed to do that), but they still FORCED vaccination on the sick boy!!!
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