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bboop
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Hi everyone,

I am kind of new here. I am on 200 mg doxy 2x/day, and have been for about a month. Some days are better than others regarding stomach upset. I always take it with food.

There are days when I wake up and I just know if I take it I will be miserable, and other days when all seems pretty well. Lately it has been not so good. I'll admit up front that I ate some foods over the weekend that I usually avoid.

We entertained family for the holiday, so I had some chocolate and cheese on Sunday, and last night felt obligated to polish off the m & m's that I used to decorate my son's birthday cake. I typically avoid dairy due to respiratory problems.

So, today I have heartburn and overall my stomach doesn't feel great. I take therabiotic and saccoromyces boulardi, and I also take digestive enzymes and DGL (liccorice chewables). I know you can't take tums or other antacids within a couple of hours of doxy, but is it ok to take DGL?

My other complaint about the doxy is hunger! It's driving me nuts. I find that doxy makes me thirsty, so I drink more water. Sometimes I wonder if I am really thirsty when I think I am hungry, so I try drinking water first to see if the sensation of hunger goes away. (IT USUALLY DOESN'T)

I also think the doxy causes a burning feeling, which could also masquerade as hunger, so I wonder what would happen if I eliminated the burning feeling (if in fact, it isn't hunger.)

Are there any foods known to cause problems while on doxy, or any that you have found helpful, or at least neutral?

Thank you for reading my lengthy, multi-pronged complaint/question!

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Sugar is really bad as it feeds the bad bugs and yeast. You could be having a bit of a flare up today from the sugar yesterday.

I was hungry all the time through parts of my illness (other parts I didn't want to eat at all). I had really bad parasites. I'd eat and never gain weight so I really was hungry all the time as I wasn't getting nutrition from the food I ate, the parasites were.

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I would suggest taking the doxy in the MIDDLE of the meal. Do not eat dairy for 2 hrs before or after the doxy.

You probably stirred up some yeast by eating the sugar and the dairy. How many billion CFU's are you taking per day of the probiotics?

Are you eating plenty of good fats? Nuts, eggs, avocados, etc?? That will help stave off hunger.

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My stomach could not handle doxy until I started taking omeprazole. I take one omeprazole immediately upon waking and take my doxy 1-2hrs later.
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I agree with Lymetoo - take it in the middle of the meal. And the more food the better.

Never lay down right after taking it. It says 30 minutes - I'd give it an hour.

I ignored this advice and ended up with an ulcerated stomach and esophogus - TOTAL PAIN that takes a long time to heal.

The memprazole helps heal the stomach - I'd recommend that, too (per Ellen above)

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Yes, don't lie down for an hour... forgot that one!!

The omeprazole may be necessary too if you have a sensitive stomach.

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Thank you all, for this great input. My husband and I are both being treated, so this is helpful for both of us. I will get some omeprazole. I'm familiar with avoiding lying down after, so I agree with you all how important that is!

As for diet, yes, I eat nuts and eggs regularly, and protein in general. The probiotics are by Klaire Labs. Ther-biotic has 25 billion + CFU's and is multi-species. Saccoromyces Boulardii is 3+ billion. I take it 2x/day.

I was just prescribed diflucan once/week, too to manage yeast.

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You need a minimum of 100 billion CFU's while on long term abx.

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hey Lymies: I have a friend who is suffering with MAJOR nausea problems, every antibiotic doesn't seem to agree with her. She's gotten her positive test from I-Genex, is set up with LLMD. She is on tagamet and other strong prescription meds for nausea, but nothing seems to work. Does anyone blog on Lymenet.org enough to know if anyone on there has an answer for this type situation. She's not been able to eat much.. She's had every test imagineable, scans, blood tests, scopes, ultrasounds etc. She is also on Probiotics and Nystatin... Any advice on what to try??
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Has she tried cutting out ALL dairy? Afriend of mine had the same problems, did not have lyme, but constant nausea. She removed all dairy from her diet and the nausea went away. It can be very limiting as dairy is found in alot more things than we think. Is she nauseaus just when on abx?
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bboop, sorry you are feeling bad. I had the same problems as you. We change my doxy to 100 mg 3 x day with meals.

I recently tried to vamp back up to 200 mg twice a day and I got the horrible nausea and burning pain again.

Two other things that have helped are:

kefir every day (4 oz when I get up in the morning to coat my stomach - and in the afternoon away from ABX.

Licorice tea. I have a pot of it with my breakfast. I had tried DGL tabs and they didn't do a thing for me. I know that there is something eliminated in the tabs that remains in the tea.

I found the tea was the most amazing help. It didn't happen right away, but I noticed it really helped me to feel better all around. I hope it will help you both.

One note... if you have high blood pressure, the tea could be a bad thing for you. Check with your doctor about having the tea on a daily basis.

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Doryx has been my saving grace and NOT the generic version.

I could never take 400 mgs if it were not the Doryx form. It is a delayed release form of DOxy that gets absorbed in the small intestines, thus causes less gut issues.

You may want to ask your LLMD about that.

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smiley .. she may be dealing with candida/ yeast. Tell her to get on the diet.

desert... Doryx is the only form of doxy I can take. It is the bomb!

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quote:
Originally posted by smileynot:
hey Lymies: I have a friend who is suffering with MAJOR nausea problems, every antibiotic doesn't seem to agree with her. She's gotten her positive test from I-Genex, is set up with LLMD. She is on tagamet and other strong prescription meds for nausea, but nothing seems to work. Does anyone blog on Lymenet.org enough to know if anyone on there has an answer for this type situation. She's not been able to eat much.. She's had every test imagineable, scans, blood tests, scopes, ultrasounds etc. She is also on Probiotics and Nystatin... Any advice on what to try??

I used Ginger tea (made myself) and Reed's Ginger Beer. It's all natural and you can get the double ginger strength. Works wonders for naseau but it does have sugar in it so I use it sparingly.
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Yes....ginger tea saved me the first few weeks of doxy.

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I left a message at my LLMD's office about the Doryx, as that sounds very interesting. Also have ginger root at home and will make some tea. Also asking doc about increasing the pro-biotics

You guys are sooo helpful! Many thanks.

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"I had some chocolate and cheese on Sunday, and last night felt obligated to polish off the m & m's that I used to decorate my son's birthday cake"
[Eek!] [shake]
What... Are U nuts? (Sorry for the language.)

WHEN YOU ARE ON ANY hi-level abx therapy, like you NEED to be to 'recover' from Lyme disease, youn must NOT eat any sweets, pies, cakes or sugary beverages, or ANYthing with sugar. PERIOD.

It's important not only to avoid GI issues- like yeast "washouts"- but avoid blood-sugar level spikes which ENCOURAGE the Lyme 'ketes to proliferate.

READ the diet recommends in Dr B's guidelines & STICK TO them... atleast until you have the Lyme under control & are off ALL antibiotics.
Geesh!

And even when you're doing better learn to enoy a low carb, hi fiber diet from then on, as it will serve you well as you age. [Wink]

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Well, it's funny because I now crave protein of all kinds, and am actually less into sweets, so that is a good thing!

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