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I'm thinking of following the salt/vitamin c protocol. Can I do it without a doctor?
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Keebler
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- It's best to get the book first and see what tests they suggest.
It's good to have blood glucose checked. Basic kidney function tests are helpful but lately, even for kidney & heart patients, doctors are seeing that a certain amount of sea salt can be helpful.
Any GP can likely do the basics and may be inclined to at least be there for you once they understand this is SEA salt, starting in very low amounts.
(And that you will not be eating ANY processed foods with high sodium from "bad" salt sources. And that you will avoid ALL MSG, too.)
Some have done it without a doctor but, as with all things, it takes some reading and attention. It's BEST to have a doctor with you, though.
Better yet, if you have a LLMD, be sure they are in the discussion loop. As Gael stresses, not all LLMDs know all about parasites but some do.
I see you are on abx treatment, so it's important that your LLMD is informed of your desire to explore this and given every opportunity for input. -
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When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods:
if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL (lyme literate) doctor who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -
- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present.
Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.
When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.
Integrative / Holistic M.D., etc. (Be aware that those in this category can have various levels of formal herbal &/or nutritional education, perhaps even just a short course. Do ask first.)
Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:
Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;
knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.
You can compare and contrast many approaches.
BASIC HERBAL EDUCATIONAL & SAFETY links, etc. -
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- Be sure to avoid all in this category as there are hidden "bad" salts here:
SALT WE MISJUDGED YOU - by Gary Taubes -
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Keebler
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- To give you an idea of the starting amounts (to go along with your own studies of this and your doctor) . . .
From my file notes of a previous thread, a post by Gael (glm1111) - ---------------------------------
[She] started with:
� tsp sea salt (using Real Salt) and
� tsp Ester vitamin C powder with bioflavinoids in a tall glass of water.
I ramped up slowly 1/4 tsp a time according to how I was herxing.
For more guidance visit lymestrategies and the salt/c group doing this and other protocols as well. Some are also using abx and have an LLMD.
GAEL -------------------
I recall her also posting that if that is too much, not to try to tough it out but just sip on it slowly over a day, even. Or cut that in half.
IMO, it's important to avoid a "herx hit" or at least keep it to a minimum. Slow and steady. -
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- Another very valuable link for your homework: -----------------
This blog entry modified on November 07 2010 - by Scott Forsgren
- you might also want to search more on his excellent site and see his work also over at PHA (though it's harder to search on that site, so go to Google and cross search):
Public Health Alert -
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Keebler
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- While trying to be sure you have all available links to information you need, I'm also attempting to make a composite reference thread here since this topic comes up so frequently.
Other links are most welcome, of course. ---------------------------
"lyme" is included to help narrow the search field
Other search mix: Public+Health+Alert, salt/C, lyme
Several good hits. -
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glm1111
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Thanks Keebler for all the most helpful links and info. Just to add, I have had GREAT success with the salt/c protocol and antiparasitic herbs. It seems it has hit all of the other co-infections as well.
Persistence is KEY, and the folks that are successful with this protocol are the ones that stick with it. Salt also kills the cyst form of bb as well.
I have done this without the guidance of a doctor, however, following keeblers suggestions above is very good advice. Visiting lymestrategies as suggested is also worth while.
Gael
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