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Just came across this in my studies - thought I'd post it since winter is coming.

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http://weeksmd.com/2009/11/anti-viral-h2o2-nebulizer-kit/

A Proven Cure For Every Flu virus

There�s been a lot in the news recently about the swine flu virus. And although I can�t tell you that I have treated a documented case of this particular virus, I can say that what I am going to tell you about has worked in every viral infection I have used it on to date. I�m talking about hydrogen peroxide therapy. But this is not your ordinary hydrogen peroxide therapy. That�s what�s different.

As you may already know, hydrogen peroxide has been used for decades to conquer viral infections by thousands of doctors in thousands of patients all over the world. It was discovered by an old colleague of mine, Dr. Charles Farr, close to thirty years ago.

Hydrogen peroxide consists of a water molecule (H2O) with an extra oxygen atom (H2O2). It is the extra oxygen atom that makes it so deadly for viruses. But in order for you to understand why hydrogen peroxide therapy works so well you have to understand what most people, including many doctors, fail to realize � viral infections are eradicated from the body not by killing the virus itself, but by killing the cells that produce them. Let me explain.

You see, viruses are not alive, so it is not possible to kill them. Viruses are just pieces of genetic code, and in and of themselves can neither survive nor reproduce. Viruses need to infect cells. It is in the interior of a cell that a virus is able to use the cell�s own DNA and RNA in order to reproduce. In other words, what a virus does to an infected cell is to control it and use it to manufacture new viruses, which in turn can move out of the cell and go and infect other cells. The way to control any viral infection is not to kill the virus, it is to kill the infected cells that have been turned into viral factories. And that�s just what that extra oxygen atom on hydrogen peroxide does.

Healthy cells, cells that are not infected by viruses, are equipped to handle the extra oxygen atom that comes with hydrogen peroxide because they have healthy anti-oxidant defense systems. But once they are infected with a virus, they lose much of their defensive capability, and are then easily destroyed by hydrogen peroxide.

Thanks to Charlie Farr I am not in the least concerned about the epidemic of any virus. Why should I be? Hydrogen peroxide has been shown to control every viral infection it�s been tested against. In fact hydrogen peroxide is so good it�s what God designed your immune cells to use to kill and control infections of all kinds. When your immune cells are busy killing the infected cells that make viruses, they make their own hydrogen peroxide to do it. And that�s basically how it works. Hydrogen peroxide therapy works by helping your immune cells do the job they were assigned.

There is, however, one serious flaw with using hydrogen peroxide to kill viral infections � it is inexpensive and un-patentable. That translates out to not profitable, and not profitable translates out to won�t be taught in medical schools. Nevertheless, regardless of this defect, it is a therapeutic slam dunk for viral infections of all kinds. I have never seen it fail. I have treated everything from flu to encephalitis to viral pneumonia, from influenza to hauta virus to West Nile virus all with the same result � the infection clears, and there are no side effects.

The only other problem with Dr. Farr�s therapy is that it is an intravenous therapy. Drinking it not only doesn�t work, it is dangerous. And as an intravenous therapy, that means that it needs to be done in a doctor�s office. But as long as you get into the clinic for an IV or two, you can literally knock out any viral infection you will ever get. And that brings me to something that I came upon a little over a year ago. A new way of administering hydrogen peroxide therapy that is almost as effective as the IV. And better than the IV method, this new treatment can be done at home, and is ridiculously cheap. It�s called nebulized hydrogen peroxide. And this is how I learned about it.

About a year ago I saw a patient with asthma who was taking the asthma medication that her doctor had been giving her in a nebulizer. A nebulizer is device that is able to convert a liquid into tiny bubbles. I mean really tiny bubbles. Bubbles that are so tiny that they can only be seen under a microscope. When these bubbles come out of the nebulizer, they are so small that they look just like smoke. And that�s the magic of a nebulizer.

The bubbles are so small that they can be inhaled deep down into the deepest regions of the lungs without any discomfort or irritation. It�s a great way for asthmatics to get the medication they need to open up their lungs. But there is something else about nebulizers that I had never considered before until I treated this particular patient. It�s an obvious thing, but then again, things are only obvious once you see them. I�m talking about the systemic effect of nebulizers. Let me explain.

When I asked the patient why she didn�t use the nebulizer treatments as often as she was supposed to, she said it was because of the side effects. And then she said something that really struck me. �Dr. Shallenberger, when I take the drug in the nebulizer it makes me feel the side effects just as bad as when the doctors were giving me the same drug intravenously in the hospital. It is unbelievably strong, and it affects my whole body.� You see, these tiny bubbles were not only delivering medicine to her lungs, they were also delivering the medicine to her entire body through her lungs. And they were delivering it in a way that was just as noticeable to her as when the same medication was given directly into her veins. And that�s when I had the thought. Why not use the nebulizer delivery system to deliver treatments not just to the lungs but to the whole body?

So I went to work, and began administering hydrogen peroxide to my patients through a nebulizer instead of intravenously. The first patient I used it on was me. I wasn�t sick at the time, but I just wanted to make sure that the mixture I used was the right concentration for the lungs. I found the treatment extremely easy to do, and very comfortable. It was just like breathing the purest air you could imagine, and it was in no way irritating.

And then I found my first guinea pig � my wife Judy. Judy learned long ago that one of the �blessings� of marrying me was that she would often have the privilege of being experimented on. And so when she developed the first symptoms of a flu, instead of immediately plugging her into a hydrogen peroxide IV, I had her use the nebulizer for ten minutes every waking hour. Actually, she was happy about this, because she has very small veins, and it is hard for the nurse to start IV�s on her. Using the nebulizer treatment, she was able to get rid of the flu within 72 hours. I knew I was on to something, because IV hydrogen peroxide doesn�t work much better than that. So I bought a dozen nebulizers and began offering the treatment to my patients.

Since then I have treated hundreds of cases of colds, flus, sinusitis, and bronchitis all with the same great results. And I found that the nebulizer treatments actually have an advantage over the IV therapy that I hadn�t considered at first. And that is, that not only is the hydrogen peroxide being disseminated into the entire body through the lungs, it is also going directly to the areas of the body that are most affected by viruses � the sinuses, throat, bronchial tract, and lungs. So here�s how you do it.

First, buy yourself a nebulizer. I am now convinced that not only should every family have a blood pressure cuff and a thermometer, but also a nebulizer. You can buy an inexpensive one that runs off AC or you can spend a little more and get a smaller, easy to carry around, battery operated portable nebulizer. One web site that sells these and has good prices is www.outpatientmd.com. You can also reach them by phone at 888-541-4440. They also sell the masks that are used with the nebulizer.

Next, we will supply you with the hydrogen peroxide solution. It�s a special mixture of pharmaceutical grade hydrogen peroxide, magnesium and manganese. When kept in the refrigerator, the formula will stay active for about three months. Sorry, it won�t keep indefinitely. That�s because the hydrogen peroxide will gradually convert into water over time. You can either just keep some on hand during the flu season, or have us send you some as soon as it appears you need it.

Just keep this in the fridge until you feel like you may be coming down with a virus. As with any viral treatment, to get the best results it is important to use the treatment as soon as possible. And that�s one of the other great advantages of the nebulizer treatment. If you start coming down with something on the weekend or a holiday, it�s not a problem � you can start treatment without having to wait until the clinic opens.

The treatments are simple. Just attach the delivery mask to the nebulizer output. Then add 3cc of the hydrogen peroxide mixture to the nebulizer, place the mask over your mouth and nose, and breathe. It�s as simple as that. You can literally do this as often as you feel you need to, but in most cases I recommend that patients do it every hour for the first day, and then 4-6 times a day until the infection is completely resolved. In most cases, if you start the treatment early enough, before it has gotten a stronghold, this will be in 2-4 days. This treatment can also be used on children and infants of all ages.

I honestly believe that having a nebulizer and the hydrogen peroxide treatment at home would be the end to your family ever having to miss work or school because of a viral illness.

Frank Shallenberger, M.D.

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http://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1873003#i

Dr. Frank Shallenberger's Real Cures. It is to be used to knock out any flu or Lung Problem with the use of a Nebulizer. The formula contains the following ingredients:

To a 250 cc bag of normal Saline ADD:
2.5 cc of pharmaceutical grade 3% Hydrogen Peroxide
5 cc of Manganese Sulfate
1 cc of Magnesium Sulfate

Keep mixture in refrigerator between uses
"The treatments are simple. Just attach the delivery mask to the nebulizer output. Then add 3cc of the hydrogen peroxide mixture to the nebulizer, place the mask over your mouth and nose, and breathe. It�s as simple as that.

You can literally do this as often as you feel you need to, but in most cases I recommend that patients do it every hour for the first day, and then 4-6 times a day until the infection is completely resolved.

In most cases, if you start the treatment early enough, before it has gotten a stronghold, this will be in 2-4 days. This treatment can also be used on children and infants of all ages."

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Thank you!!! love this article and will fax to my ND.
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Yeah, it seems pretty simple to have some of this prepared in advance in case you need it. It keeps for 3 months.

Some people use colloidal silver, too. I'll look for some info about that & post it later.

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where can you get the mixture?
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I think you have to get the components & mix it yourself. Just make sure everything is sterile & your hands are clean. I'm going to look into where the ingredients can be ordered. I'll post it later. I don't know if anyone sells it pre-mixed.
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I've been looking into this. Not all of the ingredients are easy to obtain. If there are any nurses or healthcare practitioners out there - can you PM me or let us know where to buy some of these ingredients?

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This is what I found out so far -

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Saline 0.9% 250 ml, Sodium Chloride, IV
by�Baxter of California

http://www.amazon.com/Saline-0-9%25-250-Sodium-Chloride/dp/B004YYLAQQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1348612688&sr=8-2&keywords=saline+bag

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004YYLAQQ/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

or -

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/BAXTER-Saline-3PWK2?cm_sp=IO-_-IDP-_-RR_VTV70300505&cm_vc=IDPRRZ1


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Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide

http://www.upayanaturals.com/Food_Grade_Hydrogen_Peroxide_460ml_35_Ultra_Pu_p/h2-460.htm

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http://www.amazon.com/Oz-Food-Grade-Hydrogen-Peroxide/dp/B0068KJZUC/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1348612975&sr=8-6&keywords=peroxide+food+grade


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Magnesium Sulfate
 (Technical Grade)
also known as Epsom salt

http://www.cqconcepts.com/chem_magnesiumsulfate.php

http://www.selfhealth.co.uk/epsom-salts-food-grade.html

http://www.saltworks.us/ultra-epsom-salt-wholesale.html?mkwid=sjx7Q2Rnk&pcrid=7341674282&gclid=CKjksobp0bICFYSo4Aod23cA0A

http://www.drugs.com/mtm/magnesium-sulfate.html

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Manganese Sulfate

http://www.nutrasanus.com/manganese.html

http://www.drugs.com/pro/manganese-sulfate-injection.html


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I believe that these preparations should be IV grade. I'm going to have to look around to see if they are available from some places that sell nebulizer formulas. I don't have time right now.

Just be careful that these things do not interact with any medications that you may be taking if you try this. Also, be sure everything is sterile & clean.

I'll post more when I have time. I have to do some other things now...

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Sparkle I think there may be some info at earth clinic on peroxide that you would find helpful .

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a few years ago, there was a man on tv who said he never got sick, he would dip his face in a bowl of hydrogen peroxide.....so breathing it in is safe??
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I think nebulizing it would be safe for most people but some people with asthma or specific lung problems may have some risks associated with nebulizing in general. I'm not a doctor - so I can't say what would be safe for everyone.

I'm going to try to make up this formula as best as I can. I thin it would be good to have it around for the potential flu season. The hydrogen peroxide is very diluted with the saline solution.

Please research it carefully for your self in any case. Nebulizing anything is like taking an IV. It goes right into the bloodstream. You need to be very careful with keeping everything sterile & using the proper ingredients.

I'm looking around to see if anyplace sells a premade solution like this. I'd rather buy it premade by someone with experience but I will try to do it myself if I can't find any place that sells it premade.

I have other things to do today but I will post any further findings.

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I would also like to buy it premaid rather then trust myself to make it. I will look around too.
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Thanks. If you find anything - please post it. My tooth is hurting alot. I have to get it pulled next week so I'm kind of tapped out at the moment.

I am very interested in this. I think there are other formulas that would be effective for using with a nebulizer, too - like colloidal silver, etc. You just need a drop or 2 in a tsp. of distilled water. I don't know if it's better to use a saline solution...?

It gets kind of complicated - there are different types of saline. Look on Wikipedia if you want more info about it.

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sparkle, if you want it sterile, all components must be sterile to start with. Then you must mix it together in a sterile environment with sterile technique.

You will most likely need to get this made for you from compounding pharmacy if you want to keep it in your fridge for 3mo.

If you really want do this at home, you will probably need an RX to get all sterile supplies. I know for sure that IV solutions are RX only.

Ideally sterile solution should be mixed under a pharmacy hood. If you are careful with sterile technique you could mix it and use it yourself immediately but you should not keep the solution. You would risk contamination and pathogenic growth.

Could you somehow contact this doctor that wrote the article and try to get the solution from him? That sounds much easier than making it yourself.

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Thanks sammy! I'm not sure if it's as critical with a nebulizer as with an IV. We breathe alot of stuff in the environment so it may be slightly different than an IV. I did find this article to make your own saline...

http://www.wisegeek.com/how-do-i-use-saline-in-a-nebulizer.htm

Also - How to clean the nebulizer-

http://www.seton.net/medical_services_and_programs/asthma_services/asthma_fact_sheets/how_to_use_and_care_for_your_nebulizer

http://ezinearticles.com/?Nebulizer-Equipment&id=5697854

Definitely don't want germs or mold to grow in the solution or nebulizer. I was thinking of contacting the doctor in the article. I'll try to do it soon. I'd like to have some of this on hand for flu season.

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An easier way is to take two drops of MMS every four hours once you start to get Flu symptoms.

This is not for someone with Lyme as the MMS will kill that also and cause a nasty herx.

I did this once when I got the Flu just prior to a vacation. I was not going to miss out so I worked out the minimum dosage and time for effectiveness. Fever goes up if you go longer than four hours.

The one thing that will not change Is the watery stool, as that is a result of the body flushing out the dead virus.

Hydrogen peroxide and MMS are both oxidizing treatments, so it does not surprise me that both would work for the Flu.

Again, if you have Lyme I would not try this.

Dan

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I'm not certain I trust myself mixing this on my own. Mot sure if anyone else would feel this way.

Saw this response in the comments section asking where to purchase the mixture:
Available at SafaLab 360-341-2303
Speak with Debbie

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I should have mentioned that using Hydrogen Peroxide as a Flu treatment would likely kill Lyme also. It is an oxidizer and and would likely have this effect.

Dan

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Thanks YinYang.

Yeah, anything we take, we should use caution. Lyme & the co-infections can be tricky. Always start slowly & be careful. Some people do have adverse effects from nebulizing from what I have read.

I tried MMS awhile ago. It was a bit too strong for me. I think it can be helpful. I wouldn't rule it out.

I did think of the oxidizing aspects. Probably not good to combine this with vitamin C - or take any anti-oxidants a few hours away from the treatment. I'm not a doctor, though.

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This type of thing has been circulating in e-mails for years now... along with the idea an onion (or similar) left on a plate in the room can "absorb" cold & flu bugs.
The latter is hogwash, though hydrogen peroxide solution Can be useful- but for Exteral Uses Only!!

(See: www snopes dot com slash medical slash homecure slash peroxide dot asp ....
& pay special attention to the 2 indented paragraphs, down towards the bottom!)

First off, the fact that leaving the cap off a bottle of peroxide reults in a diminished strength of H2O2, should clue you into the fact that if you finely spray- or "atomize"- a peroxide solution, much of the H2O2 will break down pretty quickly. Not mush left to do anything useful, besides raise low humidity levels.... in the winter, a problem indeed.
And since most folks pick up the cold & flu viruses off of surfaces, like gas pump handles and office & store-entryway doorknobs, "nebulizing" of household room air would be exceedingly ineffective.

As far as a "sure cure", there is no *CURE* for infuenza infection, or "the flu".
(A "cure" implies being able to get rid of the illness once it's contracted thru "treatment".)
And there probably never will be.

As far as those "Rhino" viruses? ... the source of most common colds? Again, our immune system has to do the "work". All We can do is help the immune system to do it's job. Fighting each new virus is a 'learning job' for our bodies.

Usually our bodies learn. Otherwise, it's often "out'a the gene pool!" ;-)~

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I don't know... there are alot of testimonials on the internet about it working for various health problems.

This is a similar technique & there are about 8 pages of testimonials - http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/hydrogen_peroxide_inhalation.html

Many of them are positive.

I think there could be a cure for the cold & flu. I don't know if this is it but I think it is possible. 100 years ago do you think people would have believed that there could be an internet? Not even that long, even - I had no idea something like this could exist in my own lifetime.

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