I have been on "good" combo treatment for about a month now.
I have seen some positive changes in the little stuff and am really looking forward to maybe doing even more agressive treatment to try to get my mind back.
In this whole hellish process...this is the first time I have truly felt depressed.
I am wondering if it is part of a herx...or a side effect of medication.
How do you find good therapy? What natural supplements work best for anxiety and depression. I have really just been frustrated up until now, but you would think I would somehow feel hopeful since I have finally found an LLMD.
Any ideas?
Thank you!
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How about zith or omnicef? Have to change my signature...no longer taking Biaxin. That was awful.
Thanks!
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OH, I thought you said in your other thread that you were taking Biaxin.
I don't know about zith .. but anything that gets into your brain can cause a brain herx and thus depression. Lyme itself causes depression...so taking meds for it can bring it out.
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Lymetoo. It's not you. My signature said biaxin until I just changed it.
I didn't post which abx on this read. Sorry for the confusion.
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Carol in PA
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Are you taking magnesium? And lots of fish oil?
The liver needs these to make glutathione in order to detoxify the dead Lyme bacteria. And they help to relieve depression also.
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Yes fishoil but not lots. 2 caps at dinner time
Not magnesium except I think it was part of the thyroid support I was taking. I ran out and had to order more so I haven't taken it in a few days
I seem to be taking many supplements. I don't know which are necessary
Not sure how best to detox
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Yes fishoil but not lots. 2 caps at dinner time
Not magnesium except I think it was part of the thyroid support I was taking. I ran out and had to order more so I haven't taken it in a few days
I seem to be taking many supplements. I don't know which are necessary
Not sure how best to detox
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Carol in PA
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You're very likely to be deficient in magnesium, as the Lyme bacteria use it up, leaving our cells with not enough for all our own enzyme processes.
Magnesium deficiency causes many of the symptoms that Lyme patients have, such as anxiety, depression, panic attacks, headaches.
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Some things my md recommends for depression
5 htp Lithium orotate Methyl b12 0.1ml sub cutaneous q day 10 mg/ml
Of course research them and ask your md.
I thought the zith was causing depression when I was taking it early on in my treatment and stopped it.
I now have been on it for around 5 mo and have learned the bigger the herx the more depression but that's just me.
I am not normally a depressed person so it's hard to recognize it until I am pretty down.
The lithium and b12 and detox really helped me recently.
I found that I cycle through the 5 stages of loss and grIef throughout my treatment. It helps to understand why we are feeling the way we are and what to look out for.
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what was so bad about biaxin,?/ do a lot of people have trouble with this?
'm frustrated cause in bed so much
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I have had mixed results from b12 injections. But the initial doses from LLND were awful, more recent doses are more helpful at 1/2 to 3/4 dose of what she originally used.
Maybe it would help to get in there. Problem is it is an hour drive so getting there is not easy
Can you give yourself B12 injections?
Detox...going to post about that. I have tried a number of things. It's not easy.
Nonna...Biaxin for me made me feel awful......I guess it may have been a herx but it was one I couldn't handle and after 3 weeks of it I gave up (but that was also knowing that it wasn't properly prescribed and I had my first LLMD visit a couple of weeks after discontinuing...I knew she would be prescribing something different or something else so I stopped)
Everything was awful on Biaxin...mood chills fatigue was even more crashing than usual...I really had to sleep many hours a day.
Not easy with 3 active children.
Are you in bed since starting biaxin?
That is where I was. My LLMD put me on omnicef and said she could either combine that with Biaxin or Azithromycin. I chose zith because of my recent bad experience with biaxin.
I think it is working and I don't feel as badly as I did with the Biaxin.
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you can give yourself B12 injections & they are also dirt cheap compared to getting them at doc's office; also a local GP will give them to you if you feel you cannot inject yourself - lots of local docs give them now.
Make yourself a daily chart - of when to take your antibiotics & when to take your vitamins, probiotics, etc. - it will help with the confusion.
I can sympathize with you - I suffered through my worst Lyme with 2 small children (one Asperger & 1 ADHD), no spouse & no help or support. Just have ti take it one day at a time and nap whenever you can.
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And you may want to talk to your LLMD about options for a more gentle & lengthy approach to eradicating/attacking the spirochetes.
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i didnt read all but rifampin immediately made me suicidal...i cut back ramped up slow and it is one of best meds i took. im sure it was herx. if you are killing what is in brain all kinds of things can happen
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