Hambone
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Ok y'all. I'm shaking like a leaf here. I am so freaked out.
I'd been having a LOT of pressure and crawly sensations in my liver area for a few weeks. The past three nights I used my PE-1 on my liver and GI area on a new frequency.
Just now I went potty and took a peek, and oh my lord! Pieces of what look like chunked up liver that feel rubbery. It HAS to be some kind of worm or fluke. I picked out three larger pieces ( that was all I could stomach ) and rinsed them off and stuck them in a jar. They are just like rubber.
I will take pics but I have no idea how to put them on here. Can someone do a quick tutorial?
Right now I feel like things are literally crawling in my liver area. I am freaking out!
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Hambone
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Oh my gosh, is it possible for pieces of the actual liver to fall off and come out?
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No, your liver cannot break up and come out.
Flukes are rubbery, and I have had them exit en masse.
I think you overdid it with your PE-1. (New toy?)
Please take a break. Try a warm water enema to encourage these guys to come out.
I wouldn't do a coffee enema until things calm down. Your gallbladder and bile duct are probably not too happy with you right now.
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Yes, take a break from the PE1. And, don't treat too much at one time. If you're treating borrelia, hold off on treating other things. Take it SLOWLY. Take a break and allow your body to catch up.
The people who had problems with the Bionic are the people who used it too much. Your body needs time to catch up.
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I also thought of pieces of liver - it isn't.
Had that years ago - it is the gut lining - lifelong deposits often from glue like foods - sure has to do with gluten. I tried to cut it with a razor blade and couldn't. I did Arise'n Shine (a colon cleanse) at that time, well before Lyme, and Dr. K. often commented that he felt that saved me from worse Lyme. Pieces will change in shape and size. Some of the picture gallery on Dr. Natura.com looks like it. Some looked like pieces of a bike tire!
Do colonics to move things. Improved absorption after you clear it out!
Take care.
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Hambone
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I didn't use any nosodes. I used a new frequency and only for about 2 minutes ( each night ).
I don't feel any worse. I was just shocked at what I found because I wasn't expecting anything.
I had been doing Castor Oil packs and coffee enemas the week before I started using the photons on my liver. Those things could also be what got these buggars out, I suppose.
There were also some thin white worm looking things but they disintegrated when I tried to fish them out.
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Yuck! But good they are outside and not inside now.
WHat frequency did you use?
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Hambone
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I used frequency B ( pulsed ) for about 2 minutes.
I fished out 3 of them, but there were about 10.
I apologize if anybody is grossed out. I'm not sure how to just post a link to see the pic.
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Hambone
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This makes me want to go punch all those doctors in the face who, for 5 years, told me I was fine and I was just depressed and stressed out. The idiots who only wanted to give me SSRI's and PPI's for stomach pain.
THANK YOU LYMENET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy cow I would've never thought in a million years to treat for this stuff.
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Hambone, I've posted about this myself recently. They come out every so often.
You say, "look like chunked up liver that feel rubbery" and I totally agree.
Only yours look like chunks of nuts and mine look like chunks of cooked mushroom.
I'm just glad they're coming out, whatever they are. I feel noticably better "without them in!"
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yuckaroonies! a little owwee on the way out?
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Hambone
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quote:Originally posted by 17hens:
Only yours look like chunks of nuts and mine look like chunks of cooked mushroom.
In person they look like mushrooms. They don't look quite the same in cell phone pics.
I think I've worked myself into a tizzy. I feel lightheaded now.
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I hate to say it but I don't think infrared light & parasites mix well. Just my experience...
You may want to try some anti-parasite treatments. It takes a long time in some cases. I've been doing this for about 2 years now & I'm still going through it.
There are ones you see & ones you don't. I'm not sure what the things are coming out but I know it's a big shock. We aren't supposed to have parasites here in America - LOL
It could also be gunk inside the colon but it's hard to tell. It's not fun either. Hang in there.
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GiGi is likely right. I used Dr. Natura and had stuff like that. You might give it a try. I felt TONS better with Dr. Natura. TONS better.
I still use it once a year just for maintenance, but it was only that first use that got out that stuff. Go to their website and check it out.
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Hambone
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quote:Originally posted by sparkle7: It could also be gunk inside the colon but it's hard to tell.
The cell phone doesn't do it any justice. The longer skinny one has a mouth! This is way more than just gunk.
I've done Parastroy and Parasite Remedy from Deseret Biologicals before and only saw sesame seed-like eggs from that.
There were also white thread-like thingies in there but they fell apart when I tried to get them. Those are actually what I noticed first and what made me decide to go fishing . Then I saw these huge things and .
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I don't think the herbal anti-parasites are strong enough. I'm trying some of the drugs now. It's a long process. They lay literally millions of eggs. A couple rounds of herbs really aren't enough - IMHO.
Dr. K is saying an herb called mimosa pudica is really good but it's not easy to find. Some of the thread-like things could be threadworms. There are thousands of varieties of parasites. The tests are not accurate. It's all about trial & error.
Some of the stuff that comes out could be mucus & biofilms. It's hard because everyone you tell about this will think you are nuts. You aren't nuts!
I think some really progressive doctors are just beginning to see how serious all of this is. I know what a shock this can be. It was for me... I had no clue!
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Have to go along with the drugs here. Herbs work very well for some but my doctor says the herbal combinations go after so many things at the same time, it can be overwhelming. Also said "it can just kind of torture them and take a very long time."
Same doctor almost always resorts to pharma last, but not in the case of parasites. They get to the point quickly.
After treating biofilm and parasites - a lot of stuff gets released (Gigi's Babushka principle) and you have to be prepared to deal with the metals, fungi, bacteria and viruses that get released.
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If you want to blow it all out in a non-painful way, get some Oxy-Powder. Order online. It disentagrates everything!
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Is the 30 day colonix program enough? I would think maybe not? But wondering if it's safe to do it more than 1 month in a row?
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Ok.....a colon cleanse it is.
Now, how are these colon cleanses ( Oxypowder and Dr. Natura ) different than what they use to prep for a colonoscopy? Because when I did that, I "thought" there was no way there could still be anything left in my colon....but I never saw freaky stuff.
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My neurologist wants me to do a hydrocolonic therapy. It takes about an hour or so..
I'm scared though!!
I never had a colonoscopy done.
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A colonic is different than a colonoscopy. Colon hydro therapy is basically a super duper enema, with the difference being that it cleanses much higher in the colon than the enema can. It's really not too bad, depending on the place you get it done. I've been to two places. One was a doctors office and not much fun. The other was a naturopaths office and felt like a spa. Much nicer. Either will work though.
And btw, the colon gets cleansed higher, but you don't have to insert the tube any higher than with an enema, just an inch or a little more.
Don't know about a colonoscopy.
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Yeah there is a spa that does detox baths, FIR sauna, etc that offers colonics. My friend went there and liked it.
I think I will build up the courage to do a few sessions of those after I do another month of parasite tx.
But maybe will add Dr. Natura colonix to the mix before that too..
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Parasites live in other places outside of the intestinal tract...
Colonics or enemas can help, though.
I think Nanadubo is right just based on my own experience.
What order did you detox based on the "babushka principle"? Just curious to see how people or other doctors are doing it. I think I'm going through that right now. Any advice would be appreciated.
I think EMFs are a big thing, too, in all of this.
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Penguingirl, yes I used the Colonix program. It works great. I did it for however long they recommend. I *thought* it was more than 30 days but I honestly don't remember. I did it as recommended.
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quote:Originally posted by Garbagedump: If you want to blow it all out in a non-painful way, get some Oxy-Powder. Order online. It disentagrates everything!
It's described as an oxygen delivery catalyst to clean the intestines. It would be a great way to flush out the parasites, don't know if it kills them, but they do make Paratrex.
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This oxypowder looks interesting. Did you see parasites coming out?
How long do you need to stay on it?
I hate drugs and only take them when in real big need. I can't find parasites with energetic tests, so no way I will take drugs... I'm willing to try anything else first... -------------
Hambone, if this stuff is going out, something is killing them.
If these are liver flukes or parasites (they test as parasites by the photos, at least in my tests... Anyone else willing to test through photos??), I am thinking about 2 theories:
1- the infrared really killed them, so better you continue on and off. Take binders as when this stuff dies, I don't think the die off mess is clean... Prepare for next infections to show up (bacteria, funghi, candida)
I do feel that if I do enough infrared (pulsed) in my GI area, lots of transformations happen, noticiable during and immediately after the treatment.
For example, I am using for candida at the moment. I hear noises inside, and I can see my bowels are moving. No nosodes.
It can look like bloated at start and at the end, my tummy is like an empty balloon, only in about 30 minutes without doing anything else than pulsed infrared there!! No gas, whatever is happening, I don't know, but I do know that infrared goes very deep and I feel sooo relaxed after.
I know infrared alone DOES kill quite a few things, but I thought, most parasites don't die with infrared. Well, it looks I was wrong. They are then probably like bacteria: some die, some don't die (?).
As for viruses, all 'die', or get weaker with infrared, and I wonder why... At least, so far.
So, go on treating, with or without drugs /herbs...
I would continue with photons though, if I add more cleasers. Try the colon cleanse, liver packs, coffee enemas, clay, possibly fasting once.
I would also test the foot reflex point of the liver and see how it is. If in trouble, you could have inflammation or toxins there, and I would treat with Reflex massage too. Plus adding milk thistle and all the bitter herbs to support the liver.
Even very bitter coffee can help, no sugar.
2- Another possibility is that your borrelia treatment is working, that borrelia load is probably going down so your body's immune system is getting less loaded and it is going after the rest of pathogens and parasites??
Or both 1 and 2?
Anyway, I hope you will get 'lighter' without those critters inside.
I guess most of us do not believe that low immunity can cause not only bacteria, viruses and funghi /candida to proliferate, but also parasites of ALL sizes.
Sparkle is right: they aren't only in the liver or GI tract, they can be in the brain and other places (as part of their reproductive cycle).
Let us know how it goes!!!
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I've been reading about how Castor oil packs drive parasites that have penetrated the intestines and ventured out into the abdominal cavity....back into the intestines because they hate the CO pack. And to be sure to be soaked in antiparasitics to hit them when they sneak back in.
I wonder if the light drives them back into the intestines?
Anyway, what ch'all think about this. I was going to toss my specimens I have in those pics. Wonder what would happen if I used them as a nosode and photooned my GI and liver with that?
Hmmmmmmmmmmm......yay or nay? I'm willing to be a guinea pig.
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When I first started with the LightWorks way back when... I had a really bad die-off or something. I think it may have been parasites. I stopped doing the LightWorks because it was pretty severe & I didn't know what it was.
So - I can't say if the LightWorks was doing a good thing by killing them or what. I've been treating with herbs for maybe 2 years. I felt alot better after 6 months of Parastroy but I stopped for a month or so & everything came back.
I'm also living in a place where there's more EMFs now. I haven't actually measured them but there are huge mondo towers near where I live. I think they relocated the ones from the World Trade Center about a mile or 2 from where I am.
I don't know if infrared light is good or bad. I don't know if a nosode will help from your "stuff" Hambone. I think it's more than just one parasite in most of us. Then, there the release of viruses, fungi, metals.
It's tricky. If you would like to try - go for it but be very careful.
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Hambone, I made my own parasite nosode and used it once without any response. Maybe once is not enough? It would be interesting for someone to energetically test it. But my parasites are exiting in mass w/out nosodes so I'm not worried.
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quote:Originally posted by Hambone: Anyway, what ch'all think about this. I was going to toss my specimens I have in those pics. Wonder what would happen if I used them as a nosode and photooned my GI and liver with that?
Ohh I'd be tempted to try it too. Let us know if you do.
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quote:Originally posted by 17hens: But my parasites are exiting in mass w/out nosodes so I'm not worried.
What are you doing to get them out?
I know the Castor Oil packs I'm doing is playing a part, too. When I did the two on the same day ( photons and CO pack ), I had a touchdown.
I can FEEL the dang things fluttering/crawling/wriggling in my upper right abdomen. It/They were going bananas when I just did a CO pack. They've been very unhappy lately.
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That's what my daughter says when she does castor oil. It might not be parasites but just the liver opening up. Or it might be parasites!
What have I been doing to get them out? I've treated with blood nosode 2xweek for the past few weeks. I really think it's the light that kills them as I'm not doing anything else.
Sometimes I eat some ice cream in the evening to draw them to the gut. Sometimes I follow that with liver detox using the Bionic (2.45, the body's frequency, directly on the liver) and a coffee enema the next day.
They just come spewing out! (How's that for a descriptive word!)
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sixgofykids, sorry didn't read the last part of post before this time frame. Nonna
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To Brussels: The Oxy powder isn't an actual parasite killer, it's a colon cleanse. They make a parasite killer called Paratrex. It would be good to follow up with the oxy powder for 1 week to cleanse everything. Standard cleanse is 1 week.
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