LymeNet Home LymeNet Home Page LymeNet Flash Discussion LymeNet Support Group Database LymeNet Literature Library LymeNet Legal Resources LymeNet Medical & Scientific Abstract Database LymeNet Newsletter Home Page LymeNet Recommended Books LymeNet Tick Pictures Search The LymeNet Site LymeNet Links LymeNet Frequently Asked Questions About The Lyme Disease Network LymeNet Menu

LymeNet on Facebook

LymeNet on Twitter




The Lyme Disease Network receives a commission from Amazon.com for each purchase originating from this site.

When purchasing from Amazon.com, please
click here first.

Thank you.

LymeNet Flash Discussion
Dedicated to the Bachmann Family

LymeNet needs your help:
LymeNet 2020 fund drive


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations.

LymeNet Flash Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply
my profile | directory login | register | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» LymeNet Flash » Questions and Discussion » Medical Questions » Bartonella - top of head? bumps on scalp?

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Bartonella - top of head? bumps on scalp?
lymenotlite
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 33166

Icon 1 posted      Profile for lymenotlite     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Is it bartonella when you feel sensation on the top of your head? I'm hoping I have gotten rid of babesia and that was accompanied by a lot of headaches which are not happening now.

Does anyone get bumps on the top of the scalp towards the back?

Posts: 705 | From WA state | Registered: Jul 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Haley
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 22008

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Haley     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
OH my gosh..... YES.

I have told my doctor when I figure out what is causing this I will treat it and be well. There is a correlation with this and all of my severe cognitive problems and other stuff. I have associated it with parasites or Babesia, but I still don't know. I have gotten to the point where I am read to shave my head and get a look at it and take a biopsy myself.

It is at the crown of my head. It is an odd sensation sometimes a crawling, sometimes a pressure and sometimes painful. Usually just an odd sensation. I also have lumps there. Different things seem to help it, but it always comes back. At one time I had a rash there (I believe it was RMSF).

Can you tell me - do you have cognitive issues? Did you test positive for Babesia (not that that really means anything). Is there anything that helps it?

Sorry for all the questions. This is a mystery I am trying to figure out and looking for all clues.

I have had a positive test for Lyme, Bart, RMSF, Ehrlicha.

Posts: 2232 | From USA | Registered: Aug 2009  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
glm1111
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 16556

Icon 1 posted      Profile for glm1111     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
The bumps and crawling sensations are from parasites! They are an often overlooked co-infection of Lyme even by LLMDs. Google parasite symptoms and do a search on here for parasites.

Gael

--------------------
PARASITES/WORMS ARE NOW
RECOGNIZED AS THE NUMBER 1 CO-INFECTION IN LYME DISEASE BY ILADS*

Posts: 6418 | From philadelphia pa | Registered: Jul 2008  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Haley
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 22008

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Haley     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I do feel a difference when I take Ivermectin.

I came across a book called "Tropical Diseases" for physicians. It describes all of the parasites and lots of detail about each one.

The filarial worm will go to the subcutaneous tissue near the skull and form lumps. It's possible that this is the infection, but I won't be totally convinced until it is gone.

The book also explains that a blood test for this infection will not work, you need to get a tissue sample, usually taken from the cheek.

Posts: 2232 | From USA | Registered: Aug 2009  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Razzle
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 30398

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Razzle     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I was under the impression that Bartonella caused subcutaneous nodules...?

Couldn't these subcutaneous nodules occur on the scalp?

I have 2 lumps, painful to touch, on my scalp. I was told initially they were ingrown hairs (??) but no abx have done anything to get rid of them...and I would think abx would've worked for that if they were ingrown hairs (infected)...???

--------------------
-Razzle
Lyme IgM IGeneX Pos. 18+++, 23-25+, 30++, 31+, 34++, 39 IND, 83-93 IND; IgG IGeneX Neg. 30+, 39 IND; Mayo/CDC Pos. IgM 23+, 39+; IgG Mayo/CDC Neg. band 41+; Bart. (clinical dx; Fry Labs neg. for all coinfections), sx >30 yrs.

Posts: 4166 | From WA | Registered: Feb 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
glm1111
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 16556

Icon 1 posted      Profile for glm1111     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I have seen the parasites emerge from the bumps first hand. The salt/c and herbs was what made them come out. I also had the colored ones as pictured on www.lymephotos.com emerge from my scalp, nose and mouth. For me, the jury is no longer out, and the facts speak for themselves.

Gael

--------------------
PARASITES/WORMS ARE NOW
RECOGNIZED AS THE NUMBER 1 CO-INFECTION IN LYME DISEASE BY ILADS*

Posts: 6418 | From philadelphia pa | Registered: Jul 2008  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
payne
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 26248

Icon 1 posted      Profile for payne     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
being a man, and alittle balding..(:
I notice my crown, top of me head...
sticky.. my .2 cents..

--------------------
TULAREMIA/rabbit fever ?

Posts: 1931 | From mid-michigan | Registered: Jun 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
glm1111
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 16556

Icon 1 posted      Profile for glm1111     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
payne,

are you doing anything in the way of treating parasites? I noticed in the past that the sticky stuff seemed to come along with the parasites. Went away as tx progressed with antiparasitics.

Adding another 2 cents to the mix.

Gael

--------------------
PARASITES/WORMS ARE NOW
RECOGNIZED AS THE NUMBER 1 CO-INFECTION IN LYME DISEASE BY ILADS*

Posts: 6418 | From philadelphia pa | Registered: Jul 2008  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
lymenotlite
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 33166

Icon 1 posted      Profile for lymenotlite     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I did the Dr. K parasite protocol ending about the last of April. I ordered the drugs from India. At the very end of the protocol my scalp got very hot and irritated, then my hair turned snow white. My original color is now returning and my hair seems fine, although with white ends. The bumps went away then and I was hoping it was permanent but now they are back. I did not have any stickiness with the bumps.

I did mepron for a couple of months right after the Dr. K protocol along with some biaxin and rifampin, not all together. I have some cognitive issues but not as bad as before. I'm hoping the babesia is gone. Don't know whether things will get worse or better.

I'm not wanting to return to drugs so maybe I will try the salt/C protocol. Thanks for reminding me of that.

Posts: 705 | From WA state | Registered: Jul 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
glm1111
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 16556

Icon 1 posted      Profile for glm1111     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
lymenotlite,

Treating parasites should be an ongoing proposition if one is infected. Parasites lay thousands of eggs (up to 200,000 a day)If just one egg is left, the cycle will start all over again. Hulda Clark suggests maintenance FOREVER.

I tend to agree. You might also want to consider antiparasitic herbs such as Parastroy, Humaworm or Hanna kroeger Wormwood Combo along with extra cloves that kill the eggs and salt/c.

Gael

--------------------
PARASITES/WORMS ARE NOW
RECOGNIZED AS THE NUMBER 1 CO-INFECTION IN LYME DISEASE BY ILADS*

Posts: 6418 | From philadelphia pa | Registered: Jul 2008  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
payne
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 26248

Icon 1 posted      Profile for payne     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
i'm not on any parasite treatment..
lyme doc acts like its not a big deal...
little confused.. isn't lyme disease a cork screw parasite traveling through out our bodies leaving toxins from dieing off ?
on bicillin and flagyl going on 4th yr of fun with lyme.. torture. co-infections included,
i also thought we humans never completely clean out parasites.. its ever ending and up to my own inmunities to keep a balance.

--------------------
TULAREMIA/rabbit fever ?

Posts: 1931 | From mid-michigan | Registered: Jun 2010  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
lpkayak
Honored Contributor (10K+ posts)
Member # 5230

Icon 1 posted      Profile for lpkayak     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
razzle-i have both kinds of bumps-they are different

--------------------
Lyme? Its complicated. Educate yourself.

Posts: 13712 | From new england | Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
dbpei
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 33574

Icon 1 posted      Profile for dbpei     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I've had one bump that has been there for quite a while. Not sure it is lyme related or something I've had all my life. I do get the crawling sensations since being treated for babesia - and more so since chelating heavy metals. I just posted something about this.
Posts: 2386 | From New England | Registered: Aug 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
lymenotlite
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 33166

Icon 1 posted      Profile for lymenotlite     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I started taking salt and vitamin C at one gram each. Yesterday I did that four times. Now the bumps are gone so that was quite fast.
Posts: 705 | From WA state | Registered: Jul 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
glm1111
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 16556

Icon 1 posted      Profile for glm1111     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
lymenolite,

That's interesting...make sure you ramp up slowly and drink extra water to circulate the salt.

Also eat foods high in potassium or drink coconut water to balance out electrolytes. Keep us posted for results.

Gael

--------------------
PARASITES/WORMS ARE NOW
RECOGNIZED AS THE NUMBER 1 CO-INFECTION IN LYME DISEASE BY ILADS*

Posts: 6418 | From philadelphia pa | Registered: Jul 2008  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
derek85
Junior Member
Member # 45061

Icon 1 posted      Profile for derek85     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I get bumps on my scalp, and they become painful when I take Doxy and after a few days they fall off, Is RMSF chronic like Lyme? will it keep damaging my body as long as I test positive?
Posts: 3 | From Indiana | Registered: Dec 2014  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
purplehaze
Member
Member # 40385

Icon 1 posted      Profile for purplehaze     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
bumps on top of head - oh hell yea
been coming and going for the past 15 years

have been told by a guy operating a Bioresonance machine that I had Bartonella [amoung other things like Candida and other co-infections

Posts: 69 | From Ireland | Registered: Apr 2013  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
derek85
Junior Member
Member # 45061

Icon 1 posted      Profile for derek85     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Do you also have RMSF? I keep testing positive 1:64 IgM and IgG even after taking doxy, it's been a while... do I have to worry about it ?
Posts: 3 | From Indiana | Registered: Dec 2014  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Rivendell
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 19922

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Rivendell     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I had those about 1 1/2 years ago. I have been diagnosed with lyme and Bart and possibly Babs.

Also I know I have some yeast issues and parasites.

Don't know which caused the bumps on my scalps, but when they appeared, I had hot and cold flashes and felt like I was going crazy with anxiety, etc. They eventually went away, but the Bart, Lyme, possible Babs, yeast and parasites haven't.

--------------------
Herbal Treatments for Lyme and Co-Infections:
http://buhnerhealinglyme.com
http://www.tiredoflyme.com/the-cowden-protocol-for-lyme-disease.html http://www.sinomedresearch.org http://www.lymenet.org/SupportGroups/

Posts: 1358 | From Midwest | Registered: Apr 2009  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
derek85
Junior Member
Member # 45061

Icon 1 posted      Profile for derek85     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Have you been tested for RMSF?
Posts: 3 | From Indiana | Registered: Dec 2014  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Sonatina
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 45056

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Sonatina     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I suspect Malassezia yeast, commonly present on the scalp and capable of overgrowth due to prolonged antibiotic treatment. It feeds on sebum in the hair follicles. (It's a lipophilic yeast ... does not eat sugar like candida).

derek85: I believe doxy could in theory potentially affect Malassezia, because it binds to/restricts the availability of certain critical substances Malassezia seeks for growth, including iron and melanin (pigment).

Anti-malarial drugs, anti-parasitics, and rifampin MAY possibly have some effect as well ... that's something I'm trying to research further and I don't know anything definitive about it.

For more info. on Malassezia, see my other posts.

[ 12-11-2014, 09:53 PM: Message edited by: Sonatina ]

--------------------
Please consult your physician before making any changes to your diet, medications, or supplements. I am not a healthcare professional and nothing I write should be construed as medical advice.

Posts: 166 | From USA | Registered: Dec 2014  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
lymenotlite
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 33166

Icon 1 posted      Profile for lymenotlite     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I recognize that I now always think that any symptom is about lyme. I certainly have had a lot of head symptoms but I believe that the bumps on the head were from using a shampoo that contained sodium hydroxide. It was a natural shampoo and the brand was Nature's Gate. I quit using it and the bumps went away. After awhile I used it again and the bumps reappeared.
Posts: 705 | From WA state | Registered: Jul 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
lpkayak
Honored Contributor (10K+ posts)
Member # 5230

Icon 1 posted      Profile for lpkayak     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Mine are always worse at full moon. I have more behind left ear on scalp than on top

--------------------
Lyme? Its complicated. Educate yourself.

Posts: 13712 | From new england | Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Catgirl
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 31149

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Catgirl     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Ditto Lp, worse at full moon--parasites.

--------------------
--Keep an open mind about everything. Also, remember to visit ACTIVISM (we can change things together).

Posts: 5418 | From earth | Registered: Mar 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code� is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | LymeNet home page | Privacy Statement

Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please send your donations to:

The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey
907 Pebble Creek Court, Pennington, NJ 08534 USA


| Flash Discussion | Support Groups | On-Line Library
Legal Resources | Medical Abstracts | Newsletter | Books
Pictures | Site Search | Links | Help/Questions
About LymeNet | Contact Us

© 1993-2020 The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
Use of the LymeNet Site is subject to Terms and Conditions.