randibear
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my doctor gave me a prescription, no refills, for vicodin. he said to cut it in fourths. so 1/4 of 500 is 125. i am only to use it when my pain gets so bad.
i can't take any acephetamin at all. i rarely ever use this but just have it on hand for when something happens.
i've tried alleve, ibuprophen, excedrin, advil,aspirin, you name it, i've had it.
is there something that works for you?
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Keebler
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- Of course, if pain is too bad (or even close) to being intolerable, that's not good and I'm all for comfort.
Still, if you can first figure out the CAUSE of the pain and adress it from that angle, you may have a better chance at it not taking over.
If you "can't take any acephetamin at all" vidodin is not something you should take as it contains acetaminophen.
Vicodin can also cause trouble with hearing.
Even in very low dose, how that can block glutathione in the whole body, (liver, lungs, etc.) is discussed here:
Topic: Looking for long term pain management -
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Keebler
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- MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY is a leading cause of pain, of all kinds.
- Much of this is from CarolinPA's posting history, combined with some of my own notes: ---------------------------
There are some good brand of liquid magnesium. Cardiovascular Research (brown glass bottle) is one.
If you buy liquid (anything) it's best in GLASS rather than plastic.
Magnesium citrate (as in NaturalCalm power you put in water) is best 3 x a day.
Some like magnesium glycinate better. Citrate and Glycinate have slightly different effects so if one causes too loose bowels, switch to the other form.
Never take the full day's dose of magnesium at one time as that can stress the kidneys. It should always be taken 2 - 3 times a day and,
yes, on a daily basis. Magnesium helps the liver, helps nerve fibers . . . and so much more. It's one of the best support supplements for lyme treatment.
You would take it to bowel tolerance, some take about 200 mg 3 x a day -- but many do better with up to 1,000 mg - or even 2,000 mg a day (especially those with neurological issues).
Take up to the point of loose bowels and then back down a bit.
Calcium and other minerals need to be in balance, too. Hopefully, your LLMD has advice on brands.
Carol in PA
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Randibear, if you have pain under your right ribs, that sounds like it's probably the liver.
Has taking pain meds helped it at all? Does using a heating pad help? Are your liver test results okay?
I think the SOTA Magnetic Pulser would help with some of the pain. I've used it on abdominal pain, joint pain, cramped muscles, with good results.
Applying castor oil packs to the liver area is less expensive, but messier. Castor oil is absorbed through the skin and reduces inflammation.
Supplements for the liver include Fish oil Magnesium CoEnzyme Q10 Acetyl l-carnitine Alpha lipoic acid Undenatured whey, for amino acids Milk thistle.
Whenever I take milk thistle, I get awful reflux, so I can't use it. But I haven't heard of anyone else having that problem.
I was sorry to hear that you had a bad reaction to the Epicor. It's so good for immunity...I wonder if your husband would be willing to try it.
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Have you tried neurontin? According to my LLNP pain meds usually don"t work on Lyme pain as the pin is coming from the nerve endings. Nruontin works well for this type of pain.
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Marz
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DLPA which is an amino acid and be bought in the health food store enhances opiates so that you can take less and get the same effect as a higher dose.
It has to be taken on an empty stomach or without protein though.
I take 1500mg of DLPA with half of a codeine 3. If I take a whole codeine, I get constipated.
It should work with vicodin too. Your RX would last longer that way and be less toxic to liver.
There is another combo of codeine without tylenol, but I dont remember what it is.
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lpkayak
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ibu 600mg 2-4 times a day works for me but i try to cut it down with fish ooil cuz the ibu makes reflux worse
in the beginning i took 800mg 4 times a day but now 600mg 2x a day
i also use neurontin as needed for nerve pain and skelaxin for muscle cramps and curcumin
vicodin does nothing for my pain...just make me feel so wierd i cant stand or drive or anything. i hate it.
ketorolac or torodol are prescription ibu and work for me but are bad for liver
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Ultram (tramadol) works good for nerve pain. It is a prescription medication.
This is one of the meds my lyme doc recommends for pain in lyme patients.
Just know that vicodin is constipating, so take something so that it doesn't give you this problem. Same with Ultram.
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Yes, vicodin was one of mine. I tried lots of pain meds, and basically rotated them, so as not to go up too high on any of them. When one got up too high, I dropped it out for awhile.
It's basically a question for pain med management docs, to go through the list with us to see what we can handle.
One of mine was meperidine.
You could also see whether you can handle MS Contin.
Just curious whether you've taken turmeric. I'm putting it in capsules and it's taking down my muscle and joint pain. Very simple, if it can work.
Re stopping constipation, drinking mangosteen juice does that.
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One of my worst symptoms has been joint pain, so I ended up on Vicodin for that. It helped my pain a lot, although I couldn't really do anything on it (despite building up some tolerance, it still makes me pretty dopey).
Pain meds seem to be a very personal, subjective thing, though. Ultram made me feel terrible, even though it's supposed to be more of a lightweight pain med than Vicodin. If you feel like it's not working for you for some reason, definitely keep trying things. Being in pain is terrible for your immune system!
I've also noticed it's not useful for nerve pain, so it may depend a lot on what is actually causing your pain.
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randibear
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because of my sensitivity to acetaphetamin, i think that's why he said "only in severe pain use this"....
apparently vicodin is given out like candy at some places.
i don't plan on taking anything for the pain. i'm on mag but it doesn't seem to be doing anything. a warm bath seems to help the most, that and moving around. it's when i stop that's the problem.
it's too cold to go to the lake and walk around. can't wait until it warms up.
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I am going to be Captain Obvious and point out something that I have not seen mentioned in this thread. Are you avoiding inflammatory foods and eating as healthy as possible to hopefully decrease the pain?
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Carol in PA
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quote:Originally posted by Marz: DLPA which is an amino acid and be bought in the health food store enhances opiates so that you can take less and get the same effect as a higher dose.
I looked up DLPA at iHerb.com and read reviews of the different brands. Some people are using it for analgesia with good results. It improves mood too.
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