seekhelp
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I did a search and read what's on the forum. I'd just like to know who where did this testing and realized positive results from the assigned homeopathic remedy and other suggestions outputted.
I don't care about written 'testimonials' on sites. I want to hear it here. Thanks everyone!
I did the testing today and it indicated I have no bacterial infections, no parasites. Hmmmm...came up with a lot of other stuff that was spot on based on previous lab / diagnostic testing. Made me wonder if I'm barking up a tree I shouldn't be or if this is 'hocus pocus' as much it. Posts: 7545 | From The 5th Dimension - The Twilight Zone | Registered: Mar 2008
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scorpiogirl
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I had this test done twice. The first time I was very sick and had peripheral neuropathy and brain lesions. We were told the brain lesions were most likely tumors and I would die in 6-9 months. That was March 2010.
My girlfriend who is battling pancreatic/colon cancer encouraged me to call her Naturopath and do this test. I know nothing about it. The test came back showing Lyme and allergies and inflammation as my major problems. I didn't think anything of it. Went to see my Chiro who ran the Elisa test and that came back inconclusive. She told me to go find a Lyme specialist.
A month after that I was diagnosed w/ Lyme and Bart through Igenex. I did oral meds for 12 months but did not improve. So in btw Doctors I called the Naturopath Dr up again and still I did not tell him I have Lyme. He did another Asyra testing and AGAIN Lyme came up. At the time I was having a new symptom teeth/gum pain which no one except my hubby knew about. So when he told me that over the phone I almost fell off the sofa! So for me it has been spot on TWICE!
My girlfriend who is now 10 years out from her initial diagnosis... has this test done monthly to help them decide what supplements she needs. I don't understand how it works but in our cases it's just as accurate if not more.
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jackie51
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I did an Asyra test in 2009. I had a hard time believing in the hocus pocus of it all. BUT, if I look back at it, it is spot on.
I've also had bio-energetic testing done recently. It was spot on too. Also, my kids did this too and it matched the labs. So no surprises there, thankfully.
It seems to work. You do have to believe it will because otherwise you block meridians (or something to that effect). It does depend on the practitioner. PM me if you want and I'll tell you who I used.
Be forewarned though, it does not do a good job of finding all bartonella, or so I've been told.
I considered the cost of the testing a drop in the bucket. Takes less time than the amount of time I sat and waited for my blood to be drawn yesterday.
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sammy
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Seek, I too was skeptical. I still have a hard time understanding how the Asyra testing works and can be so accurate.
When I tried it the first time, I had nothing to lose, I was so sick and no one knew how to help me. I started seeing a Naturopath that used this form of testing to help with diagnosis and treatment plans.
I tested positive for Lyme disease, Mycoplasma, CPN, Babesia, Bartonella, CMV, multiple parasites (picked up from foreign volunteer work), adrenal insufficiency, and hypothyroidism. All of these things were later confirmed by blood work.
It also showed sensitivity to mold and other allergens, GI inflammation, etc... things that I had observed. I was stunned at how thorough the testing was. It also helped my doctor to chose what treatments would be best for me at that time.
Unfortunately the supplements were not strong enough, Lyme and coinfections grew stronger, and I kept getting sicker. My ND eventually forced me to see an LLMD (said she couldn't help me enough, that I needed more powerful antibiotic treatments).
I'm so grateful for the help that my ND has given me over the years. If she hadn't found Lyme and Co's and directed me to my LLMD then I'm pretty sure that I'd be dead by now (not exaggerating).
So that's my long way of saying, I do believe that Asyra testing can be helpful and accurate. It is equally important to have a knowledgable practitioner who interpret the results and properly treat you.
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How much does it cost to do Asyra testing?
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scorpiogirl
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James,
My testing is included in my one hour phone consult and that's $50. I live out of state so I send my hair samples. Then he calls me w/ the results. It was so cheap and I was desperate for some answers. Little did I know how accurate it was! I'm still very impressed and would love to go back to seeing him once I feel a little better.
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James1979
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That's surprisingly cheap. I'll have to look into that one some more.
Is it necessary to have a doctor in order to order the tests?
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Scorpio - thanks a ton for the info.
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quote:Originally posted by James1979: Scorpio - thanks a ton for the info.
I got your back brother!
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seekhelp
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Thanks everyone. I had somewhat surprising results. The machine said no TBIs, no parasites. It said my real issue is severe gallbladder mal-functioning, bad intestinal system, and fried adrenals. Also, very low testosterone.
Well, my total and free T via blood testing is miserably low. Adrenals on saliva test were pretty low before (OK on blood tests). HIDA scan showed gallbladder ejection fraction was 15% only 2x, and upper GI showed severe Eosinophilic Esophagitis (bad stomach inflammation).
It also said some sensitivty to EMFs - without a doubt true when you look back on my previous posts about cell/cordless phones and sensitivity. Said my pancreas/digestive system is in bad shape.
The chiropractor said he's done this over 20 years. To sum it up, he said I absolutely do not digest any of my food and my body is STARVING for vitamins/minerals. He said the food just rots in my stomach making me sicker and sicker and unable to obtain what I need nutrient-wise (and I would imagine medication-wise too).
He said all the meds in the world/other treatments will yield nothing if my digestive system is this blown.
i told him my B-12, B-6, B-1 levels via blood were normal. He said they reside in blood, but again my body isn't absorbing them into tissues/organs as needed.
Lastly, he said another problematic area is my heart, which showed significantly weak on the Asyra. My last stress test showed a possible abnormality which my Cardiologist completely blew off. My ID doc recommended cardiac cath and my Cardiologist basically told him to stuff it. He said no way.
Hmmmm.....The question is if this machine output is similar for most people or really individualized. I would've bet the farm a bacterial infection would have appeared!
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scorpiogirl
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I don't have all the same issues you listed.
For example I don't have issues w/ my gallbladder, or pancreas. I do have issues w/ my digestive however. But this was also diagnosed by my PCP and my Acupuncturist. No issues w/ EMS, but issues w/ allergy to foods, chemicals and trees. No problem w/ heart but problems w/ nerve in my mouth. So the only thing we have in common is our stomach issues.
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You know my position on this testing - just read many of my previous posts about electrodermal screening. It has saved my family. It is such an important diagnostic tool.
I plan on purchasing a machine and getting trained in it within the next year. I take my entire family once a month to our practitioner who is 2 hours away from us. I feel it is more accurate than muscle testing and significantly more accurate than blood work, depending on which test is being done.
Our practitioner doesn't have an Asyra but uses an EDS 2000. She can test any supplement or med or food to see if it will help infections, deficiencies, etc..
I would love to get the name and location of this person you went to. He sounds good. My mom is in Michigan and is looking for someone closer to her to see between appointments with my practitioner. I will send you a pm!
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seekhelp
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My chiropractor seemed pretty good, but I do wish he would've tested other products than just the Standard Process ones he sells. He said I needed specific supplements that would've cost me $180 to get the doses I needed. All I wound up getting during the visit was the homeopathic remedy outlined by the machine per Asyra testing.
Scorpiogirl, it's good to hear our tests were completely different.
I'm trying to be objective about energy testing, but the results of these devices every time I have tried them through different docs really have ZERO consistency. First time = major MSG allergy. Second time - something else. This time = completely different. The first two weren't the Asyra. I admit this one seemed most spot on.
The Standard Process supplements they tested that I have tried in the past and did not do well with (never told the chiro I tried them) all consistently tested very poor. I found that intriguing.
That would be awesome to have your own machine if this does work. Realistically, if they were that accurate, we'd all have one. They'd literally be God, right? If it points me in the right direction, I'm all for it. The ideal situation seems to be to have a good friend or family member proficient in testing who only cares about one's well-being not on a financial level. Then, you'd have unlimited time to test the waters.
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Any updates on the experiences with the ASYRA. I have an appointment in the morning to get this done.
I am wondering if anyone is using the homeopathic drops that the machine makes for you & can be used at the same time as antibiotics? Or if anyone has done them with improvement?
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Scorpio girl-your mailbox is full-can you PM me the info? Thanks!
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Problem with SP supplements they work mostly on Blood Type O people. Another issue with the EAV/EDS testing is that results can vary due to peeling layers like an onion, People are like very busy street intersections, this has to be filtered out, some machines use Vega filters that help filter, or the libraries themselves can take care of it, I also like the ART as it also helps to separate out all of this.
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Any updates on the experiences with the ASYRA. I have an appointment in the morning to get this done.
I am wondering if anyone is using the homeopathic drops that the machine makes for you & can be used at the same time as antibiotics? Or if anyone has done them with improvement?
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I have been going to a ND for three months. I didn't have the money to see a LLMD so I thought this would be my next best choice.
I tested positive for lyme(I knew I would.) I have been doing his lyme protocol and I feel better. My brain fog has improved SO much. My family can tell a difference in a big way.
I would highly recommend this way of treating. I also do a different detox remedy every month that is formulated just for me. I am taking my DD at the end of the month.
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Thank you so much. I sent you a PM:)
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Haley
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I use this test a lot. I'm not really sold on the tinctures it creates, but I use the machine to see what comes up as far as bacteria, parasites etc. I also have my products tested. I do use the tinctures at times, but have no idea if they are doing anything.
The first time I had it done, the top hit was some weird bacteria, my doctor confirmed it with a positive blood test. That was probably what made me a believer.
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I don't think the chiropractor will let me use the results to help me interpret my treatment needs.
She wouldn't give me a copy and isn't Lyme literate. I don't know if this will be an issue or not.
Where do you get it done Haley?
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Haley
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I would not go to someone that would not give me a printout. I also tried the Zyto with someone, I told them ahead of the visit that I would want a copy as this guy does not usually give them. He agreed to do it. Funny how money for a visit will change someone's mind.
I think that the reason people do not like to give the printout is it might send you into a panic when you see how many bacteria are on there.
My practitioner is not necessarily Lyme literate, but she knows about Lyme. she looks at the overall picture not just the bacteria. She's in the San Diego area, she does not do it over the phone. I don't know where you are located.
I should add that the person that did the blood test was an MD, he also had an Asyra, that is why I was able to confirm it with a blood test. The person above is not an MD.
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Drs are not giving printouts of anything like this anymore within good reason. A practitioner who does live blood cell microscopy quit giving printed results and videos of the blood because of Drs getting tossed out of state for treating LD here. EAV /EDS practitioners have been advised by their device manufactureres NOT to do print outs from their devices for this reason.
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Unbelievable... I think we have a right to our medical records. If one wants to be involved in their treatment - I think it's important to be able to look at everything. I understand that doctors are being threatened. Still - it's our body.
I had an Asyra test done remotely with a hair sample. I didn't think it was that good. I think it probably would have been better if I was there in person. I couldn't find any dortors with this machine where I lived at the time.
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