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Tricky Tickey
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I just got a portable infrared sauna. I've been getting in it every night for 15 minutes, and it's hot! I was wondering if you guys had any luck with it.

I am not in treatment and have been in recovery for 2 years with minor issues occasionally. I've gained weight recently, have tried to alter my diet but I've gone up a whole size. Was hoping the sauna would help get the toxins out.

I don't sweat a lot, but drink lots of fluid. I do get sweat after a session, just not pouring out of me. I shower immediately afterwards then cleanse with organic lemon water. I just want to maintain a healthier immune system.

Any observations?

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ISSUES AFTER: Tendonitis, letter reversal, Low immune system.
PREVENTION:SaltC,Iodine,Humaworm,
Chiropractic.

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I am new to it (about 3 weeks so far) but I tend to stay in for 20 minutes. I takes about 10 minutes for me to start sweating, then I stay in for about 10 more minutes. At that point I can feel sweat on all areas.

I have heard it is good to replentish with trace minerals as they get lost when sweating.

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Sauna is a good tool, but it takes a lot more to reduce the toxic body burden. Some of the worst toxins (heavy metals) can only be detoxed in an acidic condition.
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I use a FIR sauna and think it really helps. I do know that I herx the next day if I stay in too long.
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I have had one for almost a year. I stay in 40 minutes now. Helps greatly with detox, pain and sleep.

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I am chemical sensitive and am very gradually losing this sensitivity, thx to FIR sauna detoxing!
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My calves start burning really bad while I'm in there, so I have to cut it off at 15 minutes. I wish I could stay in longer, but I end up putting a leg outside the zipper part. I think if I covered the calves of my legs, it may alleviate the burning, but common sense tells me that if it burns too bad, get out.

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Negative Igenex (IND & Pos Bands)
ISSUES AFTER: Tendonitis, letter reversal, Low immune system.
PREVENTION:SaltC,Iodine,Humaworm,
Chiropractic.

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I use mine once a week for 45 minutes and I think it helps with detox...feels good to sweat it out
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I can only use my infrared sauna 3 days a week when my port isn't accessed. It does feel good to sweat it out.

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There is a difference between far and near infrared.. Far isnt as hot and much more beneficial from what ive read.

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Not sure if I am the only one who had this, but when I used Infrared Sauna several times, it made me soooooo tired. For days I couldnt really walk.

Was it a good sign cos my immune system was cleaning up dying bacteria or was the heat just too much for my sick body? Dont know. But dont wanna risk it again.

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I'd like to hear more about this. Thinking of investing in one, but I don't want to waste my money if it does not help me.
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Tricky Tickey
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After using the sauna again last night, it created red splotches on my back and shoulders. It did not do that at first. This morning, I'm itching. My arms and jawline, scalp. Even my fingers itch. I think I'm going to shorten the time spent inside. This is the type I have:

http://www.healthandmed.com/p-2152-fir-real-portable-far-infrared-fir-sauna.aspx

I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but during the night, I woke up and my knuckles were really locked up and popping when I wiggled them, especially the left pinkie, which is double jointed. Also, my TMJ was off the wall....catching and hanging. Ugh!

One more thing I've noticed; my appetite has been cut since I started this. That's good.....as I've had quite a weight gain recently. It's all in the stomach and looks like a pregnancy, yikes!

Now I have to go to work. Rats.

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Currently doing acupuncture and yoga.
Negative Igenex (IND & Pos Bands)
ISSUES AFTER: Tendonitis, letter reversal, Low immune system.
PREVENTION:SaltC,Iodine,Humaworm,
Chiropractic.

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T.T., can you adjust the temperature so that the heat is milder? I would do that as well as reducing the time. Your goal should be to do some sweating, but not to exhaust yourself. Gradually your body will adjust, and as you remove more toxins, it will get easier.

I got a FIR sauna one year ago. At first I kept the temp fairly low, then gradually increased so that I was doing about 30 minutes at 125 degrees. I was able to sweat just fine at this temp. Now as the months have gone by I can tolerate higher temps so I'm usually at 135 degrees, but I still limit it to 30 minutes a day. If I try to do more, I will get really fatigued, like a backlash effect.

One way to start your body sweating better is to do a little exercise beforehand, if you are able. I don't mean strenuous or aerobic exercise, but just some movement and stretches.

Go gently!

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I can't adjust the heat setting....it just blows hot air. I sweat for about 5 minutes of the 15 minutes I'm in there. I can open it and let some hot air out, and that helps. I'm getting in it now, so I'm gonna experiment.

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Currently doing acupuncture and yoga.
Negative Igenex (IND & Pos Bands)
ISSUES AFTER: Tendonitis, letter reversal, Low immune system.
PREVENTION:SaltC,Iodine,Humaworm,
Chiropractic.

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I would think opening it to let some heat out should help you keep it at a more tolerable temp. If it's more comfortable, maybe you can stay in longer and sweat more, little by little.

My unit is wood with a thermostat but even so, I still have to crack the door open to keep it from overheating. That doesn't hurt anything.

As long as you are sweating some, you are making progress.

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I've ramped up my time in the sauna to nearly 20 minutes. It's all I can take, even venting the heat out. I checked the info on the sauna and it is 165-175 degrees. I do actually sweat in the last 10 minutes or so.

After I get out, I am red all over and itch. Even after I shower, I itch. Sometimes I'm still itching the next day. Seems also that after a session, my knuckles are sore. Go figure.....and joints ache the next day. Actually, my knees have been giving me a lot of low density pain (4) on a scale of 1-10.

Oh well, I'm going to keep going with it anyway. I can't find anything negative about it. I stay hydrated and have recently cut wheat from my diet. So maybe I'll start getting healthier.

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Currently doing acupuncture and yoga.
Negative Igenex (IND & Pos Bands)
ISSUES AFTER: Tendonitis, letter reversal, Low immune system.
PREVENTION:SaltC,Iodine,Humaworm,
Chiropractic.

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That is pretty hot. Not sure it is good to go that high.

I can adjust my temperature on mine and I never go over 125 degrees. Just increase my time in the sauna.

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Does anyone know of any studies on saunas to kill bacteria?

I've heard Lyme and other bacteria can't survive above a certain temperature that can be attained with a sauna.

I was just wondering about factual evidence or studies done on this (which confirms a reduced bacterial load).

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Tricky, I was thinking of getting a portable sauna similar to yours,mostly because it was the least expensive, and my budget is very tight.

Anyway the more I read the more I was concerned with the plastics that it is made of off gassing voc's.

The one you purchased is made of polypropylene and when I read about it on wikipedia it concerned me, especially since you've been having the itchiness when using it.

It may or may not have anything to do with it, but I thought I would mention it to you. Maybe it's toxins leaving the body, I really do not know enough about it and I have no experience using one, but I just wonder if it's a sensitivity to voc's.

Are you chemically sensitive at all? I know I am...hope thats not the case with you :-)

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Please be aware...

In severe heat stroke, there may be confused, hostile, or seemingly intoxicated behavior. Heart rate and respiration rate will increase (tachycardia and tachypnea) as blood pressure drops and the heart attempts to maintain adequate circulation.

The decrease in blood pressure can then cause blood vessels to contract reflexly, resulting in a pale or bluish skin color in advanced cases. Young children, in particular, may have seizures. Eventually, organ failure, unconsciousness and death will result.

Here is an article all should read.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/148098-what-are-the-dangers-of-a-sauna/

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This is how I use my portable fir dome sauna....

I wear thin clothes then put on the vinyl or rubber workout sweat suits over my clothes

I lay in my sauna with my head out and t
When I get too hot I put a portable fan on

I stay in for 30 minutes, sometimes more and am drenched when I get out. I then shower off and drink a lot of water

I feel the best when I use my sauna regularly. I have a tendency for low Bp so I am careful not to use too long or I feel very weak

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Trickey T--I just saw what you reported about the temperatures for that unit and it seems way too hot. No wonder you get symptoms!

There is a way to reduce the heat, by plugging it into an electrical device called a "rheostat". This is basically a kind of dimmer, that reduces the electrical flow.

These rheostats are used by greenhouse growers (who need to keep heat on their plants but not too much) and by farmers for incubators. They are also used with laboratory equipment. I think a basic one might be around $45.

The only caution would be to get one compatible with the amps/wattage of your unit. I am not an expert so I don't know what to tell you about that.

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sillia:
Thanks for suggesting that rheostat. Here is some of the product information on this little sauna:

Virtually 100% of the infrared emitted from the FIR-Real� heaters is far infrared between 4 and 14 �m, the beneficial range for humans. Includes two powerful 800 Watt ceramic heaters (1600 Watts total) Provides full FIR heat output in 1 minute (Not 10 minutes like most FIR saunas) Ideal Temperature Range, between 160�F to 175�F (70�C to 80�C), for activating blood and lymph circulation and metabolism Constant FIR emission Provides even distribution of heat

So that's the info I need when choosing a Rheostat. I found that venting helps a lot. I'm only staying in about 20 minutes....I would think that the heat itself, even without sweating, would be beneficial.

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Early Disseminated LD- 2010.
Currently doing acupuncture and yoga.
Negative Igenex (IND & Pos Bands)
ISSUES AFTER: Tendonitis, letter reversal, Low immune system.
PREVENTION:SaltC,Iodine,Humaworm,
Chiropractic.

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I hope you can get some techie advice on what rheostat to get. It occurs to me that another tech/hack solution might be to disconnect one of the heaters? So its output would be cut in half. I don't know if that's an option, but you'd need somebody who knows what they're doing to figure that out.
Good luck!

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sillia:
I solved the dilema! I unplugged 1 fan and it works out great.

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Currently doing acupuncture and yoga.
Negative Igenex (IND & Pos Bands)
ISSUES AFTER: Tendonitis, letter reversal, Low immune system.
PREVENTION:SaltC,Iodine,Humaworm,
Chiropractic.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tricky Tickey:
sillia:
I solved the dilema! I unplugged 1 fan and it works out great.

Yay! Good for you! I hope you are now happily sweating away, lol.

The sauna is one thing I wish I had started sooner in my treatment. It seemed like an extravagence to me, now I think of it as a necessity.

Good luck, hope you start feeling better!

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