Not sure what to do since testing is not reliable and only really shows that one has been exposed--
And since the antibodies may be there forever (or at least a very long time), how do we know if he isn't already in remission? (Remission/cure = symptom free.)
He has absolutely no symptoms so my understanding is that he cannot be diagnosed clinically nor treated until abatement of symptoms, since there are none--
However, if I don't treat, are the bacteria spreading within his body, only to come out at a later time leaving him in a horrible state of advanced disease?
And if I do treat, I worry that I risk stirring things up and causing more harm than good--he is completely "healthy" and functioning 100+%--he is a very busy and active teenager, getting ready for college etc. He will be studying astrophysics with a minor in Japanese, so he will need ALL his mental functioning and capacity.
(I have to tell him the test results this afternoon when he gets back from his classes. I'm concerned as to how he is going to take the news because he will probably now worry so much and then cause himself to get ill--he has witnessed his sister being so ill over the past 3 years with this horrid illness that he will think this is a sword hanging over his head.--ugh! I will obviously remind him of how strong his system is already and that he is symptom free, but I know he will be frightened to hear this.)
Right now, I'm leaning toward just continuing to keep his immune system strong so that it will continue to fight off any chance of the illness taking hold. I just hope that is enough. I truly don't want him to also have to go through what my dd is going through.
We meet with the LLMD this week to discuss our options, but I wanted to hear what others think they would do......
Thanks!
(ps. For those wondering why we would even test if he didn't have symptoms, it is because he and his sibling (who does have Lyme) spent many, many years hiking and playing in the same woods and fields, so we tested in hopes to eliminate any need to worry in regard to his health--didn't get the results we had hoped for--sigh! On the plus side, at least we know what to look for now if symptoms ever do emerge--trying to stay positive!)
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I think I wouldn't treat if I didn't have symptoms. You wouldn't know when to stop treatment. Also, maybe he already had a very mild case of lyme at some time in his life and he got over it.
I would just try and live a healthy life and be on the lookout for symptoms. He may never get sick. I think not everyone that gets bitten by an infected tick gets sick.
Of course I would first listen to what the LLMD has to say about it all.
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Most LLMD's won't treat if there are no symptoms...even with a positive blood test.
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If it were me, I would give the immune system major support and definitely not treat with abx. The abx would tear down a healthy immune system.
Dr. K says that the symptoms don't come from the actual infection but come from the broken down immune system.
A few important nutrients: Iodine Vit C Astralagus Probiotics/Enzymes Vit B's
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I definitely would not treat. It would only bring down his immune system.
The focus should just be on keeping him healthy, building his immune system and detoxing. A simple good thing to take would be chlorella. It's a super food, high in nutrients, but its also a binder so it will shuttle out the bad stuff.
Don't worry.... he's healthy. And try not to alarm him. It's good for him to KNOW and BELIEVE he's healthy. Not everyone is brought down by this disease. He's one of the lucky ones!
Best to you.
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Did your son take a CD57 test by any chance? Not that it is an entirely reliable test but just curious to see.. if it is really low then you should really focus on immune support.
He is very lucky though!
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Hi, my LLMD will NOT treat w/out symptoms even w/ a positive test. But she will do immune-support though...
I personally wouldn't either... not all people who have Lyme become sick. We know someone w/ a CDC positive and has no symptoms. He's retired and traveling all over the world like a young kid. His daughter-in-law (my friend) and two grandbabies (5 and 3) are very sick w/ Lyme and have negative tests! They were all bitten around the same time at the same place they went on vacation 7 years ago. I don't understand why he's asymptomatic! But clearly he's fine! I doubt I can globe trotting right now!
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Curious if your son tested positive on IgM or IgG?
My understanding is that IgG indicates past exposure, and IgM indicates current infection, although with lyme that can be longer-term than usually seen with other infections.
Please let us know what the LLMD says, and Good Luck!!!
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Thank you all so much for posting. Your comments pretty much mirror my thoughts on how to proceed, so I feel some relief........Hopefully all will go well with the LLMD visit and son will feel relieved as well.
I'll post more after the LLMD visit just so you know what we end up deciding to do!
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I would only use imunomodulator herbs and products. Just to keep the infection low profile, but NEVER I would give my kid ABX if he had no symptom, and destroy his best immunological defense, his GI tract.
I would certainly try some homeopathic nosode dilutions (let's say, Borrelia D60, D100, D200, K30, K60, K200), slowly, because if he has symptomatic lyme he'll clear these symptoms (even if they are small, like minor gastrointestinal problems, anxiety, insomnia, lack of appetite, lack of concentration, etc. ).
If he has no symptoms from borrelia, the nosodes would do nothing to worsen the problem, so there's NOTHING to lose, in my opinion. I've been using homeopathy for decades, so it's really not something to fear. Go to deseret biologicals and buy these nosodes, they don't cost much.
I would clean his body as much as possible (heavy metal herbs and natural products) to avoid future infectious diseases, and keep a healthy diet and life stlye as the infection can show up with bad diet, bad sleeping habits, emotional shock or another medical condition (another infection, or big allergic reaction can start lyme).
I would NEVER vaccinate the kid anymore, as too many people crash with vaccines. Previous to vaccinations, they had no symptoms or minor symptoms but after vaccination their nightmare starts and many don't see the end for years, if ever.
That is what I would do if it were my kid.
Good luck!!
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AMomWithHope, my LLMD doesn't even test if there are no symptoms. That is what we're looking for in remission. He's been exposed. That's all you know .... and you knew that already since he plays in the same woods as your daughter.
Yes, you can treat with the PE1 with no symptoms. I treat with my Bionic once in a while using blood, just so my body can go after any pathogens I might not know about ... like when my kids start school. I also treated with blood when I did a mold detox protocol recently.
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I also agree with Six. you can treat with homeopathics withoug symptoms. the worse that can happen is that he doesn't react and they don't work.
but if he has any minor symptom that you don't know (like not eating well enough, lack of concentration... etc) you can still see improvement�
I would start with the 10 lowest nosodes used by dr. W., treat about 3 times maximun, then if no reaction, increase slowly on the K or C potencies. Or you can experiment without photons, but the reaction is usually minor (when ingested).
Uusally, but not always.
These are NOT drugs, they are water imprints of the pathogen, so there's absolutely no danger in my opinion. I would do that WITHOUT doubt, as I don't want to see my kid suffering from this disease in the future.
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