Topic: Non-Candida yeast, H. Pylori, non D-lactate forming probiotics, acidophilus overgrowt
tickled1
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I got my Metametrix testing back and have some interesting results. Apparently I have a lactobacillus acidophilus overgrowth and the instructions were to avoid D-lactate forming probiotics. So, I guess probiotics aren't as harmless as everyone thinks.
I also have H. Pylori despite numerous negative blood tests in the past which worries me as I believe this has been going on for a very very long time and H. Pylori can lead to cancer. But then again, so can EBV and Myco and I have those too so I guess I can't dwell on that.
The tests also showed I have very high levels of Non-Candida yeast or mold (stool test). Don't know what this means.
And, I have barely any amino acids and I think it said I'm deficient in some B vitamins as well. So in a nutshell I'm a mess. I'm sure it showed other abnormalities but I don't have it in front of me at the moment. Just thought I'd share.
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Razzle
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Mastic gum and myrrh gum are good to get rid of h. pylori.
Low stomach acid may be the cause of low amino acids - proteins require adequate stomach acid for proper digestion. Betain HCl supplementation, as well as digestive enzymes, taken with meals may help.
Oregano, thyme, coconut oil - all are good for killing fungus, mold, yeast.
A yeast-free multivitamin would probably be a good idea, too. Make sure it is yeast-free, though - because many manufacturers use yeast as a source of B-vitamins.
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tickled1
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Thanks so much Razzle!
Intersting about the stomach acid. I read that H. pylori can suppress production of stomach acid yet part of h. pylori treatment is taking an acid reducer. I don't quite understand that.
I'm about to start a Prev-Pac for the H. Pylori. Should I wait to take enzymes and other stuff to heal my stomach until I'm done with Prev-Pac?
Do you know anything about D-lactate free probiotics?
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blinkie
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AS part of my re-buiilding after much tough treatment, I've added back in an amino acid supplement and b complex. I'm sure we are all deficient in most things after this.
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Tickled that is really interesting about the acidophilus. I have had real trouble with taking probiotics, often to the point of having horrific diarrhea from it. Docs would say to stick with it, that it would take time to get better, but it never resolved even after weeks on them. There is only one brand I can take now and it is bifidus primarily. Only one yogurt I can eat that doesn't affect me the same way.
I'd be interested in the non-candida yeast info too. I was told I have Messalezia yeast (probably misspelled that) and that caused my pityriasis versicolor. I am taking Diflucan and nystatin to battle that, along with topical ketoconazole for the rash itself. Getting better slowly.
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Razzle
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quote:Originally posted by tickled1: Thanks so much Razzle!
Intersting about the stomach acid. I read that H. pylori can suppress production of stomach acid yet part of h. pylori treatment is taking an acid reducer. I don't quite understand that.
I'm about to start a Prev-Pac for the H. Pylori. Should I wait to take enzymes and other stuff to heal my stomach until I'm done with Prev-Pac?
Do you know anything about D-lactate free probiotics?
You're welcome.
The reason for the acid reducer when treating h. pylori is if the person has a stomach ulcer, then the stomach acid must remain suppressed until the ulcer is healed sufficiently...otherwise, they'd experience quite a bit of pain once the h. pylori was gone but the ulcer was still trying to heal.
If you don't have a stomach ulcer, then I don't see any need to reduce stomach acid while killing the h. pylori.
If you don't have an ulcer, then there should be no problem taking the enzymes and such before the h. pylori is gone. If you do have an ulcer, then the only enzymes that are safe are non-protein enzymes.
Enzymedica makes an ulcer-safe enzyme blend called Acid Soothe - it primarily contains enzymes for carbohydrates and fats, and these enzymes may help kill the h. pylori also.
According to http://www.customprobiotics.com/autism.htm , the d-lactate (byproduct of fermentation from regular probiotic strains) may aggravate neurological issues, but I don't really know anything about this...
Take care,
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