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amyb
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I've been seeing my LLMD for a few months

Found out Lyme not the issue but yeast, low vitamin D, extremely fatigued adrenal gland

Taking nystatin
Probiotics
cortisol
vitamin D

Sticking to strict yeast diet

I still have the same annoying sensation on my left side

Hard to explain , anxiety maybe

It goes from my foot to my fingers. I rub them on something rough to get rid of the feeling. Ugh ugh ugh [bonk]

Any thoughts - I'm thinking of a cleanse maybe to get rid of whatever is lingering [confused]

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Carol in PA
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This sounds like paresthesia.
You can read about it here.

Low magnesium can cause paresthesia, or you may be deficient in Vitamin B12.
Other things also, but these two are easy for you to supplement and see if the symptoms improve.

Look for sublingual Vitamin B12, methylcobalamine.
The B12 can be absorbed through the mucous membranes in the mouth.

Vitamin B12 is not absorbed in the stomach, but the stomach acid "tears it apart," and the parts are reassembled by enzymes lower in the small intestines, where they are then absorbed into the bloodstream.

Medications like antacids and proton pump inhibitors decrease the amount of stomach acid available to digest food, and one of the side effects of this is Vitamin B12 deficiency.


Low magnesium can also cause paresthesias, or odd sensations.
The Lyme bacteria live in the nerve cells and use up our magnesium.
All of our enzyme processes depend on magnesium, so a deficit causes problems.

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Thanks I will look into this. Its really my worse symptom. I have to pound on my foot or my hand to get relief etc. [Frown]

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Just rechecked my labs and B12 and Magnesium are fine

So frustrated

I feel like maybe it's the Nystatin :/

I didn't take it for a few days and the feeling was not so intense

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From Burrascano, page 6:

"Magnesium deficiency is very often present and quite severe. Hyperreflexia, muscle twitches, myocardial irritability, poor stamina and recurrent tight muscle spasms are clues to this deficiency. Magnesium is predominantly an intracellular ion, so blood level testing is of little value."

There is a special, very expensive blood test you can do to find out if your magnesium is low. But, it is cheaper and easier to just take Mag-Tab SR and see if you get relief. Burrascano says to take at least 2 per day. In a week, most people get improvement.

So, just want you to know that the regular blood test for magnesium levels is worthless. Most doctors do not know this.

Here are some quotes for you from the book "The Lyme Disease Solution."

"Magnesium Level: The usual serum magnesium level is of little value because the vast majority of magnesium is inside cells. Better tests would be red blood cell magnesium or ionized magnesium and these are the ones you should request. (page 121)

The recommended daily intake of magnesium for healthy people is 400 mg per day, but the sad reality is that the average American gets about half that amount per day.

The problem with blood testing is that the magnesium blood test should be done on the red blood cells and not the serum. This is because magnesium exists primarily inside of cells (intracellular, as in red blood cells) , and deficiency will not be detected in fluid outside of the cells (extracellular, as in serum or plasma) until a very profound deficiency exists. If you can afford it, the best, and also most expensive test is the blood "ionized" magnesium (performed by most large commercial labs).

If blood testing show low levels of magnesium and if kidney function is good, supplementation is highly recommended, in a dosage range of 400-1,000 mg per day." (page 267-68)

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You know, you'll have problems absorbing magnesium if your Vitamin D is low.
Blood tests for D can show that it's "normal," when when a higher level would help the person feel better.
You could try taking D3, and see if that helps.


Low magnesium causes many many symptoms, including anxiety, depression, panic attacks, headache, muscle twitches and spasms, heart palpitations, OCD.

The blood test for magnesium tests the level in the blood, not in the muscle and nerve cells.
So it may look good, even when you are deficient.


It's simpler to supplement magnesium with one of the forms that are easier to absorb, such as magnesium glycinate or one of the mag's that end in "-ate."
As your body absorbs it, some of your symptoms will improve.


Also, the liver needs magnesium to make glutathione, which it uses to neutralize poisons.
As your white blood cells kill Lyme bacteria in the bloodstream, your liver works harder to detox the poisons left behind, running short of magnesium in the process.

This is why you can develop herxheimer symptoms, and getting more magnesium should help.


You can eat foods high in magnesium, such as
dark chocolate,
almonds, almond butter,
beans, baked beans, refried beans, bean soup, bean burritoes.

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Thanks so much the feeling is so intense today [Frown]

I will start with magnesium tomorrow [Smile]

My LLMD suggested Mukta Vati for the feeling but I read its also for blood pressure and on my last visit my BP was low so I got nervous and stopped it

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I'd like to update my suggestion about taking sublingual B12.
The Vitamin B12 patches have come down in price since they were introduced, from $50 to $20.

iHerb.com isn't carrying them yet, but Amazon.com is, and there are a number of reviews so that you can compare brands.

Look at the moons on your fingernails.
If they are missing, this is a sign of B12 deficiency, from what I've read.


Could It Be B12?: An Epidemic of Misdiagnoses
http://www.amazon.com/Could-Be-B12-Epidemic-Misdiagnoses/dp/1884995691/

Read some of the reviews for this book.
A "normal" lab test may be leading you astray.


When you buy magnesium, look at the list of ingredients.
Do not get the magnesium oxide, as it's more difficult to absorb.
But it's cheap, so the manufacturers use it.

Look for magnesium glycinate, taurinate, citrate.
This one has several kinds:

Source Naturals, Ultra-Mag,
with magnesium citrate, taurinate, malate, glycinate and succinate.
http://www.iherb.com/Source-Naturals-Ultra-Mag-120-Tablets/1415


Natural Calm, Organic Sweet Lemon Flavor, 8 oz.
with Ionic magnesium citrate.
http://www.iherb.com/Peter-Gillham-s-Natural-Vitality-Natural-Calm-Organic-Sweet-Lemon-Flavor-8-oz-226-g/21268

16 oz.
http://www.iherb.com/Peter-Gillham-s-Natural-Vitality-Natural-Calm-The-Anti-Stress-Drink-Sweet-Lemon-Flavor-16-oz-453-g/5122


These are suggestions based on my experience.
I don't know what brands your local stores carry.

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Amy,
How are you doing?

Has the magnesium improved any of your symptoms?

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