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Silverwolf
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Hi <<<<< Lyme Family >>>>>,

About 18? days back I finished the second pack of Azithromycin for a sinus infection. the packages state : Azith' 'keeps on -working-*2 Days 6-10.

The '2' by -working- is a small '2' [computer doesn't type it.] I've had some diarrhea and abdominal issues [which I knew could happen].

Last night I noticed a sore hard spot below my rt.eye, where glasses pad sits,it's a bit swollen following it down toward my lip area.

I was brushing my teeth and the area felt odd, so I lifted my lip gently away from tooth area. There is a hard white lump there ,feels odd.

I've had a smallish lump on gum, for quite awhile, but suddenly its very large.

I've been getting hot flashes and chills,so not sure If I am herxing, if it's an abscess and/or what's up???

Have an afternoon Appt. for this Tuesday coming w/ my PA.If it isn't calmed down..I'll show them.

We did the "Z" pack as I was also having skin tags 'freezer-burnt' off my neck. I have serious reactions to most antibiotics, hoping I don't have to put the 'Z' packs on my list too.

SO could the Zith bring up an abscess that was perhaps barely starting on the gums???

Jus' SIlverwolfi wonderin' what's up?

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2006,May-August2006 Dx w/ Lyme/Bartonella/White Matter Lesion Disease on Brain.
[ Clinical Dx w/ two positives and several IND's on the tests from Igenex ], Prior Dx of CFIDS/CEBV 1992, and FMS '93-'94
Diabetes*2 Dx 10/'08

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Silverwolf
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Just me rambling here...

Doesn't Bb tend to attack or teeth and gums? My brain keeps trying to remember something I read about this...

Can't think clearly...hot flashes right now...

I stopped supplements for a couple days, except for fish oils, magnesium, and B12 [methylcobalamin]. Trying to get this to calm down.

Jus'me again...

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2006,May-August2006 Dx w/ Lyme/Bartonella/White Matter Lesion Disease on Brain.
[ Clinical Dx w/ two positives and several IND's on the tests from Igenex ], Prior Dx of CFIDS/CEBV 1992, and FMS '93-'94
Diabetes*2 Dx 10/'08

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canaanbites
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In my experience there is a significant connection between lyme/coinfections and teeth/gums. Not only an increase in cavities and infections, but also mouth sores.

It seems to me (in my non-expert opinion) that zithromax (or any antibiotic, for that matter) could very possibly bring about mouth sores/lumps as a result of a herx.

These could also, however, be a result from yeast overgrowth, which may be triggered by your addition of zithromax. Either one would make sense. I'm sure there are other possibilities - just my two cents.

CB

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Silverwolf
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Hi there <<<<< canaanbites >>>>>,

Thanks for the comment, sorry I am late in replying. Updating sort of...

The Z-pack,which I hear isn't the best for sinus infections, didn't kill the infection [we used it as it is one of the few,I hadn't had a bad reaction/allergy to].

On a different ABX now,and it is making me miserable, I have an appt. w/ the slide fee clinics dentist for next Thurs.

PA looked at the lump on my gum... said 'Oh Crap' and called their dentist. So we'll find out if it is an abscess, a cyst,or some other strange thing next Thur.

It is strange,as it aches,but doesn't sting/burn as I would have expected.

Jus' Silverwolfi sorta slivered right now...

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2006,May-August2006 Dx w/ Lyme/Bartonella/White Matter Lesion Disease on Brain.
[ Clinical Dx w/ two positives and several IND's on the tests from Igenex ], Prior Dx of CFIDS/CEBV 1992, and FMS '93-'94
Diabetes*2 Dx 10/'08

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sammy
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Oh Silverwolfi, this stinks! I hope that your new antibiotic works well to clear out whatever infection is brewing in your gums and causing the pain in your sinuses.

It sounds like the zithromax was completely ineffective, it was not able to treat either the gum/tooth or sinus infection.

I wish I knew someway to help you or some better advise to give you. I don't know much about teeth. I just try my best to keep them clean [Smile]

When I had my wisdom teeth removed my dentist told me to swish several times a day with salt water until the holes healed. He said just pour some table salt in the bottom of a cup then mix it with hot water. The mixture should taste very salty like ocean water. Swish it for a minute the spit it out. Do that for a couple mouthfuls. It helps kill germs and helps to heal gum tissue if you have a wound in the mouth. Maybe it will help with your gum/tooth wound? It might be worth a try.

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Hi <<<<< sammy >>>>>,

Thanks for the reply! Dentist had PA order the new ABX, they said to take 4 a day, I cannot get past two capsules. It is 500 mg. per capsule.
And the 'IBS' problem is full blown right now.I have to be really careful.

I am wondering,if alternating a sea salt swish ,w/ Sovereign Silver might help?!! The salt is a good idea [Smile] Thank You!!!

Hopefully the clinic dentist will have some good ideas for effective and inexpensive remedies after they check my teeth too. I think they might suggest the salt rinse,as you have mentioned.

PA isn't sure if the gum lump is abscess, cyst or?? I just know it's not good when the PA says: 'Oh Crap...' and runs for the phone to get an appt. for me w/ their clinic's dentist.

Thanks again, I am so glad we can share and ask questions,here on LymeNet. I don't know what TxCoord and I would do w/o the help here!

I'll be glad to get this figured out, and am prayerfully hoping the ABX works on dental stuff and sinuses, even at a lower dose!

<<<<< sammy >>>>> [group hug] extra hugs, I hope you are feeling better! You remain in our prayers! ANd I find your suggestions greatly helpful !!!

Jus' Sliver-er-Silverwolfi here.

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2006,May-August2006 Dx w/ Lyme/Bartonella/White Matter Lesion Disease on Brain.
[ Clinical Dx w/ two positives and several IND's on the tests from Igenex ], Prior Dx of CFIDS/CEBV 1992, and FMS '93-'94
Diabetes*2 Dx 10/'08

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Oy...I'm a space cadet... Hey <<<<< sammy >>>>>,

Meant to mention, yeah,I don't think the Z-pack did much of any good this time. ANd it got my heart waking me up at night. So it prolly isn't a good idea to take anymore.

I cannot take -Biaxin- at all,it gives me severe headaches, stomach cramps and diarrhea. Thank goddness the PA made sure,that is in my records...NO Biaxin...!

Evidently they are similar drugs [ Z-pack and Biaxin ]. Hoping my new ABX doesn't get any worse side affects. I've been in the restroom ...A LOT! OY!

Jus' Spacey Silverwolfi

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2006,May-August2006 Dx w/ Lyme/Bartonella/White Matter Lesion Disease on Brain.
[ Clinical Dx w/ two positives and several IND's on the tests from Igenex ], Prior Dx of CFIDS/CEBV 1992, and FMS '93-'94
Diabetes*2 Dx 10/'08

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Hi <<<<< manybites >>>>> ,

Am starting to use Sovereign Silver for both the Sinus and the Dental issues. I really needed to do something,since I cannot get to the full dose of ABX.

I did just a bit of FL1953 research last night, I'll check the search engine here too.

Mosquitoes, yup, I wonder what all else they can carry...its sorta scary . We lived about 7 years in Louisiana and where we were was a mosquito hotbed.

Thanks again for the reply and info'.

Jus'Silverwolfi

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2006,May-August2006 Dx w/ Lyme/Bartonella/White Matter Lesion Disease on Brain.
[ Clinical Dx w/ two positives and several IND's on the tests from Igenex ], Prior Dx of CFIDS/CEBV 1992, and FMS '93-'94
Diabetes*2 Dx 10/'08

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Have you ever tried 'oil pulling'? Some people swear by it.

http://oilpulling.com/oilpullingvideos.htm

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Silverwolf
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Hi there <<<<< dbpei >>>>>,

I've read a little about the 'oil pulling' here,but haven't tried it.

Thanks for the link, I'll check on it. Hmm, this might be interesting... One day Salt gargle, another, Sovereign Silver,a third Oil pulling?!

It will give me options,after I see the dentist.

I tried the Salt rinse last night and my mouth felt better. I also did a 'spoon sinus sniff-up'[ can't think of the word ] w/ a bit of Sovereign Silver liquid last night.

We'll see how it goes.

Jus' Silverwolfi BBL

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2006,May-August2006 Dx w/ Lyme/Bartonella/White Matter Lesion Disease on Brain.
[ Clinical Dx w/ two positives and several IND's on the tests from Igenex ], Prior Dx of CFIDS/CEBV 1992, and FMS '93-'94
Diabetes*2 Dx 10/'08

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Yes, zith and biaxin are in the same drug family. I can't take either.

What med did they put you on this time?

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I'm sorry, I hope they can figure it out. Could they take an x-ray to see what is going on?

I get bad sinus infections, and sometimes they can cause toothaches since the sinuses are so close to the teeth. Once, I had such a bad toothache that I had to go to the dentist and the x-ray showed it was because of the sinus. I never had a bump though like you describe.

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Silverwolf
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<<<<< TF and WPinVA >>>>>,

Hi there, I am trying -Cephalexin- [gen.for Keflex] 500mg cap ,supposed to be 4x's a day, can't make it past two caps tho'.

-PA checked w/ Dentist that I'll see Thur.-,
They are hoping that the Ceph' will stop the lump/cyst/abscess/?? ,or what ever it is,and hopefully work on the sinus infection too.

I've had the sinus infections cause a bit of tooth/gum pain before...but the little 'lump' I've had for years suddenly grew/swelled, after the Z-packs.

I am really sensative to most ABX, a bit concerned about the Ceph'. I am highly allergic to Penicillin and it's family of meds.

**On Rare occasions the Ceph' can cause a reaction...so PA,Dentist,and Pharmacists all explained what to watch for.**

If it doesn't work,then it's on to Levaquin, but I hope it works.

Right now I am dealing w/ the 'IBS' hare and tortoise race to the restroom. IC issues [common for me], and swollen ankles as well as general joint aches.Also some mild dizziness and balance issues.

Some of it may be just general herxing... but I am watching closely.

I am hoping the dentist will be able to tell fairly quickly what the issue is. I don't know if they'll x-ray? This is a slide fee clinic and dental.

The lump is whitish pinkish,and achy,rather than burning like mouth sore, say when you bite your inner cheek.

Lyme and Co's, seems to bring up so many issues for us. I just hope this time it is something simple. The ABX, makes my abdomen tender among other things.

Thanks for the replies and input. I'll be updating after the dentist appt.,provided I can think straight enough too. Or TxCoord might update for me.

Jus' SIlverwolfi here

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2006,May-August2006 Dx w/ Lyme/Bartonella/White Matter Lesion Disease on Brain.
[ Clinical Dx w/ two positives and several IND's on the tests from Igenex ], Prior Dx of CFIDS/CEBV 1992, and FMS '93-'94
Diabetes*2 Dx 10/'08

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