Topic: HELP!!! ACTUAL PARASITES!!! I'm scared!!! (extreme TMI)
CD57
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I'm another one who wants to thank you Gael and Tammy and others for your persistence. It's definitely not falling on deaf ears! I am starting my parasite treatment in the next couple of days and hope to see some improvement as well. Years of abx etc have not helped me much at all.
I have always blown this off because I didn't have GI symptoms, well not bad ones anyway. Mine are all neuro . And I subscribed to the "parasites are only in 3rd world countries" theory as well. And I also didn't believe that they could block Lyme and co tx from being effective, because it didn't make scientific sense to me.
You will be glad to know that my LLMD is increasingly treating without even testing for parasites, and they are seeing improvement in some patients who could not get well. So the message IS getting out there.
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MannaMe
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Tammy, What are you doing to detox?
We are seeing my husbands LLMD today and want to ask about treating parasites......
We are hearing what you all are saying about parasites and thinking its time to go that route. He's been treating 1 1/2 years with some improvements.
Things have been slipping too much in the past month or so. Time to change something!
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Tammy N.
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CD57 and MannaMe - that's great to hear.
As far as detox - daily coffee enemas have been my biggest help. Can't say enough about them. Google them and you will see how amazing they are.
btw - I have NO GI symptoms....never even complained of a stomach ache. And when I say I was loaded with parasites, I mean loaded. I am still surprised by this.
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lax mom
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Guys believe me...just because people aren't posting on the parasite threads, they are still reading them.
Even though they mumble "whatever, that's just weird" under their breath.
They see the parasite symptom list and see most of their symptoms there.
The thought stays in the back of their mind...then, once they've been on every abx imaginable, seen the best LLMDs, etc with little improvement...that's when they start to realize "hey, i wonder if there is something to this parasite stuff?"
Then, like WPinVA said, that's when we try to muster up the courage.
That's exactly what happened to me. I remember about 2 months ago, I posted about crushing up 1 clove and eating it, thinking I was killing something
Then I tried a small child's dose of Humaworm...just testing out the parasite waters.
Now I'm on a full anti-parasitic regimine and actually making progress!
So parasite warriors, don't ever think your posts are falling on deaf ears.
Gael is right, repetition is key.
CD57: that's great that you will be starting anti-parasitics soon. Please let me know how you are doing.
Tammy N.
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Thanks lax mom.
It does remind me that I didn't pay much attention to Gael's posts for quite a while myself. I'm glad I finally listened. Now I'm trying to shout the message from the rooftops. Will keep at it. Thanks.
So glad to hear you are making progress! Just wait until you hit that next plateau. It's going to happen!! Then we can start a parasite choir.... we can all start singing the same tune. Haha.
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CD57
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Tammy/Gael, others, question: do you think that your symptoms were actually from parasites vs Lyme and coinfections, or just that treating parasites freed you up to address Lyme and co?
I don't really get it....all those infections are still there, but yet when the parasites are addresssed, the need to treat Lyme and co disappears?
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glm1111
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I personaly think the symptoms were caused by mostly parasites, but also the other infections, metals, yeast and toxins being released as well. Parasites cause most of the horrific pain. They invade the joints and migrate to the brain and other parts of the body.
Apparently, the parasites are protecting the bacteria, so when the parasites are killed off the bacteria is more open and easier to get at and kill.
That's why Dr. K. treats parasites FIRST, and Lyme and co SECOND. Like peeling an onion so to speak. For me, the antiparasitics and salt/c killed the other infections as well. Hope i am explaining it correctly.
Gael
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dbpei
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I often wonder if when we take all of the ABX to try and kill the bugs, we no longer have the good bacteria to attack the parasites like we did before - even if we take all kinds of good probiotics. So that could contribute to why so many are not getting better despite years of ABX.
Gael, I have been puzzled, though - about how the meds and herbs to treat parasites get to locations outside the gut - like the brain and lungs?
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Tammy N.
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CD - it's hard to say for sure, but I think my symptoms were mostly due to parasites.
What I thought was Bart (buzzing, tingling, numbness, etc.) has greatly diminished by just doing anti-parasitics. I haven't done anything recently specifically for Bart, and the symptoms are just about gone. Truly amazing.
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tammy, i may try this with just warm water 1st to see how it goes(even smelling freshly brewed coffee gets me wired).could you post your helpful tips here or in a pm to me.
thanks
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Any opinions of doing the Salt/C protocol along with ABX?
Thanks for keeping this important subject to our attention.
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glm1111
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dpbei,
I have often wondered the same thing about how the herbs treat infection outside the gut. It's probably the same way abx can kill a lung or ear infection outside the gut considering that the abx is swallowed and goes to the stomach and kills organisms in other parts of the body. Interesting isn't it? Maybe someone else can explain it better.
Gael
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glm1111
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The colon is inflammed BECAUSE of the parasite infection. When you get rid of the parasites, eggs and larva the inflammation will go away. The parasite tx makes it better not worse because a lot of these herbs are also antibacterial (cloves)and antifungal as well as antiparasitic.
Gael
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Lax Mom's results are so encouraging, that I want to try it.
Could any good LLMD deal with this?
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Tammy N.
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Talktel - no parasites treatment does not necessarily address biofilm.
For biofilm, I think Boluoke (lumbrokinase) and Cistus tea are best.
Great that you are going to speak with your doc. I hope he/she is open-minded. Any good LLMD should be willing to help with this. Even if they are not completely familiar, as long as they are willing to help oversee you, that's all it takes. Share with them meds that Dr. K recommends. Or even, just to start, start with something like Humaworm or Parastroy then slowly start adding salt/c.
Good luck.
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glm1111
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I had parasites come out floating in the toilet surrounded by biofilm. Some of the pictures at www.lymephotos.com are pictured with biofilm as noted in certain photos.
The person who owns the lymephotos site was only on salt/c. I was on antiparasitic herbs, digestive enzymes and salt/c, so maybe it does address the biofilms as it was attached to the parasites.
Gael
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