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I have fluid behind my eardrums. Can't take sudaphed or anything like it due to my heart.
Doctor told me to get neo-synephrine nasal spray. Pkg says to only take for 3-4 days. I got "addicted" to Afrin once, so I know WHY that is!
Have had this problem for 2 months... so I think I'd better find some natural things that may also work.
Thanks!
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i can't take any of the sprays. causes irregular heartbeat. in fact, can't take any of the otc sinus stuff.
that salt water nose spray is all i can use.
they have ear drops but they don't work at all.
i hope you can find something.
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- Most typical drying agents can boomerang and cause side effects and a dependence on the product.
I think you already avoid phlegm producing foods (gluten, dairy, corn, soy). I'm also pretty sure you'd used Seagate OLE before so you may have some on hand.
Seagate Olive Leaf extract CAPSULES will clear my ears and nasal passages within 20 minutes. In addition, their nasal SPRAY helps:
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TuTu, I did the ear candles . It's amazing what comes out...and you have someone with you to help,but is so supper easy. It's been used safely for mega-years. Even when the main part of my ears are mostly clear, stuff still came out... NO PAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It just pulls/sucks out slowly and lands on the paper plate you use to protect you and friend.....
I know at least 12 people that do this. If I could just get my friend over , I'd do it once a month.
You can get candles on line or any vitamin cottage /...........Happy waxing, Nonna
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Benadryl???????
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is that safe? I heard it was a Scam.
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Have you ever tried NasalCrom?
Here is a good summary from rxlist.com: "Cromolyn is known as a mast cell stabilizer. It works by preventing the release of certain natural substances (histamine, SRS-A) made by the body that cause allergy symptoms."
It is a nasal spray that you have to take regularly for a couple weeks before you notice the full effects. I struggle with seasonal allergies (fall and spring) and this stuff is a God-send. It helps me most with nasal congestion and stuffy ears.
You are supposed to take it 2-3 times a day starting 1-2weeks before your exposer to allergens/ allergy season. Once things settle down for me I only take it once a day at bedtime and that is enough.
It is really cheap but hard to find. I have to ask my CVS pharmacist to order it for me. Then I don't have to pay for shipping on Amazon
I know it's not natural but I thought you might like to try it because it has really no drug interactions and little side effects. Not systemic drug.
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I truly believe a fungal infection is the ear problem for most . I've been dealing with this for at least 15 years when I first contracted lyme. After taking ABX ,fungal infections take hold. Probably an topical antifungal medication might work. ------------ Here is some information behind my thinking, If you have nasal infection then most likly you have it in your ears also.
"Mayo Clinic researchers ",
"Fungus allergy was thought to be involved in less than ten percent of cases," says Dr. Sherris. "Our studies indicate that, in fact, fungus is likely the cause of nearly all of these problems. And it is not an allergic reaction, but an immune reaction." The researchers studied 210 patients with chronic sinusitis. Using new methods of collecting and testing mucus from the nose, they discovered fungus in 96 percent of the patients' mucus. They identified a total of 40 different kinds of fungi in these patients, with an average of 2.7 kinds per patient.
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Dr.J. OF S.C. 'The sore throat that is not a sore throat' � What is Carotidynia? Frequently our patients describe sore throats as part of their recurring symptom complex. Often, when specifically asked, the patients note that ear pain accompanies the throat pain, but the patients often state that their primary physician can find no reason for their discomfort. In fact, on examination, there is no sign of inflammation of the throat or ear.
The condition 'carotidynia' is little known but is, in fact, common. On careful examination, one can easily detect swelling and pain at the carotid bulb, which is located just lateral to the top of the thyroid cartilage (Adam's Apple) and is the location at which the internal and external carotid arteries separate, or bifurcate.
Our theory is that this is yet another sign of inflammatory neurological disease associated with LBC, since the carotid bulb is known to be a baroreceptor, which means it plays a prominent role in monitoring blood pressure. As such, it is loaded with nerve fibers, some of which mediate pain. Since the fibers at the bulb lie in proximity to the throat and may radiate to the ear area, our patients complain of 'sore throat and earache', when in fact the throat and ear pain arise from an inflamed carotid bulb. The mediation of this pain is most likely from the Nerve of Hering, a branch of the 9th cranial nerve (glossopharyngeal nerve), and/or a branch of the superior cervical sympathetic chain.
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Do the oil pulling - at least you will clear out some of the pathogens not only in the head area, but also throughout the total body. Do it every day, at least 3-4 weeks, using l T of organic coldpressed oil. Do it in the morning before breakfast. You can add a drop or two of Propolis or anti-fungal Rizol oil. Use a papertowel to dispose, not the bathroom sink.
And start treating fungi and detoxing the metal residue from your removed amalgams. Unless you get working on the metal detox, you will suffer from yeast -- as night follows day.
THE BODY MAKES THE YEAST IN DEFENSE, WRAPPING UP THE TOXIC METALS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE KILL US.
I have posted the Dr. Karach Oil Pulling Therapy several times since I have been posting on Lymenet. It is one of the best and least costly therapies you can do.
Take care.
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I have horrendously clogged ears also. They have only gotten worse with TX. Nothing has helped. However, I went to an acupuncturist once last year, and complained of my ear issues. What they did cleared me up to 80 - 90 % good. for about 2 hours. My hearing was good, and my ears were almost completely unclogged and did not need to be cleared. The symptoms slowly crept back, and within a day my ears were shot again. If I had the money I would go for acupuncture every week.
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Do you have allergies by chance? My son has this problem too. For him, part of it is allergies so he is on two nasal sprays plus Zyrtec. I know you said you can't take Sudafed - can you try Zyrtec?
Any we stop dairy whenever he has a cold.
I have also heard that acid reflux can cause fluid to back up into the ear area.
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I thougth i had clogged ears and finally went to the doc after too much pain at the top of the eustachian tube. It turned out that the 7th facial nerve was inflammed big time and that this morphed into Bell's Palsy. I still don't know if this Lyme or Babesia or Bartonella related. I could have sworn that I too had clogged ears.
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Colloidal silver - Sovereign brand from Whole Foods. We just drop some in our ears lay there for a while then let it drain.
It really helps.
Hope you find some relief.
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yes to allergies .. try not to take Zyrtec as it dries me out SO badly
I am dairy free.
All I know is I have fluid behind my eardrums and they hurt. ( dr can see the eardrum and it is now concave, not convex as it should be )
will try the Silver!!! thanks!
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- Chinese Mustard or (Japanese) Wasabi can have some amazing effects.
(Just some personal experience, I've not read this. My mother also used to enjoy the sinus relief after eating Chinese Mustard on an eggroll.)
Just take a tiny bit of either one and I guarantee you'll get some waterworks moving out from the sinuses and that should help relieve pressure in the ears.
CURCUMIN and magnesium can also help decrease inflammation.
Cranial-Sacral therapy might be in order, and they might do best by going inside your mouth, all the way back to the Eustachian tubes and doing some release techniques there, too.
UPLEDGER site has a list of professionals trained in this gentle but deep approach. -
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Hope it helps. Nothing worse than painful ears!
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Randibear,,,real safe and easy....candles
TuTu,,,Baby liquid Benadryl, an asprin,to boost it in a safe way like Augmentin. 4-5 times a day for 3 days,,
A state head nurse gave me that one...
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Maybe hubby will think it's so cool ...he'll want to have you do him. Candle Nonna
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X Clear is good for nasal spray. My old LLMD recommended it for my daughter. I use it some too. Not sure it will do anything for ears though. It's a xylitol product. LLMD recommended lots of those, toothpaste, and sweetener too..
I have ear issues as well and typically just put peroxide in them and after that dries can put coconut oil inside too. My coconut remedies book says to do peroxide and when completely dried out then do coconut oil mixed with oregano oil after. I've never personally tried it with the oregano mixed in, but it is probably worth a try.
Best of luck. Ear problems are one of the worst. Mine never completely go away.
I have some ear candles that I ordered, but I haven't used them yet. I have a friend that's done them before and her and I are going to do them together. She says they are great and really feel good.
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Mayo Clinic Receives Patent for New Treatment of Chronic Sinus Infection May 12, 2003
Mayo Clinic yesterday received broad patent coverage for a new treatment of chronic rhinosinusitis (CRS), commonly called �sinus infection,� a disease that annually affects 32 million adults in the United States and currently has no Food and Drug Administration-approved treatment. Studies at Mayo Clinic have found the cause of CRS � a reaction to certain fungi � and demonstrated that the delivery of antifungal drugs directly into the nose and sinuses is safe and significantly reduces patients? symptoms. Improvements in asthma symptoms were noted in the same patient group. Past medical treatments for chronic sinus infections have been unsuccessful or produced severe side effects.
From Mayo Clinic: Mayo Clinic Receives Patent for New Treatment of Chronic Sinus Infection
More than 32 million adults affected annually by disease
ROCHESTER, Minn. � Mayo Clinic yesterday received broad patent coverage for a new treatment of chronic rhinosinusitis (CRS), commonly called �sinus infection,� a disease that annually affects 32 million adults in the United States and currently has no Food and Drug Administration-approved treatment.
Studies at Mayo Clinic have found the cause of CRS � a reaction to certain fungi � and demonstrated that the delivery of antifungal drugs directly into the nose and sinuses is safe and significantly reduces patients? symptoms. Improvements in asthma symptoms were noted in the same patient group. Past medical treatments for chronic sinus infections have been unsuccessful or produced severe side effects.
�We?ve seen significant improvement in the quality of life for the large majority of patients with chronic sinus infection who were treated with antifungal drugs,� says David Sherris, M.D., a Mayo Clinic ear, nose and throat specialist and one of the project researchers. �Many of them had been miserable for years and were severely hampered at work and in social situations by their illness. Many are pain-free and able to breathe effectively through their noses for the first time in years.�
CRS is one of the most common chronic diseases in the United States. CRS produces nose and sinus problems characterized by nasal airway obstruction, loss of the sense of smell, postnasal drip, nasal congestion, nasal discharge, and head and face pain lasting three months or longer. It notably decreases the quality of patients? lives, impairing physical and social functioning, vitality and general health.
CRS has a significant impact on health care in the United States.
- The prevalence of CRS has increased by more than 50 percent in the past 10 years.
- CRS results in 18.3 million physician visits per year.
- Overall health-care expenditures attributable to CRS in the United States were estimated to be over $5.8 billion in 1996.
- In 2001, 27.9 million prescriptions were issued to treat CRS in the United States.
- Approximately $2 billion is spent annually to treat nasal and sinus disorders.
The road to the patents began with research at Mayo Clinic into the cause of the disease. Jens Ponikau, M.D., Eugene Kern, M.D., and Dr. Sherris, who are Mayo Clinic ear, nose and throat specialists, and Hirohito Kita, M.D., a Mayo Clinic allergic diseases researcher, led a group of investigators who demonstrated the presence of fungi in everyone?s nasal mucus. However, patients diagnosed with CRS have an immunologic response to the fungi causing activated white blood cells (eosinophils) to enter their mucus. The activated eosinophils release a major basic protein � a toxic protein � into the mucus, which attacks and kills the fungi but damages the nose and sinus membranes. The major basic protein also injures the epithelium, which allows bacteria to infect the tissues.
Mayo Clinic?s pioneering medical treatment for CRS is designed to stop antigen release by administering antifungal drugs. Without fungal antigens, the immune reaction does not occur, eosinophils do not enter the nasal mucus, major basic protein is not released and damage to the nasal and sinus linings is eliminated.
Clinical studies first conducted by Mayo Clinic found that this treatment provided greater improvement of symptoms than other treatments that have been used. Past treatments used by physicians include antibiotics and systemic or inhaled steroids, as well as endoscopic sinus surgery.
Mayo Clinic conducted a prospective open-label trial using amphotericin B, an antifungal drug, in 51 randomly selected CRS patients. Treatment with amphotericin B resulted in an improvement of CRS symptoms in 38 of 51, or 75 percent, of the patients. Endoscopically, 18 of 51, or 35 percent, of the patients became disease free; an additional 20 patients, or 39 percent, improved mildly; no effect was seen in 13, or 25 percent, of the patients. Researchers in Switzerland conducted a similar open trial and confirmed Mayo Clinic?s results.
The National Institutes of Health has committed itself to further investigation of the fungal link to chronic sinus infection and the role of antifungal medications in treatment of the disease, as cited on http://www.niaid.nih.gov/director/congress/2002/cj/sigitems.htm.
So far, Mayo Clinic has received broad patent coverage that protects the delivery of antifungal drugs to mucus in the nose and sinuses. The patents are:
- 6,207,703 � Antifungal treatment of asthma � 6,291,500 � Antifungal treatment of colitis � 6,416,955 � Eosinophil degranulating conditions � 6,555,566 � Antifungal treatment of CRS
The issuance of the CRS treatment patent completes Mayo Clinic?s portfolio on antifungal treatment of inflammatory conditions such as CRS, asthma and colitis and may offer pharmaceutical companies an incentive to invest in this technology to make it widely available to patients. The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office also has allowed claims for treatment of asthma and CRS combined; the patent is expected to be forthcoming.
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I've been using candles for 20+ years. Hey maybe thats my prob I fried my brains via ear canal. All joking aside.
I'm sure if you check your health food / natural stores. They may know some one who will help you. Also there has been a few Places that will charge way too much. Such as from $1.00-$4.00. Ea.
Yes you will need some one that knows what they are doing. And you will be shocked as to how much comes out. I only do it once or twice a year.
Also after your first time, use cotton balls If or when ever you go out side. Cuz your ear holes ummm are naked. Hehehe.
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It really pulls the gunk out.....Candles. The directions are basic, but would help to see it done or have someone explain it well. The candle it put through the middle of paper plate. you sit in chair ,turn head to side, like resting on shoulder. Then one end of candle is just placed to ear,not way down in it. I think it's the bigger side,but instructions say or person at store will. Then husband lights the other end. Doesn't have wick ,it just start slowly,rolling down as it burn. It's not a big flame in any way. It's not really a flame ,more smolder.. then as it is heating from the top,plate is still between you and ear and top of candle, the stuff just comes out/up .so everything will be landing on plate. like ashes and stuff from ear .So candle is placed on ear ,plate is a couple inches away from head and husband just keeps top going .could be one match ,or might need to keep it going a couple of times. then when his side is 2 or 3 inches away from plate he just sets it to side ..Main thing is you can keep candle in place with fingers ,so it's straight up and against ear,cause husband won't see that. He keeps it straight on his end and makes sure it keeps going until you're a couple inches away. It goes real slow......OK so I'm not a doc ,but sure know there's a bunch of people doing it. Even some accupuncture places. But then a $3 dollar help turns to a $40 .
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Well, that leaves me out on the candles. I can barely lie on my sides to treat my ears. Tilting my head would be way too painful.
Al.. thanks.. I've been taking Diflucan for a year now.
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I would put some drops of Lugols behind the ear. But only if you tolerate iodine well. Start with one drop.
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I rub oregano oil behind the ears and it works well. There are some auricular lymphs behind the ear.
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My daddy used to fix himself a hot toddy. Solved everything. Not sure of the ingredients.
Sorry you are hurting.
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Have you tried heat? My kids had all sorts of ear infections.
I remember putting a heating pad or hot wash cloth behind the ear or on the outside.
Maybe just will comfort!
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TuTu ,It's not a complete pull to shoulder. You could even rest head on pillow ....You lay on your side when you sleep??//Not flat??? Don't know why I keep thinking this is a safe cheap helpful solution for you to use time to time......I also went to a Chiropractor once that flushed wax out of ears.. No pain to it,,,, I just think candle gets more. Also what about the drops, script with lidocaine and other active stuff to relieve pain and clear front tube.???
I don't know anything except I want you to feel better......Blessing's Nonna
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