Topic: Looking for Proof that Chlorella Does NOT Bind Medications and Supplements
Dekrator48
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I've read alot of information and I know that Chlorella binds metals.
I keep looking for a statement from a credible source that states that Chlorella does not bind other things like antibiotics, other meds and supplements.
I have been taking Chlorella by itself, away from meds and supps for this reason.
I would prefer to take it before EACH meal, but I have to take meds and supps with my other meals.
I have read posts here that say that Chlorella does not bind meds and supps, but I keep wondering where that information came from?
Can anyone direct me to a credible link that says Chlorella does not bind meds and supps...just metals?
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Interesting question... I haven't seen anything stating that it would absorb or interact with drugs. I think it mostly binds to metals so they can be removed from the body.
It's also supposed to provide RNA & DNA to repair genetic damage. It has alot of chlorophyll which is similar to hemglobin. I'm not exactly sure of the benefits of that but I would imagine it's good for the blood.
I think it's considered to be more of a food than a supplement but I could be wrong. It's kind of a medicinal food... It's supposed to bind to toxins but I don't know if there are any actual studies of how it binds to each thing considered a "toxin".
Heavy metals are different than pesticides, radiation or other toxins. Most of the info about chlorella is on websites promoting it's use - so, it's not all that unbiased.
Maybe check PubMed?
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On page 382 of "The Lyme Disease Solution" it says to take chlorella "as far away from your vitamin C supplements as possible."
So, that sounds like it binds vitamin C.
The author of the book is a lyme doctor, Dr. S.
Supplements can be taken with snacks instead of meals. Many meds can also be taken with snacks.
This same book says to take chlorella 2 to 3 times a day thirty minutes before largest meals.
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I would like to know also!! I have the same problem!
Dr Mercola stated on the Dr Oz show that you should take the chlorella with some food as it may upset your stomach. First I've ever heard that it should be taken with food.
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Dekrator48
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Thanks sparkle and TF for the info!
Lymetoo, Luckily I have not had any stomach upset from chlorella so far.
I will try to take it as often as possible.
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I thought the whole point was to take it with food. I thought it was suppose to interact with your stomach bile, that comes out before you eat and help bind the toxins out of it....
am i confusing it with something else?
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LLMD has instructed me to take it 15 min before food
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Here is the most detailed explanation of binders and how we best get rid of mercury/metals and neurotoxins. Read it carefully. And possibly read it more than once. I have.
Of course, Sparkle, Dr. K. promotes the use of chlorella because he became enlightened many years ago with the metal absorbing idea when he read how the mining industry uses chlorella to get the precious metals our of mining sludge. I started taking chlorella in 1998 when he was my doctor and know that he had discovered the effectiveness of its use for binding metals years before.
Many years ago, group testing was also performed by a certain university in Germany, except the publication of the results was held up and the research rests in some desk drawers somewhere. The reasons are obvious. Pharma is powerful.
We know in the meantime that chlorella binds more than just mercury, but many neurotoxins. But if you don't take them in time, you certainly will feel a herx, because the binder has to be in place as described in this publication by Dr. K. before the toxins come down. If you make an effort to bind well, herxing does not appear as many describe it here.
When I first came to this board in 2000, I could not understand all the talk about herxing, because I certainly had been detoxing for a number of years, but never had what people call a "herx". Since then I have been posting here "take binders", but for many people it goes in one ear and out the other. Believe me, There are better ways to unload the toxins without suffering a great deal.
Chlorella or any other binders are taken 20 minutes BEFORE the main meals and at bedtime. The why's are explained in the article in detail. I have posted this article many over the last 12 years.
Chlorella first, binders first, and then 20 minutes later follows the food. That is how it works the best. Dr. Mercola rarely, if ever, treats a patient -- he has a wonderful website that serves us well.
Take care.
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Dekrator48
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Thanks for that info and link, GiGi. There is lots of great info there.
I read a similar article that I found from searching old posts.
A little over halfway down the article in GiGi's link above it does say to take Chlorella 30 minutes before meals and at bedtime.
I still wish I could find a statement that says it will not bind with antibiotics.
I need to take my doxy with a full meal.
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Thanks for the great article, GiGi. I believe there is some controvercy regarding metal detox among the major authorities about this but I do like Dr. Ks approach.
It is important to get "clean" chlorella these days...
One thing I learned through dowsing is that drugs can stay in the system longer than I would have imagined. If you take the binders too soon - they can absorb drugs, herbs or supplements. I'm not really sure what happens with chlorella. I learned this stuff on my own by paying attention to dowsing - so, it's not an overly scientific study.
I wasn't taking abx, either. I noticed that if you take the binders close to anti-parasite drugs/herbs - it may reduce the effectiveness. It's something to really give alot of thought to. I suppose one may want to work on different problems at different times or in some kind of order or by pulsing or rotation.
I think for sure that binders can alter the effectiveness of drugs & herbs. I wouldn't want to advise anyone on what to do but I have observed through dowsing to give the binding & the killing more time than most doctors prescribe. Just my experience... Each situation is different so you have to use your judgement.
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I also found that for me chlorella definitely binds medicine or supplements taken at the same time. For example, I took it with my morning empty supplements, including thyroid and pregnenolone, and my temp only got up to 95.6 that day, like I had missed my thyroid and adrenal support. I felt really sick. Chlorella is wonderful before meals or colonic/enema. I've heard to take it as much as 45-60 minutes before a meal or teaspoon of oil to release the bile about the time the chlorella reaches that part of the digestive track. I take mine with an enzyme to break it down. I want to find/try some other less expensive binders that don't have the chloraphyl/advantages of chlorella, but I could use more frequently. GiGi's posts are definitely an excellent source of info on the topic.
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When I was taking chlorella my LLMD told me to chew them up because they were more effective that way. When I first began my treatment my LLMD told me to take 20 tabs at a time. They made me sick to my stomach and I even threw-up a few times. Now I realize this was probably due to the fact that I took them on an empty stomach. Maybe I should try taking them again.
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I take it before lunch so I don't take it at the same time as the meds or supplements because I didn't know if it would bind either. I often put it into a drink with spirulina and triphala.
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They are a lower dose, 200mg, and chewable, so you can take many at a time.
Mine are 1,000 mg per tablet, a much higher dose.
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Dekrator48
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Thanks for the input, Jubilee.
I will assume that the chlorella could bind my meds and supps until I find proof otherwise.
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Dekrator48
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nefferdun,
Is your chlorella a powder?
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No, I crush it up in the blender or just swallow them and drink the other stuff.
I was trying to find more info on this yesterday. I found Chlorella increases the good bacteria in your gut, helping with digestion, so it is good to take it with supplements. I don't know about the antibiotics though. Chlorella can take six months to begin to clear metals out of your body.
On the Dr. Oz show he recommends taking chlorella before every meal if you have amalgams. He said when you chew you are releasing mercury vapor and the chlorella will bind with it. He recommends getting composite fillings but not removing the amalgams until they need to be replaced (probably doesn't want to send the ADA into orbit).
DMSA is used for heavy metal chelation and it binds with minerals causing a deficiency if you do not supplement them at a different time. I think this is why we are so confused about chlorella.
It is important to take B12, B6 and Folate for methylation. Eat foods with sulphur like broccoli and collards and omega 3's. Avoid allergy foods like gluten and dairy.
DMSA is supposed to be the most effective chelator for brain mercury (taking 2/3 of it out) as well as the rest of the body. A conservative treatment approach is 100 mg three times a day (on an empty stomach one hour before or two hours after eating) . Do this every other day for five weeks. Repeat if necessary.
Autistic children are given DMSA three times a day (100-250 mg per dose) three days on, four days off (another place says 11 days off).
I think I am going to do the three days of DMSA with a break from abx during that time. Eleven days off. I will try to take the chlorella/spirulina/ triphala more often too. I will replace minerals on the 11 days off.
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This is such a great post, I thought I'd bring it up again. I am currently taking Alina, which happens to give me yeast and turn my urine yellow. However, I noticed that even when I took chlorella 2 or 3 hrs after the alina, my urine wasn't yellow anymore, and the yeast went away. I suspect chlorella is binding more than 2 hrs away from stuff. Sparkle's suggestions above make sense Also, the dowsing or energy testing is a great idea.
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I think dowsing is the best idea, at least for finding out what to do. The pendulum doesn't always tell you "why".
Back some time, I can remember my pendulum telling me to stop taking the green tea extract tablets, and this coincided with when a new abx had been introduced. After I stopped taking that, the pendulum said to take it again. It was later when I heard that some docs think you shouldn't take antioxidants while on abx, because they can reduce their effectiveness.
I like reading Catgirl's and Jubilee's experiences. They give important clues as well.
I do want to caution, though, on the alinia/urine conclusion. The urine is made yellow, I assume, from the massive amount of yellow coloring in the pills. That coloring has aluminum in it. It is called something like "aluminum lake yellow", but I confirmed with the manufacturer that there is actual aluminum in it, of course, they said it was a "small amount". So, while it sounds like chlorella is binding up the coloring, I wouldn't assume it's binding up the whole pill. I see it affected yeast as well, but do you know what about the pill is causing the yeast?
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Catgirl
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Thanks Michael.
I had no idea there was aluminum in alinia (I really don't need another metal in me). I'm not sure why it gives me yeast but suspect it might be because of its antibiotic properties. I can't take abx and alcohol based herbs without getting yeast (Byron White). I can't even take too many alcohol based herbs. As it is I have to evaporate the alcohol out of the BW before I use it. But then, liposmal C gives me yeast too (parasite die off maybe).
Um, my bad, I thought dowsing and pendulum were the same thing. I found this link below, is there something else?
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The link you posted explains it in a way where they are the same thing, using a pendulum to do the dowsing, if you will.
I have noticed, again and again, when treating parasites, it opens up more treatment needed for heavy metals and for candida. I have noticed the same thing, even when treating just bacteria (not parasites) with herbals or other non-abx treatments that do not even have alcohol. Essentially any killing I've seen has required more probiotics or else yeast is a problem, and often I still bring out my heavy artillery, which is Candibactin BR by Metagenics.
I might have thought alinia would've been an exception. I've always remembered it as the one that's cleaned up the mess from the other antiparasitics during the parasite treatment, or the one that's fixed the C-diff when the abx treatment went bad. I'll have to pay attention what happens to me this time, as I'm in the midst of another full moon parasite cleanse, looking like today will be the last day of my pyr/pam and ivermectin, with albenza tomorrow, so still probably a few days away from alinia, and growing curiosity!
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