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sparkle7
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FYI -

Operation: Whole Foods Hidden Camera GMO Sting - Bait Organic, Switch to GMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR9H7NgOLBQ&feature=player_embedded#!

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I know alot of you are trying to avoid GMOs... Just beware.

http://www.naturalnews.com/037329_Whole_Foods_GMO_undercover_video.html

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big surprise the video was removed. shame on whole foods.
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things like this just make me want to give up

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Thanks for posting this Sparkle.

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This is a bit misleading. Not everything sold at Whole Foods is labeled organic. It is the other stuff that might have some soy or corn in the ingredients. Don't think there are enough organic foods to stock a whole supermarket. So, you still have to read labels if you want to avoid all GM.
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Join a co-op to get home-grown foods.

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AuntyLynn
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"This video has been removed because it violated YouTube's terms of service."

Does that mean it was a "set up?" A phoney?
Guess we'll never know!

Sparkle please tell me, exactly how there was any "bait and switch"??

Mike Adams, the Editor of this "Natural News" website, says the video showed filmers "interviewing" Whole Foods employees who made the claim that Whole Foods products are not GMO. The filmers claim this is a lie - when actually - it is not.

Allow me to educate you on this subject.

"Whole Foods Products" means the "365 BRAND" and IN FACT, Whole Foods administrators have PLEDGED (according to Jeffrey Smith and the Institute for Responsible Technology), to keep THEIR BRAND (365) "GMO Free."

Does that mean that nothing in their store ever includes any GMOs? Of course not! One would be hard-pressed to shop ANYwhere where none of the products contained GMOs, because they are so PERVASIVE. (In fact, Bear Naked Granola just got caught with its panties down last month when a third-party lab found that the soy in their cereals was 100% GMO!)

Now, if one will more carefully dissect the symantics in Mr. Adams's sensationalist article, we see that Adams has tried very hard to paint Whole Foods as a deceptive corporate entity ...

when in fact, it is much more likely that the words of a few employees have been carefully edited, so as to create a highly deceptive STORY! But since the video is no longer available, we can only assume that someone had a very good reason for asking You Tube to pull it.

Now, Mr. Adams credits "Organic Spies" with the production of the video. Organic spies for whom? Kroger? Safeway? Supervalu? Or any one of the dozens of other grocery concerns - who are passing off foods from China and Thailand as "healthy" - and whose stocks are trading at less than a QUARTER of the value of WFM?

See today's Supermarket Report:
http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=AP&date=20121009&id=15651774

Sorry but this smacks of sour grapes to me - while proving absolutely NOTHING!

Moreover, Mike Adams has charged that Whole Foods is in bed with Monsanto, because it sells GMOs (which is next to impossible NOT to do in the present market) ... and because "it doesn't support Prop 37."

Mr. Adams needs to check his facts.

The Institute for Responsible Technology sent out an email last month telling us that Whole Foods blasted a press release that it SUPPORTS the California Prop. 37 GMO labeling initiative, but that so far, it hasn't pledged any money to the cause. (I will search my emails for this.)

Adams also admits he has an axe to grind because Whole Foods executives declined an interview with his "two bit" website.

This tells me that Mike Adams is a complete incompetent as a writer and/or editor - if not a flaming idiot.

I'd love to know who did that video, and who threatened what to whom to have it taken down. I smell a defamation suit!

[ 10-09-2012, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: AuntyLynn ]

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The article was from NaturalNews.com. They sent it again the other day...

http://www.naturalnews.com/037467_Whole_Foods_marketing_fraud_GMO.html

I think they reposted a different video. I didn't have time to watch it.

I'm not a big fan of Infowars. The people who originally posted the video on YouTube were activists exposing general fraud in the food industry. They had a number of videos exposing other places where GMOs were being sold as organic & other things. I didn't watch every video they posted.

There's really no way for consumers to know if they are eating GMOs. They do not taste different than "regular" food. I have known of small health food stores that were selling non-organic as organic foods or gassed bananas as non-gassed. It happens. People want to make money...

It is also difficult to tell if foods are really organic or not. We don't test every food that we eat - so, there's no way of knowing.

I used to shop at Whole Foods alot. I don't think they are all that reputable. You have no way to know if the prepared food are organic or not. They are not a "paragon of virtue". Many large comglomerates have bought the smaller "health food" brands like Celestial Seasoning, Burt's Bees... So, they own both the GMO & "organic" markets.

Some products tout "organic" "natural", etc. & they may be organic but there always seems to be something suspect like canola oil in the ingredient list. You just have to be street smart & cautious.

I suggest reading God Science by PJ Langhoff -

http://www.allegorypress.com/books.html

Fourth in the series. A riveting and explosive expose on the history of Lyme disease and other diseases of the modern day, an intimate look at the history of biological warfare (biowarfare); GM foods, vaccines, epidemic illnesses; and an examination into the conspiracy theories surrounding Lyme disease and other illnesses.

Truly a memorable book that will leave everyone on the edge of their seats. You won't believe the information packed into this sizeable book....The origins of Lyme disease and the persons, places and industries that may be part of a paradigm of denial for a global epidemic.

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We have been exposed to these heinous things for a long time with or without out knowledge or consent. It's good to try to fight for pure food, air, water, etc. but we have to be realistic about where this is all coming from, why & for how long.

It's alot more complicated then sticking a lable on a package.

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Yeah, Adams' latest article (dated October 8th) is a major backpeddle ... he now grasps at straws to say that Whole Foods' advertising is deceptive, when it claims "all natural all the time."

Sorry to split hairs with the guy, but technically, the USDA has issued its scientific opinion that GMOs are "not significantly different" from their non-GMO counterparts. So he'd be hard-pressed to win any lawsuits there either.

Tried to post a comment to his website, but unfortunately, he uses Facebook as a signup, which I refuse to patronize.

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Sparkle -

All vegetables are gassed - with ethelene - a substance fruits and vegetables give off naturally as they ripen.

True, there is NO WAY to really tell if a food is GMO unless and until they are LABELED! Otherwise, buying U.S. CERTIFIED ORGANIC is your only guarantee.

Although, for my money ... I can pretty much tell with GMO sweetcorn. It's kernals are way too big, way too "mature" looking, and way too "crunchy." The GMO process increases the LIGNAN content of the plant, which makes it more "woody."

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I'm not a 100% followerer of Adams. He points out some beneficial stuff but he has his own agenda. I'm not a huge fan of Whole Foods, either. Alot of so called "health food" is just as processed as some of the regular supermarket food.

I'm all for labeling & organic foods but it's going to be difficult now. The genie is out of the bottle. Monsanto & the other companies are not going to stop experimenting with our food. They are already prepared to handle the backlash.

fyi - http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/05/19/bribery-on-us-lawmakers.aspx

I think there were some other articles on Mercola like this but I'd have to dig up the links.

It's worth fighting but it's not my fight. If I had children, I'd probably be more concerned. I don't have the answers. We do need to be more informed.

PJ Langhoff's book is extremely well researched. You might want to read it to get a view f the larger picture. It's about the size of the NYC telephone book... I'm only about 1/10th of the way through it. It's fascinating & disguesting at the same time. Very well written & researched.

Back in the 80s & 90s, they used to sell un-gassed bananas at some healthfood stores. I haven't seen them for a while. If the corn is dried & ground (& made into corn chips, grits, etc.) do you think most people could tell?

I think any movement for clean foods is about 50 years behind what is being planned. Alot of people sit around thinking all of this stuff going on is a bunch of "conspiracy theories" or "sci-fi". It's no joke & it's been going on for a long time.

If people continue to run around after the fact - the world is going to be a very different place. People need to be more pro-active. Whomever is coming up with all of these agendas has a long involved plan - probably for the next 500 to 1000 years.

They aren't fooling around. Most people don't even want to consider that there is collusion... It's too bad because it's too late to make them stop now.

Like I said - I don't know the answer... If the so-called first world countries try to ban this stuff - they are already prepared to go to the 3rd world. They are buying up land in Africa & South America.

Why do you think they created a huge seed vault in the arctic? There are alot of porous membranes between government, military, universities, & big business. Alot of this stuff goes back to the military...

Read God Medicine. It will blow your mind. I'm only a small way into it & it's an eye opening experience. I'm really glad Ms. Langhoff has gone to the trouble to document all of this. It's stuff I mostly knew but she sites numerous references with all the details, etc. It's worth the money if you really want to know.

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As sort of a tangent to this topic - this documentary was very good...

The End of Poverty?

http://www.theendofpoverty.com/synopsis.html

You can watch it for free on Hulu.com.

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Also - this is the article on Mercola I was looking for...

Will Congress Grant Biotech Companies Immunity from Federal Law?

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/08/16/biotech-companies-immunity-from-federal-law.aspx

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Well, the bill, if passed, might grant them immunity, but the law could still be challenged in court. Of course, the current composition of the Supreme Court will make that an iffy strategy.
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http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/05/19/bribery-on-us-lawmakers.aspx

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While many other nations are banning genetically engineered foods, and/or require such foods to be labeled, Monsanto's reach into the very heart of the U.S. regulatory agencies and political offices has ensured that most Americans are completely unaware of what they're eating, or the many dangers of genetically engineered crops to both the environment and animal and human health.

Contrary to other nations, certain U.S. states are actually passing legislation that protects the use of genetically engineered seeds and allows for their unabated expansion!

At present, no less than 14 states have passed such pro-industry legislation. Michigan's Senate Bill 777v , if passed, would make that 15.

The Michigan bill would prevent anti-GMO laws, and would remove the any authority that local governments may have to "adopt and enforce ordinances that prohibit or regulate the labeling, sale, storage, transportation, distribution, use, or planting of agricultural, vegetable, flower or forest tree seeds."

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