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Can someone post their Salt/C regimen? How much to start off on and how much and when to increase the dosage? I keep trying to find one but no such luck. I have sea salt and vitamin C. I am ready to go!
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gail says to start out with a 1/4 tsp of each, once
to 2 times a day in a glass of water, and of course
drink plain water as you go to keep you hydrated,
and some coconut water for electrolytes if you
want, and slowly increase from there according to
your herx, other wise shes the one to ask, i
think her screen name is glm111
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The most comprehensive source of info for Salt/C is a book by Marc Fett called "The Salt/C Plus Protocol for Lyme Infection.
You can purchase it for $30 at Amazon.
The author claims that he has seen Salt/C cure people from Lyme who had tried ABX and everything else under the sun to no avail.
For anyone who wants to do Salt/C, this book is well worth the price.
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Yes, Agree with chaps about the e-book.
Thanks derk for posting the info on salt/c. Important to ramp up slowly when doing salt/c. Lymestrategies forum is a very good forum for other alternatives as well.
Gael
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I wasn't referring to the e-book. The e-book was just an initial draft.
The large softcover book sold at Amazon for 30 bucks under the title I provided is much more substantial and comprehensive. It's got lots of good info about adjuncts in addition.
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Glm1111, Aside from taking it slow while ramping up, what detox methods did you use to make salt c more bearable.
Even a half a gram makes me very uncomfortable.
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I just started this salt/C three days ago. I am only at 1/4 teaspoon per day. But I am worried about the taste.
I can barely drink 1/4 teaspoon of each in 16 oz water because the taste wants to make me gag.
Are there other ways to take the Salt/C aside from mixing it in water and drinking it? Does it have to be taken that way, or
could one maybe put the salt in soup or other food and just drink water with C in it?
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debilyn,
You can put the salt in capsules and then take the C in capsule form also.
gigimac, you don't have to drink it all at once. You can sip it over time. Drink extra water along with it as well.
I also took antiparasitic herbs along with the salt/c to make it more effective. chaps, didn't know about the softcover book. That's good to know, Thanks.
Gael
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glm, I don't have a problem with drinking it or taking it, it's just that I have horrible herxes even at small amounts. I already drink lots of water, is there anything that helps you detox through the herx?
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gigi,
You might feel better if you do some warm water enemas to help get the dieoff out of your lower colon. The other thing you can do is to go even lower on the dose and don't take anymore salt/c until the herx calms down.
That's the best way to do salt/c so it's not so rough. Don't give up on it because if you are herxing that hard it means it is doing the job.
Gael
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Thanks, Gael, for your help. It is much appreciated.
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Your very welcome. Good Luck!
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Thanks Gael, I keep toying with the idea of giving up abx and trying to make salt c work.
If I could stop every time I herxed too bad and then restart I could probably manage it.
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gigi,
Your welcome. That's the best and most tolerable way to it. The theme for the salt/c protocol is PACE NOT RACE.
If you do give up abx, I would then incorporate antiparasitic herbs, digestive plant enzymes and extra cloves.
Good Luck
Gael
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I bought some Himilayan sea salt capsules @ Amazon months ago for this. Taking it this way may help some folks to get it down. I had no problems taking it, just ramp up, same with Vit. C.
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So it sounds like salt/c can be taken with abx, correct?
I think I need to spring the $30 and get the book.
I thought I read somewhere that you're not supposed to use/eat salt in other forms for cooking or in food while doing salt/c.
I just did Humaworm but want to continue the parasite treatment. Is salt/c enough to keep this going or should I add anything? I read through Dr. K that abx works best but I hate to add more abx!
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FamilyFive,
yes salt/c can be taken with abx. Please don't stop with only one mos of Humaworm. One mos is NEVER enough and has to be ongoing. Parastroy recommends 6 mos continuos.
When i hit a plateau, I combined Parastroy with Hanna Kroeger Wowmwood Combo, Extra cloves, Super Digestaway by Soloray plant enzymes and extra HCL. Dr. K. treats for parasites for a yr or longer.
Treatment for parasites has to be ongoing until symptom free and then maintenance forever. If just one egg is left over, the cycle will start all over again.
The salt kills bb and the cyst form as well. Good for you for ordering the book! Remember RAMP UP SLOWLY. Keep us posted.
P. S.
Using table salt even in food is NOT a good idea for anyone. You can use sea salt. Much better taste as well.
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Sherpa Pink gourmet salt from the San Francisco Bath Salt Company is a good choice. It's pure Himalayan salt and if you buy the 25lb. bag, it's cost effective.
It tastes great and it's great on food as well as on the protocol.
I was up to 9 grams of Salt/C a day and in a addition to that, I was salting my food as if it was going out of style. My blood pressure DROPPED from slightly high down into the normal range!
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Hey Gael, I'm not sold about the S/C protocol killing cyst form. I was on it for 6 mo, had gotten up to 9 grams per day and had to back off due to kidney discomfort. Right after that, I got walloped with the biggest fall Lyme flare that I've ever had, so I'm pretty well convinced that the S/C was throwing borrelia into cyst form.
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chaps,
It's not always the cyst form that causes a flare. Other pathogens such as parasites, bb, mycoplasma etc can cause a flare if not treated until symptom free.
If you stopped the salt/c and it was killing other pathogens and the bacteriocidal action stopped, it's akin to stopping abx midstream. The infections that are brewing can really flare.
Also doesn't mean that the salt/c was finished killing all the cysts. At any rate, I think the person that could answer that question the best would be Marc Fett at Lymestrategies
. Would be interesting to view his response if you're up to it.
Gael
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I'm excited to read the book and get started. I feel so cruddy recently... outside of my regular symptoms. An overall malaise I can't seem to get rid of which started over a month ago.
I'm adding coartem/artemisinin next week for babs and want to finish round 1 before I start salt/c. Doesn't salt/c help for babs too?
Do you think I should start the Parastroy before I change my abx routine (coartem)? I want to stabilize on each so I can track my herx's and symptoms.
You guys are great. Thanks so so much for the info!!!!
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Going with your intuition is best. I would finish the abx and then start the salt/c and Parastroy.
Salt/c has gotten rid of my babs and I have read others experiencing the same.I think the antiparasitic herbs I have taken have also worked.
Consider posing the salt/c questions to Marc at Lymestrategies for a more comprehensive answer.
Feel better,
Gael
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I emailed Marc about it. He said that the kidney pain can be expected and is part of killing the bugs in the kidneys.
He said to ease off the protocol but don't quit. Start ramping back up again.
But let me tell you, when you have kidney pain, it scares the hell out of you, so I stopped cold turkey to really identify if the Salt/C was causing it. After 2-3 weeks of no Salt/C, the kidney pain went away.
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Hey glm,
I did look into Salt/C back in early 2010 before getting in to see my first LLMD. I then stopped when the LLMD said not to self-medicate with anything other than his protocol. I stayed with him for only a year before moving on to a more agressive ILADS trained LLNP.
Anyway this week I started adding a teaspoon of sea salt in with my morning glass of warm water with a splash of Braggs ACV, and take a 1000mg tablet of Vit C.
I will be staying on my current ABX protocol of IV Rocephin, Mempron, Zith, Bactrim, and TindaMax while I ramp up Salt/C.
I get BP checked every week when PICC line dressing is changed and I'm on a low maintenance dose of Atenolol. BP has been running low compared to my past history
Is the tablet form of Vit C OK? and at the right dose?
I plan to ramp up this same dose to three times a day.
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Gael, what was your target dose on S/C?
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I didn't really have a target dose in mind when I started. I am only 5'3" and 115 lbs, but kept ramping up slowly unil I reached 20gms in divided doses through the day.
Everyone has to go according to what they can tolerate and feel comfortable with. Some people only go up to 12 gms a day and some I have read only do 5. It's an individual thing.
gmb,
The tabs are okay, but I prefer the powder because I think it circulates into the system better.
Gael
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chaps,
Great that you e-mailed Marc. He is very helpful. So, do you think you will go back to low dose, since Marc thinks the kidney pain is from the salt killing the infection in the kidney, and not because there is a problem with the salt hurting the kidney?
Gael
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Well, he described it as a kidney herx. I'm not averse to going back to the protocol but I'd almost have to start from the beginning again, which is a drag. In the meantime I've gotten more interested in MMS because it kills a lot of pathogens in the gut and it's the gut that's my biggest problem right now.
But yes, he thinks it's the salt killing stuff in the kidneys rather than the salt causing kidney damage. My bloodwork shows that my kidney numbers are great.
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I did MMS back when I did Dr. Robert Youngs alkalanizing program. Did'nt do much for me, but I think that's because I was so loaded with parasites and probably needed antiparasitics as well. Good luck with it. Be interested to know how you do on it.
If you ever do decide to go back on the salt/c, it shouldn't take that long to get up to a higher dose. You can even benefit at a low dose.
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Another thing happened to me while on Salt/C. I noticed that my testes became sensitive and started to ache.
I went to the urologist. He did an ultrasound and told me that I had epididymal cysts. The doc wanted to treat with abx, but I told him that I wanted to try rifing it with my Doug coil first.
So I sat on my coil and rifed with frx for candida, bart, babs, borrelia, viruses, and then the old reliable 727, 787, and 880 just for good measure.
I got the cysts to shrink. The doctor was surprised and then said, you don't need the abx.
It seemed however, that with sexual activity, they would become irritated again, so I had to curb sexual activity to about once a week.
This made it manageable, but I get concerned about the prostate when sexual activity is diminished because congestive prostatitis can occur. It's actually good for the prostate to change your oil/clear the pipes at least every other day if you know what I mean.
I talked to the doc about this and he said you have to try and see if you can build up your tolerance. This didn't make sense to me.
In any case, as soon as I stopped the Salt/C, I didn't get that irritation any more. And then when I thought back to when the whole thing started, it was right around the time I started Salt/C.
So my theory is that the salt/c made added more salinity to seminal fluid and it was the salty fluid that inflamed the epididymis and made the cysts bigger.
So that's another reason I've been a little gun-shy about going back.
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