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desertwind
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Wondering if anyone is taking Byron White A-P for parasite issues?

I am on day 3 and woke with horrific headache, twitching eye and flashing lights in my vision.

Actually the twitching eye and flashing lights came on after I went to the bathroom....

Can this stuff be THAT powerful????

Day one was 1/3 of a drop, day two I took remaining 2/3 of a drop and today a full drop.

Just not sure what to expect on this stuff but I have been upping my candidas/parastie/liver de-tox protocol. Thanks. DW

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I haven't tried that one the A-P yet, but can tell you that the other BW fomulas I take are VERY strong (they work for some people).

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I have not tried the A-P, but A-BAB really kicked my bootie. I could not tolerate it.
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Humm....I will try to tough it out.

I am off all abx.s due to liver e.'s so going all herbs at this point. Probably not going back to abx. as I have been holding steady for a while now.

I cannot imagine how one drop could be sooo powerful!

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I could not believe how potent the A-BAB was either.

Elevated enzymes can happen. I have had this happen a few times. I think Lyme can cause this.

It is great you are doing well off meds!

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I can feel them working within minutes of taking them. Just increasing one drop can make me herx.

I haven't tried the A-Bab yet. Some babs symptoms are coming back more frequently though ever since the full moon. Maybe this one's next for me.

I have to do the water bath method for the formulas that I do take though (alcohol based (can cause yeast). It makes them tolerable so that I can continue to take them.

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What is in the formula ? Does the pacakage state the contents ? Is this product making anyone well , or does everyone just herx perpetually aand not improve ?

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What is in the formula ? Does the pacakage state the contents ? Is this product making anyone well , or does everyone just herx perpetually aand not improve ?

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If you click on the formula, it lists the ingredients. http://www.byronwhiteformulas.com/

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Well I was actually felt pretty good before starting the A-P. Needing to work on some digestive/gastro issues that are thought to be yeast and parasites. So onto the A-P...

Call my crazy but I too felt something within minutes of taking it. I thought it was just my imagination but it happened each time. Now I just feel overall crappy again.

Regarding the ingrediants. Honestly it is printed way too small for me to see w/o a magnifying glass, but good question cuz I like to know what I am putting in my body.

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Catgirl; Thanks for posting that link! Now I don't have to look for a magnifying glass:).

I have no idea what any other those herbs are. I hate the way it makes me feel. Maybe I should have just done some more traditional herbs for parasites.

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You're welcome! Hey, we have to do whatever works. Feeling crappy sounds like the A-P is getting them (may be worth staying on it).

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I used it for just a little while, just a few drops here and there. I use energy testing, and it never tested as that worthwhile for me, nor did I notice anything while taking it. Good to here it might be useful for some anyway.

I have found the A-L, A-BAB, and A-BART to be very good for me.

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Thinking about trying Byron White formulas. Can someone tell me if I need a script to order, or do you have a link to a direct distributor where I can order it by myself?

Thank You

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I've used them and bought them for my LLMD's office. Not sure if you can order online anywhere.
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I'd work with your LLMD for the BW formulas. I just started and the doctor's instructions are different than what's on the bottle for me.

This stuff IS very powerful. I was shocked out how strong 1 drop can be.

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My understanding is you can only get them via your doctor??

Very powerful for both myself and husband. We are up to 2 drops 3 times a day and it is causing the SAME herx as when I first started treating Babs.

He usally does not herx but this stuff is kicking up his bells palsy symptoms.

I would like to know how this stuff can be sooo powerful with just a drop or two.

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You may be able to get them from this place without a doctor...?

http://www.forresthealth.com/byron-white-formulas.html

I think you can consult with them to purchase some of the formulas but I'm not sure.

Having a bad herx reaction doesn't always mean something is working to make you well. Have any people used these formulas & actually got better? I'm just curious....

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Tks Sparkle I'll give it a shot..

(Having a bad herx reaction doesn't always mean something is working to make you well.) Isn't that the truth?

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I haven't done AP but am on A-Bart,A-bABS AND OTHERS THEY KICK BUTT Oops caps [Smile]
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I am up to 3 drops 3 times a day.

So does anyone know WHY B.W. is so powerful?

I do not know if this is helping me or not. I will give it a fair shake but I will not go on forever if it just continually makes me feel bad.

How do we know that these herbs are not damaging to us - i.e. our liver? Too much OOO and Kava Kava can be toxic to the liver (from what I was told) so why not other herbs?

My doubting thomas is out and about today....

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My LLNP told me to increase very slowly and listen to my body. If I have mild herxing that is tolerable, that is okay. But if and when I get to the point that my herxing is making me miserable, to go back to the number of drops that were previously working at a comfortable level.

I haven't gotten to that point, but am only taking 6 drops 2 x day of AL complex. I move up to 7 tomorrow. So far, I sometimes feel some mild joint pain and my head pressure and tinnitus have been fluctuating.

I am still on ABX for babs, so it is difficult to know which is helping me. But I am going to keep adding the BW herbs slowly and see if there is any change.

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Thanks dbpei. I had to take the day off from BW yesterday - just felt too over loaded plus I added Rifampin to my abx.s.

I am going back down to 2 drops twice a day today and see how I handle that. Maybe I should not try to go to 3 times a day and just keep it at 2 times a day.

My LLMD gave me instructions and I tend to push things a bit too fast as I am getting tired of all of this.

Intersting that my husbnad who has never herxed on abx.s (just felt better and better on abx.s) is herxing on BW.

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That is interesting about your husband! I wonder if it is because the BW herbs might be going after some of the things that the ABX he took didn't go after, such as parasites, cyst form, etc.

Good luck to both of you.

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Yeah, we are taking A-P formula targeted for parasites but I think there are a few herbs in that one that is also in the A-L formula.

We both are flaring - his bells palsy and my occipital neuralgia and other neuro. stuff.

He has a very strong immune system and could handle high dose abx.s with no problem but this is kicking him in the butt really hard!

Best wishes to you as well, DW

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There is a synergistic effect when combining these herbs (another reason to go slowly).

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Maybe that's what makes it so powerful?

I am going to try 3 drops tonight and see if I can stay with that amount for a few days.

I also bite off more then I can chew.

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desertwind - If you have parasites - there's a good chance that your husband has them, too... Just a thought.

All of this mess is complicated.

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I agree with Sparkle. Having a herx may mean it is killing something , but has anyone really IMPROVED on these formulas? I would like to know !

I do not mean to sound negative, but it seems like many of us herx but do not actually make real tangible progress . Frustrating !

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sparkle; Yup you are right - hubby has them too -he is well you know...let's just say he is seeing some "evidence" of them each morning as well as I...ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

We also took Pin-X 2 weeks ago and will repeat this week.

I cook with garlic, ginger and cloves every night as well. Not taking any other parasite cleanse as of right now cuz I want to see if and what the A-P does.

What if all remaining symptoms are from parasite??

annxyzz; You are not being negative at all. I think about that all the time. I will go to hell and back to be better but not if I am not going to be any better by taking all these things!

I am seeing a change in my gut et al as well as some evidence that I am passing some stuff each morning so I am hoping that is a sign that things are going in the right direction.

Yes, all of this is a complicated mess.

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Anyone still on BW A-P or helped by it?

Thanks

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