Topic: Please, help legthy..Woman Problems UPDATE 11/9!!Please HELP!
tricia386
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So...where to begin.
2 weeks ago I was on vacation in Marthas Vineyard. Where my bf of 6 years proposed!!!
Anyways...
On my way there I believed I was getting a UTI but it wasnt that bad my Tuesday I believed I had a full UTI. I called my LLMD. He wanted me to get a Urnalysis and a Urine Culture before he would perscribe anything. I took the test and he perscribed Macrobid.
On Wednesday the office called and said everything is negative and we urge you to get to an OBGYN.
I went to one and she examined me. I thought when she did the internal exam I would go through the roof. She said. I think you have PID. She called my LLMD and teh figured out a treatment plan. A Shot of rocpehin and doxy for 2 weeks.
After I recieved the shot within hours I felt so much better.
Then that night my BF proposed on teh beach!! And I enjoyed the rest of vacation pain free.
Then Monday I came home and restarted Septra and took a bath. I began to experience extereme vaginal itching and readness and burning and soreness.
On Wednesday I went to the OBGYN and she confirmed PID was gone. And she believed I had a massive yeast infection from all teh antibiotics. She did run a bunch of tests adn cultures and said they would be in monday. She perscribed Difulcan and Cream and I was feeling better by Friday.
Then yesterday I restarted Septra again and I woke up at 4 with the same burning feeling.
Do you think this is cocidence? Or do you think it has to do with Septra?? I have taken Septra before without any problems. And i did forget to put my cream on last night... I am so confused. Sorry so long...Any input would be apperciated.
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It does sound like yeast at this point and forgetting the cream probably is the reason for the burning again.
I'm not sure how bad Septra is in regards to yeast but you had other antibiotics and probably not enough yeast treatment to get rid of it IMO.
Regular docs will usually only order 3 days of Diflucan. Hopefully getting back on the cream as ordered will clear it up. Or you may need more Diflucan?
Hope you're more comfortable now. And CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
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tricia386
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Thanks!
I am on Difulcan for 2 weeks 200 mgs and than the cream. They did do a culture, so I should know soon. I hate not know what is what
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Sounds like yeast to me. Get on the DIET bigtime. No sugar, no white foods, no artificial sugar, no fruit. Get after it before you end up with it forever.
Congratulations on the proposal. How cool!
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You can all your pharmacist ( or find a woman pharmacist if yours is not...)
They usually know best about drug side effects.
And ......congratulations! Nothing like the yeasty beasties to show up at the wrong time!!
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I know damn yeasty beasties. I have been with my BF for 6.5 years and I dont know how I would have made it without him. He has been my rock and I am suprised he even wants to marry me knowing I may never be well again
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Awesome Tricia (congratulations)!
Change your diet. It's the one thing that we actually can control. Check out Burrascano's anti candida diet (works for me).
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CONGRATULATIONS. Nice to hear good stuff.
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Congratulations, Tricia! Try rubbing some coconut oil where it burns. It has so many uses and this is one of them. It is anti-fungal, anti-viral and anti-bacterial. Hope with dietary changes, this will make a difference.
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Yea-- stay away from the baths when you're having yeast troubles that always makes it worse for me
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tricia386
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So, my OBGYN called I am negatibe for EVERYTHING
5 kinds of yeast Herpes Gonahrea Chlamydia BV Trich
They have no idea what it can be they said if I dont feel better to call back in a week. I dont know what to do.
Could this be a side effect of any of the antibiotics. Could it be the urine irritating it. I am so confused.
...I feel so hopeless....please help
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tricia386
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Its not a yeast infection though I dont know what it is....I am scared
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I bet it is yeast that didn't show up on the tests.
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I do not have any discharge not to be gross. I have been on Difulcan and Nystatin for a week watching my diet and I have cream and it just seems to get worse.
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Doctors don�t know the cause of most forms of vulvodynia. And there is no evidence that infections, such as sexually transmitted diseases, cause vulvodynia.
Researchers are trying to find the causes of vulvodynia. They may include:
Nerve injury or irritation Abnormal response in vulvar cells to an infection or trauma Genetic factors that make the vulva respond poorly to chronic inflammation Hypersensitivity to yeast infections Muscle spasms Allergies or irritation to chemicals or other substances Hormonal changes History of sexual abuse Frequent antibiotic use
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Thanks Lyme too
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I have it and its awful pain. Can come from Lyme or from an injury to the area.
Look for a gyn who specializes in this field.
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It came out of nowhere. It started after I was dxed with PID.
IS there anything you have done to help the pain?
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vulvodynia is also a mystery inflamatory condition. Nurve inflamation which burns and is pain.
My doc who specialized in this just retired. Maybe google the vulvodynia foundation and see if there's anyone near you who you can see.
Few gyns deal with this issue. You need someone who deals with this.
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I am in so much pain. i dont knwo what to do. I cant live like t his for the rest of my life. Im waiting to hear back from LLMD my OBGYN is stumped.
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PROBIOTICS Baby!!!
You've been killing the yeast with diflucan & etc., but NOT replacing the "friendlies!" (This would be my best guess.)
Having dealt w/yeast for YEARS due to the requirement I take a "bomb" of abx just to see the dentist... this is what WORKED ..
Bio-K fresh probiotics ... available Whole Foods Market, about $5.00 for a 2 oz container. Comes in dairy and non-dairy. I found that just taking a tablespoon of this twice a day would chase the yeasties away!
Yeast Guard vaginal suppositories ... available at any CVS in the "feminine hygiene" department. These introduce lactobacillus (the "friendly" bacteria that makes yogurt) directly into the vagina... for just about INSTANT relief! Cost about $10 for a dozen suppositories. They also offer a topical cream, but I have had good results with the suppository alone.
Also ...what Lymetoo said about diet, definitely! And this especially INCLUDES eliminating Wine and Beer! (Fermented = trouble.)
Another warning ... yeast CAN be passed between couples, so you might want to consider using condoms until you get this thing under control.
Now, Congratulations on your engagement! Doubt there's a more romantic spot in the world to get engaged than Martha's Vineyard, xcept maybe Nantucket! May God Bless you both with a long and happy life together.
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They tested me for yeast and said it was negatibe though! I have been on diflucan and cream for a week with no relief
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check in with the foundation to see if the docs that specialize in this.
Lyme can also trigger it.
Its tricky, and regular docs don'tknow what to do with it. I don't know any docs in this field neither, now that mine retired.
And congrats on your engagement!
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tricia386
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Talktel Did yours ever go away or lessen in pain? What treatment did you find helpful?
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- On a lighter note, a marketing ploy to woo the "fairer sex" backfires - some very funny posts:
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It might be parasites. I had what I thought was vulvodynia for many years & it cleared up when I started taking anti-parasite protocols. It took time since I was ill for many years but it's worked. My menstrual cramps are less, too.
I think vulvodynia is just a "catch all" diagnosis when they don't know what it is. Sort of like fibromyalgia. I'm sorry - I don't mean to offend anyone but I've had both of these illnesses & diagnoses - so, I'm not just taking pot shots at them.
I believe that microfilaria (worms) can live in the vagina. So can pinworms. I don't know why this isn't common knowledge. Since all your tests were negative - I'd try some serious anti-parasite protocols.
If you have Lyme, it's very possible to also have some kind of parasite. There have been many studies about it & some progressive doctors are finally coming around to see that parasites need to be treated.
Good luck with everything!
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tricia386
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Well my LLMD is Stumped. And so am I and so is my OBGYN. I do have an appt again with my OBGYN and I will bring up Vulvidonyia, lichen scelrious...anything else?
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Tricia386 -
I just noticed your profile info says your Lyme was "activated" by
THE GARDISIL VACCINE!
Can you extrapolate on this? Were you dxd for Lyme prior to receiving the vaccine? I have heard of some very serious adverse reactions from Gardisil! You have my sincere sympathy!
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tricia386
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No, i did not have symptoms before the vaccine I was a healthy 23 year old traveling the world with my fiance in gradschool having the time of my life...now my whole world has changed. and here I am 3 years later. I started lyme treatment in 2011....I have made huge strides and i thought i was turning the corned this summer and now this...
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As you know, PID is very serious. I expect you were given "serious" antibiotics to control it. (Just curious - and no pressure - but I wonder if you had been using an IUD? These have been implicated in PID.)
I think Lymetoo made an excellent observation in that one of your abx might have really irritated the nerves of this delicate tissue.
That having been said, interstitial cystitis is VERY common in post-menopausal women, because their vaginal (and surrounding) tissues become dry and less elastic when estrogen levels drop. (What is known as "vaginal atrophy") This condition makes intercourse difficult, if not impossible, and is the most common health complaint of post-menopausal women.
Vaginal atrophy and IC are closely related. (As loss of tissue elasticity is a big part of the reason why older women may experience incontinence.) But the pain, spasms, and associated "bladder urgency" associated with IC can make us reticent to leave our homes.
A girlfriend of mine was recently diagnosed with IC, and her third doc, a urologist, prescribed a topical cream called Estrace. Since I suspect that Estrace, a pharmaceutical product, most likely contains synthetic estrogens, I suggested that she try a similar product that contains "bio-identical" estrogen. These products contain pure plant based natural Estriol, which is the third type of estrogen our bodies make naturally, and is considered the safest form.
Many women who have been unable to engage in marital relations for years because of this atrophy, have regained their love lives by using a bio-identical estrogen suppository. And the reports of users tell us they really work.
A brand that I saw recommended by an OB/GYN in an online article is made by "Bezwecken" - and is available for purchase online, without a prescription. These estriol suppositories are made with pure bees wax, and have no irritating chemicals. They are also very affordable (about $8.50 for a package of 14.)
My friend with the IC just ordered hers last week. They come in 1-3 gm natural estriol doses. I will be interested to learn of her results.
I like the idea that this form of estriol delivery is "local" - affecting the tissues that have always been bathed in hormones, as per Mother Nature's plan. Studies of vaginal estrogen replacement have failed to note any increased cancer risks, unlike the oral estrogen replacement products, that were "twisted" to satisfy patent requirements.
If you are uncomfortable going this route, you might also try breaking a Vitamin E capsule and using the contents as a soothing topical lubricant, to cut down irritation. Vitamin E, as you know, is an antioxidant. Used topically, it is known to help sunburn and other skin wounds to heal without forming scar tissue.
Also, dpei suggested using pure coconut oil for this purpose - which is another great idea.
Sounds like irritation/inflammation from the infection and strong treatment - and many here have used herbal anti-inflammatory products with notable success. Curcumin/Tumeric are said to be very effective supplements, and the company New Chapter offers an herbal called Inflammend. I would definitely try one of these too.
I wish you a quick resolution to this problem.
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tricia386
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Lynn-
I was treated with a shot of rochephin and 2 weeks of doxy.
The thing is I can touch my Vula it isnt painful it just burns I heard with vuvladyonia you cant even touch it
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That's what I gathered from your earlier posts, Tricia. Why I supplied the additional info, to cover whatever else might be relative.
I would definitely do probiotics - as you likely have NO friendly bacteria after all the abx and anti-yeast. Couldn't hurt.
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Tricia, this is a total coincidence, but I started having burning in the same area as you recently. I couldn't figure it out, but realized I had just started a new multi-vitamin that came highly recommended in the lyme community.
It is a powder form that you add to liquid and has mega doses of various vitamins and minerals. I contacted the company to see if this is a possible side effect. They told me to stop taking immediately.
I did not take today and I will see if there is any change. I also started pure mangosteen juice recently and wonder if that could be the culprit.
Have you recently started taking any new supplements or fruits/veggies? Just a thought...
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Hmmm... speaking of Vit E for sunburns made me think of using vinegar. We always put vinegar on sunburns. It's very soothing, believe it or not.
Try a small area if that scares you.
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Nope nothing new. The only thing I can think of is this started after the pid.
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Well..went to obgyn...and she did an exam.I went through the roof when she touched my cervix. The burning seems to be gone.Do to using coconut oil.
She reviewed the culture under the microscope. And said there is bacteria there and shes not sure if its physcological or an infection. She wants me on Flagyl 1000 for 2 weeks. Need to call LLMD and check.
A lil nervous bc symptoms have been inproving with sleeping with a tampoon with coconut oil in.
ugh so confused
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"She reviewed the culture under the microscope. And said there is bacteria there and shes not sure if its physcological or an infection."
HUH?? I never heard of psychological bacteria??
or do you mean physiological?? That's still a bit odd to me.
(glad some of the pain has been relieved)
watch out for that flagyl .. have you taken that much before?
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Lymetoo:
HAHAH I mean pschological. I know it didnt make much since to me either. It wasnt my normal obyn either, she was on vacation. Holiday weeked. When she did examine my my cervice was a lil sore. But she also said this could be left over inflamation. I have to go back from an ultrasound in a few weeks.
No I have never taken flagyl only Tini. And tini pulese never for 7 days straight.
I called down to my LLMD to get their opinion. Waiting for their opinion.
I do have a lot of reducation in symptoms today. I may keep the coconut oil thing going for 2 more days and see how I feel. I wont take flagyl to I hear back from my LLMD.
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hmmm- the connection seems pretty clear to me after reading this entire thread.
Bactrim.
Are you still taking it? You stated that when you stooped, so did your symptoms, when you restarted bactrim, your symptoms restarted.
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Ya, the Burning has calmed down alot. So much.I think it was the bactrim too. So werid it would cause the reaction after being on it for so long.
Now, i am still dealing with UTI symptoms which I think might be that my PID is back...
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Vulvodynia is REAL - but it is caused by SOMEthing, I've had it since May, 2005 and have come a long way.
Potential causes:
Lyme and/or co-infections Hormonal Imbalances PID Gluten Sensitivity Food Allergies Interstatial Cystitis More that I can't think of at the moment.
I got mine after a severe yeast infection and the pain never went away. I was at a TEN everyday in a fetal position by 6:00 p.m.
Things I did to improve:
Learn not to clench muschles (down there and entire body) Changed to an alkaline forming diet - remove soda completely. No white stuff Rifing for Babs got me to the point where I can wear (very large) underpants and soft clothing
I just began working with Dr. M in Palo Alto CA. She is a GYN that specializes in Vulvar Pain. She now treats Lyme Disease because she tested a woman for Lyme when her other methods didn't work . She now has many Lyme patients with this type of pain.
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sent you another PM
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Well I started flagyl today is day 3. I think I might have ic now. But when they did my internal pelvic exam my cervix was inflammed so who knows what is going on I feel so lost and confused.
Any help would be apperited
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I have burning-just started. My culture was negative as well-however, interestingly, it was also negative for good bacteria!
Lactobacillus are needed to keep the ph normal. I'm looking into upping my probiotics, and a vaginal suppository with the good probiotics
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