LymeNet Home LymeNet Home Page LymeNet Flash Discussion LymeNet Support Group Database LymeNet Literature Library LymeNet Legal Resources LymeNet Medical & Scientific Abstract Database LymeNet Newsletter Home Page LymeNet Recommended Books LymeNet Tick Pictures Search The LymeNet Site LymeNet Links LymeNet Frequently Asked Questions About The Lyme Disease Network LymeNet Menu

LymeNet on Facebook

LymeNet on Twitter




The Lyme Disease Network receives a commission from Amazon.com for each purchase originating from this site.

When purchasing from Amazon.com, please
click here first.

Thank you.

LymeNet Flash Discussion
Dedicated to the Bachmann Family

LymeNet needs your help:
LymeNet 2020 fund drive


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations.

LymeNet Flash Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply
my profile | directory login | register | search | faq | forum home

  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» LymeNet Flash » Questions and Discussion » Medical Questions » Twitching ..Magnesium Doesn't Help

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Twitching ..Magnesium Doesn't Help
jessicabooklover
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 39427

Icon 1 posted      Profile for jessicabooklover     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hi everyone..I have been experiencing pretty significant full body twitching for quite some time now.

I have tried magnesium and b12 and the twitching has continued unabated. I am currently on IV Rocephin and Tindamax..anyone have significant twitching that eased over time, and if so what treatment(s) helped?

Thanks Jess

Posts: 870 | From ct | Registered: Nov 2012  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Ellen101
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 35432

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Ellen101     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
How much and what type of magnesium are you using?
Posts: 1750 | From United States | Registered: Dec 2011  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
faithful777
Moderator
Member # 22872

Icon 1 posted      Profile for faithful777     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I did. I upped the magnesium high enough to tolerance and I still twitched for a few weeks and then it started to slow down. I also do B12 injections.

Some times it felt like parkinsons but I believe it was herxing. I use flagyl which is a cyst buster like tindamax. It got a lot better with time.

I would tell my LLMD about it. You might just have to ride it out.

--------------------
Faithful

Just sharing my experience, I am not a doctor.

Posts: 2682 | From Colorado | Registered: Oct 2009  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Juliechoochoo
Junior Member
Member # 39671

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Juliechoochoo     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Symptoms are verbatum to my wife's symptoms eight years ago. I.V. magnesium at the ER would slow the full body spasms down but they always returned. I.V. valium at the ER would have a similar effect.

My wife was correctly diagnoised with Bartonella and prescribed Bactrim. Since Bactrim is a sulfa drug and my wife has a minor allergy to such drugs, she was advised to take over the counter Benadrill to midigate the minor allergic reaction to Bactrim. Spasms are long, long gone now but she still has some toe twitching. She is not cured.

Before Bartonella was diagnoised she took bottle after bottle of vallium without lasting relief to calm the spasms and keep her out of the ER. Before the valium she was going to the ER by ambulance at least once a week.

I feel so very sorry for all of you people suffering needlessly with tick borne diseases.

Posts: 6 | From Northeast | Registered: Dec 2012  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Carol in PA
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 5338

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Carol in PA     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Your body needs Vitamin D to absorb the magnesium.

Boron will help keep the kidneys from filtering out too much magnesium into the urine.


Zinc supplementation has been shown in various studies to be beneficial in the treatment of anorexia even in patients not suffering from zinc deficiency, by helping to increase weight gain.

Source:
Birmingham CL, Gritzner S (2006). "How does zinc supplementation benefit anorexia nervosa?". Eating and Weight Disorders 11 (4): e109�11. PMID 17272939.


I'm taking 5000 units of D3 daily, along with my fish oil, as D needs fats to be absorbed.
Boron is very inexpensive.

Aim for about 15 mg of zinc daily.

Posts: 6956 | From Lancaster, PA | Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Keebler
Honored Contributor (25K+ posts)
Member # 12673

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Keebler     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
-
TAURINE comes to my mind as possibly deficient (in light of your being vegan).

If taurine is deficient, it can cause some very serious damage to the nervous system (spasms, weakness) and vision issues, so find out exactly how much you are getting each day in the TPN or supplements.

Taurine is not stored or manufactured well by the body and is only in eggs, muscle meats and fish. Therefore, vegans must supplement.

I did not know this for the years when I followed a vegetarian diet. I wish I had.

CLA was also missing and that could have helped.
CLA is conjugated linoleic acid, mostly from GRASS FED BEEF - but you can find it as a supplement, too.

Since you don't take fish oil, be sure your OMEGA oils are in synch. Not all kinds of even the good vegetable oils contain all we need or in the right balance. And our nerve cells really need these good fats to help with signals to our muscles.
-

[ 02-07-2013, 04:01 AM: Message edited by: Keebler ]

Posts: 48021 | From Tree House | Registered: Jul 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
CD57
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 11749

Icon 1 posted      Profile for CD57     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Magnesium injections are the only thing that helps mine. The oral stuff just doesn't work.
Posts: 3528 | From US | Registered: Apr 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
annxyzz
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 20404

Icon 1 posted      Profile for annxyzz     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Ivermectin for parasites made a fast radical difference for me. I have taken it every other day for a year . I think parasites are a big part of our problems and almost totally ignored , which may explainwhy so many of us take ABX and meds and do not get well .

The herx from ivermectin was profound , which indicated it was targeting a pathogen involved with being sick or my "lyme" Dx .

Ivermectin / praziquantel combo has eliminated most twitching and asthma or breathing problems.

--------------------
annxyzz

Posts: 1178 | From East Texas | Registered: May 2009  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
glm1111
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 16556

Icon 1 posted      Profile for glm1111     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I totally agree with annxyzz, I have felt for a very long time that you need to treat for parasites.

I know you are going through a lot, but I really think the parasites are causing a lot of your problems. Has your doctor considered this approach at all?

P. S. It can def account for your gastropraresis and weight loss because they consume half of what you eat. The twitching is a big flag. Google parasite symptoms

Gael

--------------------
PARASITES/WORMS ARE NOW
RECOGNIZED AS THE NUMBER 1 CO-INFECTION IN LYME DISEASE BY ILADS*

Posts: 6418 | From philadelphia pa | Registered: Jul 2008  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Carol in PA
Frequent Contributor (5K+ posts)
Member # 5338

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Carol in PA     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Jessica has not posted in more than a day, which is unusual for her.

If anyone has her phone number, please call her and check on her.

Posts: 6956 | From Lancaster, PA | Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
jessicabooklover
LymeNet Contributor
Member # 39427

Icon 1 posted      Profile for jessicabooklover     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Hi Carol...I am here, thanks. My fiance and I traveled back to his home state of Maine and are bracing for the blizzard that is about to hit.

I have been pretty sick, hence my quiet. Thanks for the concern. Jess.

Posts: 870 | From ct | Registered: Nov 2012  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
'Kete-tracker
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 17189

Icon 1 posted      Profile for 'Kete-tracker     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Take some amino acid supplements (like taurine), make sure you're using a magnesium supplement that's appropriate.
Avoid magnesium stearate or magnesium oxide, or "magnesium/calcium" tablets.
For magnesium supplementing, I recommend magnesium chloride or Dr. B's favorite, magnesium L-lactate
(used in "Mag-tab SR" caplets from Niche Pharma., avail at Wally World).
Also, good natural sources of calcium are leafy greens like spinach.

I also recommend doing range-of-motion excercises every day, along with a quarter hour to eventually
1 hour of non-aerobic exercise every *other* day (build up as energy allows).

If the twitching's really bad, I'm suspecting that you might talk w/ your doc & consider a prescription "benzo"
(benzodiazepine) like Klonopin, but limit it's use as it is addictive.

You should also see the twitching slowly clear over the coming weeks with further abx treatment.
Good luck!

Posts: 1233 | From Dover, NH | Registered: Sep 2008  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
CD57
Frequent Contributor (1K+ posts)
Member # 11749

Icon 1 posted      Profile for CD57     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Annyzz are you still taking the Iver, how much every other day? I take a high dose once/week and don't think this is enough. My twitching has returned!
Posts: 3528 | From US | Registered: Apr 2007  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
   

Quick Reply
Message:

HTML is not enabled.
UBB Code� is enabled.

Instant Graemlins
   


Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:


Contact Us | LymeNet home page | Privacy Statement

Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.3


The Lyme Disease Network is a non-profit organization funded by individual donations. If you would like to support the Network and the LymeNet system of Web services, please send your donations to:

The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey
907 Pebble Creek Court, Pennington, NJ 08534 USA


| Flash Discussion | Support Groups | On-Line Library
Legal Resources | Medical Abstracts | Newsletter | Books
Pictures | Site Search | Links | Help/Questions
About LymeNet | Contact Us

© 1993-2020 The Lyme Disease Network of New Jersey, Inc.
All Rights Reserved.
Use of the LymeNet Site is subject to Terms and Conditions.