2roads
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My sons urine has been yellow in a cup, but when poured into the toilet or directly urinating into the pot, it has been clear.
That was never the case for him prior to "the tinctures".
But, since I started a Centrum vit and mineral supp with 100 % daily iron and Vit D, it has returned to a yellow color in the toilet.
What to make of that?
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sammy
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The multivitamin supplement provides B vitamins, that will make his urine look more yellow in the toilet.
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I agree. It is the B vitamins doing that. They stain my husband's underwear yellow.
They really make the urine yellow!
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2roads
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That's interesting. I'm glad the urine is yellow. That's what color it's always been in the past.
I thought it was some good metabolic change.
Thanks-
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quote:Originally posted by TF: I agree. It is the B vitamins doing that. They stain my husband's underwear yellow.
They really make the urine yellow!
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- It's much more concentrated in the cup. The toilet has all that water to dilute it. The color will change from time to time, anyway (especially with B-vitamins).
As you've mentioned here before this same question, and about concentration in the cup first and then pouring it into the toilet, it might be that he's ready to take it over on his own as he's growing up.
Maybe turn it into a a short science lesson about filtration and the kidneys. He's old enough to report any changes - without your even asking.
This will give him more control. Kind of like the weather, basically, he'll just notice if it's cloudy or dark. Then, he'll know that means more water. Or, if yellow, he'll know the B-vitamins are moving on through.
It is sometimes how kids will start to think about the science of the body. And, if he's been fearful of the monitoring because something may be wrong - even with his pee - then being on his own with this will help him relax. -
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2roads
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Thanks Keebler.
I keep forgetting how astute he is.
I need to keep that in mind, and let him report to me if any changes.
I agree, he needs more control. I am trying to give him that as I can. I am not on him if he doesn't want to eat certain things. I try, but then back off saying okay.
I'm only giving him a Centrum chewable vitamin, nothing else. Although he doesn't like that, I feel he needs it. I'm not asking him to take anything else. Hoping that will help his frame of mind as well.
I'm on an antidepressant and something for anxiety myself. Hoping to project a better me. On it for that reason only.
He has a play date over today, and then he goes to someone elses house for a couple of hours.
He is still nervous and anxious.....always fiddling with his hands or has something in them. It's really hard coping.
But, I'm doing my best. I will start a four hour counciling session per day over the next three weeks. One-on-one, group, and self-help tips.
Keebler.......you are really a kind person. I just wanted you to know that.
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Keebler
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- Well, I worried about how to phrase that, so glad it came out okay.
I hope your sessions are very enjoyable and nurturing for you.
Hey, about giving him more control. He's not quite even ten, as you mentioned before so I'm not sure I'd give him all control with food, etc. But if he has two choices, both of which are good, that helps him feel some control.
About the vitamin, I really hate to clobber the chewables but (here I go) they can just ruin teeth.
The gummy stuff gets stuck and, with vitamin C, can corrode the tooth enamel.
Even brushing will not get it all from between the teeth. And, you can't brush for quite some time after Vitamin C makes contact with the teeth as the tooth enamel is softened and needed time after a good rinse to harden back up before brushing or brushing can remove tooth enamel.
As he does not like pills, a powdered vitamin mixed in with a smoothie would be safer for his teeth.
Drinking water after eating or drinking any foods and - in private - a few good swish-and-spits is important for everyone of any age. -
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2roads
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He would take a vitamin in pill form Keebler, but which one?
Since he is young he needs a child's dose, all it seems all of them are gummies or sugar chews.
Welcome any thoughts-
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I too struggle with the multis and my 9 yr old. She won't take pills so we are stuck with chewables or gummies, all gross.
My 13 yr old takes the Pure Encapsulations Nutrient 950, just 4 capsules instead of the adult dose of 6 capsules. I would think a 9 yr old could take two, but they are big capsules.
Centrum is not a great brand of vitamins, too many fillers. I think it's Lil' Vits or something like that is pretty good.
We recently bought coromega fish oil in orange squeezable packets. Maybe $0.19/day. It's an adult dose, but I have my kids on it for inflammation. Figuring we'll never remember every day, the adult dose will work. Supposed to be great for the brain too. My 9 yr old has some residual psychiatric issues from an elevated strep titer and proly lyme too. She likes them. Taste like creamsicles.
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Keebler
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- 2roads,
Jackie's right, so many of the brands contain some harsh additives. Most of the commercial brands are also heat treated and that can negate some of the vitamin availability.
Jackie's suggestions are good.
Your son's LLMD should have a recommendation for you that would work with the sensitivity issues.
I bet that the office manager has several brands she can just share with you by phone.
Remember: after all vitamins, all food, all drinks (besides water) . . . SWISH & SPIT a few times to protect teeth.
When not near a restroom, even without anyone else noticing, gentle "swishes & swallow" can be done. -
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2roads
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Thanks Jackie and Keebler. I will look into it.
I also want to give him fish oil, but my husband says "do nothing". He's afraid it might be bad.
I'm not sure what to do with the fish oil. I have good supplements for that, but am not using.
ugh
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2roads
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Thanks Jackie and Keebler. I will look into it.
I also want to give him fish oil, but my husband says "do nothing". He's afraid it might be bad.
I'm not sure what to do with the fish oil. I have good supplements for that, but am not using.
ugh
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Keebler
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- So, then, your son is currently not under the care of a LLMD? I thought he had two and I assume either/both would coordinate a supplement plan as well.
Rather than you having to figure this out, I hope his LLMD/s can.
Now, if he's taking no supplements, food choices are all that much more important. You should probably eat fish several times a week, WILD SALMON, SARDINES, etc.
Be sure to check the web for safe fish recommendations.
The Lyme Induced Autism group surely has good advice on diet (which I would assume he already follows, but just in case you've not yet contacted them, they are a wealth of information for vitamin brands, too).
Remember that most with lyme, whether child or adult, fall somewhere on the Autism Spectrum due to lyme (usually not after good treatment, though).
Lyme Induced Autism Foundation -
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2roads
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He's under the care of a LLMD and a homeopathic LLMD, but I am not seeking treatment at this point for my son.
Truth is, he needs blood drawn, but I don't want to pur him through that again. He also has a week liver, and someone mentioned that their Liver specialist took them off everything, even vitamins for several months to bring enzymes back down. So, I don;t want to give him too many supplements, as his ALT is above normal.
We are trying to get fish in our diet, but I'd prefer the capsules when he has detoxed with his sweating and tubs first. Also give his liver some time to come around.....I hope. Even you said the liver itself doesn't detox.
Oh Keebler.......I am sooo tired of all this craziness- Thanks also Jackie for your reply.
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Keebler
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- 2roads,
I can understand wanting to stop everything to see.
Fish oil, though, is a food. You can drizzle in on foods. I find it more economical to buy as liquid, not in capsules, and mix with food, just as serving.
I do not recall saying this, exactly " . . . said the liver itself doesn't detox."
What I may have said is that we can't "detox" the liver, per se, but we nourish the liver so it can do the job of metabolizing toxins ("detox") itself.
Yes, the liver does "detox" itself, so to speak. But, when overwhelmed, it needs specific nutrients to best do that.
Can we sometimes get better nutrients from food than what comes in capsules. Sure. But it will take specific foods & LOTS and LOTS of veggies of all colors, etc. And that's just good for everyone.
Rather than see all this as "craziness" (I hate anyone thinking this complexity is crazy, it is not. It's very complicated, very hard but not crazy. Overwhelming, maybe. But not crazy.
It may help to just go for simplicity where possible. Simplicity is a good word.
Ahhhh. -
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