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Hello everyone I hope you all are feeling well
I started juicing two days ago.
I noticed I have been getting pretty bad headaches from it which is not normal at all for me.
I did a some quick searching and found that it may be from the blood sugar?
a lot of people say to water it down?
could it be from non organic vegies? most of them have been organic but a few not but I do wash them before juicing.
any thoughts? is it a sugar thing? and I should dilute the juice?
The main juice I have been drinking is a carrot/apple and adding in a green juice as a secondary. I did Asparagus , green pepper and romaine lettuce for the green yesterday.
thanks for any thoughts from juicers
Paul
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I have heard the poisons tend to stick to the fibers and not make it in the juice, so if that is right, your response is not from poisons of non-organics.
The carrot/apple juice could be pretty sweet/sugary, so, if you get headaches from other sweets, that seems like a possible reason anyway.
Another thought, speculation, possibility, would be giving nutrition to cells gives them ability to detox and you are feeling that some.
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It could be a detox issue as you you are putting pure active nutrition in your body.
For my greens I use either Kale or spinach. I would suggest you throw a lemon in with the mix also if you aren't. Small slice of ginger and a stalk of celery is popular also.
Dr Oz gas a good energy drink one can google.
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I would def not juice anything inorganic...never.
The second thing would be sugar, watering it down won't do much, carrots and apples are very sugary. I would stick to veggies low in sugar-- think greens, lettuce, spinach, celery, cucumber, fennel, kale, etc.
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I have been researching them lately and it seems that the juicers that work best for greens are in a much higher price category.
Maybe start out slowly with how much you consume as it very well could be a detox reaction. Or, is there any chance the headaches could be a coincidence? There is so much going around the northeast right now.
My husband and children all just had a virus that involved a bad on/off headache that lasted about a week.
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could be from too much sugar (esp the apple)
did you try a Granny Smith apple? it's a little safer
carrots have a lot of sugar too
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It could be detoxification. Juice is very detoxifying, and I remember from Facebook that you're doing the Gerson therapy, which also would cause detox. When I started eating primarily raw, I got a headache and a detox reaction myself. I blogged about it on my blog listed below.
I think it's normal.
I agree with the comment that you should NEVER juice vegetables that aren't organic. Just like juicing concentrates the nutrients, it will also concentrate the toxins.
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I did Granny Smiths... yea I think it's the sugar... today I did Leavy greens and it seems to be getting better (the headache)
I will do the apples in moderation.... I think I had way too much apple last 2 days
thanks for all the input everyone
the juicer was actually here already not sure what brand it is but it says JuiceMan2 on the side
Paul
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That's the brand, Juiceman
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If you juice things like Beets or Lemons sometimes your liver will spill toxins too fast and you'll feel sick.
There is certainly a blood sugar issue I would assume.
Only sugary things I juice are... green apples carrots beets (just a little bit)
Bartonella and Candida, if issues for you, can flare from anything sugary.
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and do eat the fiber - it is as important if not more so than the juice.
Avoid oxalates from certain foods. Google.
With the number of vitamin pills many take, we don't lack nutrients. We lack the healthy gut that is able to absorb the nutrients. Fiber is very important, also for binding the neurotoxins. Don't throw it out. Mix some juice into the fiber and eat it during the day.
Making sure "organic" is really organic.
These were the comments I got years ago from Dr. K. talking about juicing.
Take care.
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GiGi I'm doing Oatmeal to fill the stomach so I guess the fiber is covered.
Today is much better than yesterday since I layed off the green apples and went with an all green juice...
thinking blood sugar spike may have been the cause we shall see
thank you everyone for your thoughts on this
Paul
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I don't think vitamins are adequate substitutes for good food. Yes, our food is lower in nutrition than it used to be. That's where the whole idea of juicing comes in, so we can concentrate the nutrients. Foods have vitamins, minerals, and nutrients we don't even know about or understand, plus enzymes. Vitamins tend to be isolated compounds that help deficiencies but shouldn't be relied upon for complete nutrition.
I agree that fiber is also necessary, and if you want to get it from the juice pulp, that's as good a place as any. With my old juicer, I used to give the fiber to my birds and they loved it. Now I have a Norwalk and what's left is the consistency of sawdust ... no one wants it.
I juice once or twice a day (sometimes I'm too busy in the afternoon for my second juice) and eat about half my daily intake of food as raw fruits and vegetables. The juice in no way substitutes for my fruit/vegetable intake.
I agree also about the healthy gut.
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I'm surprised your juicing. Dr. Burrascano, in the conference he gave in Toronto last year, said absolutely no fruit juice of any kind. Very bad for lyme disease and it's co-infections.
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That's why most people juice veggies and use granny smith apples, which are low in sugar.
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I remember reading that kale and collard greens have a lot of calcium in them and a lot of the other greens and vegetables have oxylic acid, and when the two are combined, stones (can't remember if kidney or gall) will result. So it's not good to combine those kinds of vegetables on the same day. Maybe someone else knows more about this.
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quote:Originally posted by chaps: I remember reading that kale and collard greens have a lot of calcium in them and a lot of the other greens and vegetables have oxylic acid, and when the two are combined, stones (can't remember if kidney or gall) will result. So it's not good to combine those kinds of vegetables on the same day. Maybe someone else knows more about this.
That's one of those things where I've heard so much I don't know who/what to believe. I have heard that, and also heard that if the food is kept raw, the oxalic acid does not cause that problem.
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That seems to be the pattern with a lot of subject matter surrounding the Lyme complex. There are so many contradictions.
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Dr. B is great but if you follow him to a tee and youre trying to fill a 6ft7 frame, what the heck can ya eat? my LLMD says moderation is key with everything. It's complex because it's not meant to be cured, its a freaking bioweapon people. large guinea pigs if you choose not to fight. Most people here choose to fight, which is why I return, once your central nervous system is commandeered or compromised, the grade gets more steep. God Bless you All!! Lyme Warrior
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Avoid Sugar Alcohol and Stress, thats the simple protocol and of course listen to your LLMD, I dont have a dr. the health clinic idiot had my wife crying and our docs a quack etc. I've almost decked a few docs, so lets start a little yellow post box from now on and call it LYMERAGE, I know my metal heads and hard classic rockers with lyme and a temper ARE out there and were not Satanists.
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