Caryn
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Zyprexa part starts way down. i started with a breif history that got really long. i am going to post this for now, but i am still writing/editing, i was just afraid of it timing out.
i first got very sick in 1991 on a trip to Nantucket Island. it went straight to my central nervous system and i just did not know what hit me. infected with babesia as well. my husband got it too, just a more mild infection. our daughter was a 9 mos old nursing baby, had the "summer flu" when we got home, pediatrition did not even want us to bring her in, told to just give her pedialite.
depression, anxiety that were not ever part of my personality before were first symptoms as well as insomnia and exhaustion. our daughter was extremely colicky for the first 6 mos. and my mother in law, whom we always knew had problems, proved to be more disturbed than we thought after our daughter was born and she put us thru hell.
we thought all this stress caused my symptoms and i went to the health food store instead of drs. also, our daughter lost interest in solid foods, and before the trip she was cutting down on nursing, she now wanted to nurse all of the time, what i thought was causing my exhaustion.
we returned to nantucket in 1993, just before i got pregnant with my son, because i was so "lyme-brain" by then, i could not think of anywhere else to go and remembered that that trip was the last time i was ever happy. i got another weird bite, but did not know it was a bullseye rash at the time. thought getting pregnant and having to eat more, after i had my child, i would feel super healthy again like i did after our daughter was born.
i was very wrong. our son was born with lyme, and obviously sick, but pediatrition kept telling me all his problems were normal, she sees lots of babies like my baby. sad thing is, even though she wrote an article about lyme for a parents magazine ( full of mistruths ) she was seeing lots of babies with congenital lyme. bucks county pa.
fast forward: two more infections locallly, '96 Brookside Swim Club, Yardley, PA., 1998, probably from my sunroom where mice got in to eat my garden seeds. went to upenn dr thinking i was going to the best. was near death now with extreme nerve pain, extreme insomnia, double vision, body stiff around the clock.....too many things to mention.
thought i had multi myeloma like my mother only at a younger age. did have lyme rash on my back but upenn dr "didn't need to look at it". people were telling me i had lyme, but upenn dr told me he was an expert in lyme, i did not have it ( before doing any tests ) proved i did not with the useless upenn lyme test ( neg of course ) only med offered was antideppressent although blood test showed speckled ANA which should have told this idiot i had something more than just "fibrmyalgia".
at healthfood store i ran into a nurse at my swimclub who had lyme and she told me i most definately had it, request LUAT test. upenn dr pretended to do LUAT test, did another urine test but did not tell me, did not do LUAT test, but had his office staff call me and tell me LUAT was neg for lyme. when another dr did LUAT for real, results were sky high! illegal, but he got away with it. and he almost killed me.
and he sent me to his collegue specialists friends who were abusive, made fun of me, didn't do real exams, put lies in my records and turned me into an emotional wreck to the point of becoming suicidal. the lies in my records, and upenn's rep at supposidly being a serious medical institution further hampered my abilities to get med care when i left upenn's "care".
the only reason why i did not die in upenn's care is the dr went on vacation and when i went back to office insisting i had a fever of 101 and had some kind of serious infection ( this was so obvious ), the dr there that day prescribed antibiotics for a nonexistent sinus infection (no congestion or other sinus symptoms) and also tried to push the antideppressents on me. without those antibiotics, i am convinced i would have died.
went to local dr reccomended to me by nurse from swimclub and another person. he looked both very sad and a bit scared when he examined me. gave me intructions for doing LUAT for real. when pos results came back, dx me and sent me on to abusive neuro who refused treatment after seeing upenn records, then to an ID specialist who dx highly infected with late stage lyme, promised to cure with IV abx.
got 4 weeks IV. very sick still , so got 2 weeks more. no one mentioned babesia or other co infections. bcbs personal choice refused further IV treatment despite obvious continued serious infection. ID specialist then throws tantrum at me, says Elisa neg for lyme, western blot neg for lyme (actually, later done at another lab, only Igg neg, Igm was CDC pos_ tosses my LUAT up in the air proclaiming it "useless" and tells me after 6 wks IV no one has lyme anymore and maybe i never had lyme to begin with, and intructs me to go to church and get down on my knees and pray!i was crying my eyes out the whole time he was screaming at me.
i was a young mother with two small children (both with lyme, one congenital, but still unbeknownst to me), am in horrific pain, you would not leave an animal in that much pain, but there are no human versions of the SPCA....hmmmm, maybe we should start one?! my husband sick also and so overworked trying to keep a roof over our heads. it was the twilight zone!
go back to dr that dx me. he no longer wants anything to do with me. just gives me a list with drs, most not covered by insurence and no way we could afford going to them. chose supposedly lyme lit neuro. he was nice to me, and admitted i did have lyme. but he did not treat. nothing even for symptoms other than neuronten for nerve pain that was totally useless. had me come back every 3 months. used me as research project.
did do PCR of my spinal fluid. came back pos. i am told that pos PCR's of spinal fluid are extremely rare. esp for that lab at that time. at around this time, my inlaws very trusted dr reccommended dr roger neiman, ID specialist, abington hospital. another joker. just agreed with upenn's dx even though he did not do an exam or even any blood work.
wrote in my records that dr that dx with lyme is no lyme expert although he thinks he is, also that a rash on my foot from 4 yrs earlier (which i had the reccurring rash on my foot at time of visit and later photographed) my possibly have been lyme, but since i had been treated and overtreated over and over, i most certainly did not have it now. and wrote that no dr ever saw the rash and she has no photos of it. later, when looking at family photos, saw that we unwittingly took photos of the textbook rashes on our visits to nantucket island.
nieman also, while putting down real lyme drs in an interview in a local newspaper article is quoted as saying he has never seen a patient with babesia, we just don't have it here. he saw me 6 mos earlier, gravely ill with repeated lyme and babesia infections, two infections from nantucket island where they have known since 1969 that babesia is prevalent on the island, they just don't warn the tourists. might scare them away!
my cousin sent me to a nice dr in south jersey who is good to go to for early infection, but not late stage as he takes insurence. after i showed receptionist pos PCR of my spinal fluid, she gasped and said they had never seen one of those come back pos before and asked permision to show to dr. ( this practice was called something like the cerebral palsy and lyme disease center?)
after he saw it, my appt changed to last one of day and dr spent a couple of hrs talking to me. asked me if i was happy with neuro i was seeing, and being like an alzhiemer patient at the time, and neuro was at least being nice and did not tell me i did not have lyme, i said i was. i really needed an advocate, my my husband and i were alone in this and clueless.
i did tell him my insurence refused to OK IV abx i was told were needed to treat my advanced case of lyme as indicated by the pos PCR of my spinal fluid. they refused to put in writing that they were denying me IV treatment, but month after month kept refusing to OK it claiming that they needed more information. my neuro said he sent them 20-something pages of my records. this kind dr told me it was illegal for them to deny a patient with a pos PCR of spinal fluid IV treatment.
so, with that, i did finally get 6 wks of IV abx. but without treatment for babesia i now know, i would not be cured. when i went to lyme support first meeting, there was someone from the LDA, and she was so shocked at my story and with my symptoms, she said i most def had babesia. but when i asked the neuro he would just say "it's so hard to tell between lyme and babeisa symptoms" and that was it. when i did have a PCR for babesia, it shocked me that it came back neg. of course they can be neg and you can still have it.
once i found the photo of me with lyme rash on nantucket, i realized my children had it too, and wether we had the money or not, they were going to see dr Jones, and i needed to see a real llmd.
first i went to an ID specialist who contacted my lyme support leader. he took insurence, but was supposed to be sympathetic to lyme patients. i think he mostly wanted to sell vitamins from his wife's shop ajoining the waiting rm. he did first start me on abx for lyme. then did a western blot for babesia at MDL. i could not afford the tests at Igenex. though i wished i could sue the drs that knowingly did harm to me so we could afford everything that we need.
i had dragged my husband to this dr also. a yr before, he had a summer stomach virus that brought back his encephalitis headaches where i had to take him to the ER where they dx dehydration. i knew he had lyme. he has symptoms i see, but he thinks he is OK. finnally he agreed to testing. to his surprise, but not shock, PCR was pos. dx doxycycline. he took it for two days, but then stopped. does not believe he is sick.
this dr started me out with abx for lyme. western blot for babesia came back robustly pos with pos bands on both Igg and Igm. MDL no longer does this test. without this pos test, i would not have gotten treatment for babesia. without treatment for babesia, i know that i would not have lived for very many more years.
this dr took me off abx for lyme, put me on - not mepron , but the cheaper drug that has mepron in it. but after researching on this site, learned i needed to be treated for both lyme and babs simultaniously. at this time i switched completely to a real llmd in nj.
i had started seeing her while seeing the ID specialist. i know she had me on high doses of augmentin. with the pos for babisia, i could now get treatment. i asked about adding mepron and zith for at least six months, and that is what we did.
OK finnally this is where the zyprexa part comes in
ZYPREXA PART -----------------------------------------------
i was in severe pain, so i was put on fentanyl patches starting with the lowest dose of course. i couldn't wait to fill the script. i imagined i would put on the patch, and within a half hr, the horrid pain would just melt away. did not happen. each month with increased the dose up to 100mg.
this was at least 2001, more likely 2002 and possibly later. wellbutrin had caused me to initially lose 5 pnds, and i was slender to begin with. i was still having serious problems sleeping. the dr prescribed zyprexa. i literally felt effects from it write away. this was early evening.
at 9 pm i went to go to bed. i always needed the room to be dark to sleep. in the dark, these wierd shapes began to take form. i also started hearing this odd and very disturbing music. these bright colored dome things with squiggly appendages hanging down started to appear one by one. they moved around in a somewhat disturbing way, but stayed up on the ceiling. the more of these things appeared, the more frantic the odd music got. then they aggressively attacked me and i turned and screamed and my husband raced in and turned on the light.
i told him what happened. he was very upset about this new symptom med. after i was calm, he turned out the light, but left the door open so light would come in the room. i did then go on to fall asleep.
next night, same thing. differnt halucination, but just as terrifying. now i had had musical halucinations from the lyme disease, but they were pleasant. hearing pleasant music from a radio when there was no radio there. usually if i was in a room with some sort of fan, like a bathroom, i would hear a Beatles song coming from the fan.
as far as visual halucinations, nothing like this. i did have things like, i would be reading a book, and it would be as though someone suddenly pulled the book farther away. nothing serious. i know these horrifying halucinations were induced by the zyprexa. kind of ironic, because the drug is intended for schizophrenics to stop the halucinations.
because it really did work for sleep, and a dr i trusted prescribed it and i assumed she had experience treating lyme symptoms with it, i continued to take it even though it was obvious it was this drug that was causing the extreme and frightening halucinations.
it also caused extreme weight gain. literally in just a matter of days, i put on 30 pnds. now it would have hurt me to gain ten or so pounds, but not 30. and all of it was around my middle. my hips stayed skinny, legs stayed skinny, arms stayed skinny, just fat around the middle, an unhealthy place to put on weight.
after putting on all that weight, i had to go on thyroid medication which i still need to take today. i gain weight very easily now, and it is very hard for me to lose weight.
the halucinations continued. i would be lying in bed. the door open to let in light. but i would see in the dark closet, wavy-like white cloudy start to move around, movement get a bit frantic, start to form into something, and suddenly there is a zombie and then it quickly lunges at me, causing me to turn and scream.
i couldn't sleep in my room anymore. i would sleep on the sofa in the living room. even out there, i would see skeletons dancing in the fireplace and hideous bugs. going into dark rooms, i see mini skeletons dancing from the ceiling. any dark space, even outside, i see all kinds of scary things in dark spaces.
sometimes, though not so much now, even staying where there is some light is no help. i close my eyes and there are all sorts of intrusive, very unpleasant visions. i can focus on seeing butterflys or flowers, but the ugly visions return. i hear scary voices wispering things in my ears. even though i was on it such a short time, these halucinations persists.
also, after all the weight came on, my periods, which had always been normal and like clockwork, suddenly were very light, sometimes only spotting, and not always ontime.
i had been doing very well with the aggressive lyme and babesia treatment. it really turned me around. it felt like there was a light at the end of the tunnel. even though the strong meds were hard on my stomach, even if i had to go off them for a short time, i could go back on.
but not with the extreme vomiting. now, because i had the fentanyl patches, and so anything having to do with nausea and vomiting, i automatically attributed to the patches and them pulling up from my skin, or water underneath or falling off without me knowing.
i have been wanting to write to my lyme dr in nj. i stopped going to her because i had to stop lyme/babs treatment because of the constant extreme vomiting and so i was only taking symptom meds and i could get that locally from my primary care dr in network so i could not afford going to my llmd just for symptom refills.
but i wanted to thank her for saving my life. i also wanted to tell her that i think zyprexa is an evil drug that did lasting damage to me in just the short time i took it so she knows the effects it can have and avoid prescribing it to others. i just have been so worn down by the yrs of extreme vomiting. and i seem to have no sense of time. i go out for what i think is just one hr and it ends up i am gone for five hrs. hrs turn into days, turn into weeks , turn into months.
so it has taken me this many yrs to get around to writing to her about zyprexa. before i wrote the letter, i wanted to do a search on zyprexa and see if others had the same experience i had with it. i was surprised to see there was a class action suit. i see i am definately not the only one with bad experience. i also learned that it did more damage to me that i realized.
i did have some nausea and lack of appitite from the babeisa. and all thru my pregnancy with my son, i thru up. some of it was due to acid reflux so bad i had this bolster thing on my bed to try to sit up sleeping because when i layed flat i would throw up. and sometimes from queasiness, but not this extreme wretching, and vomiting 20 plus times.
the nausea seem to stop after he was born other than when he was 13 weeks old. i did have to go to the ER because i could not stop throwing up but it was a one time thing.
this was serious wretching, and abdominal pain accompanied it. my lyme dr wanted me to see a GI specialist. i did go to the one her husband had been going to, but he was on the other end of NJ too far for me to drive so i did not follow up. i am afraid to go to just anyone because of my previous experiences with drs.
my husband is a wonderful man. he still opens the car door for me. i haven't had to clean the cat box since we were a couple. but like lots of men, he just does not want to deal with lyme disease. he won't go to lyme support, and he won't help me do research. he works so many hrs because i have not been able to work all of these yrs. i should have been getting social security at least, but i was unfairly denied, and because of the extreme and frequent vomiting, unable to pursue it.
i didn't sleep last nite, and am really starting to have trouble writing. but after doing a search on zyprexa, the vomiting and wretching and abdominal pain i now know were not from the fentanyl patches or the lyme or the babesia. it was from the zyprexa.
i have had to go to the ER when it gets really bad. first time, i told the ER dr it was from the fentanyl patches falling off. some drs have a major predjudice against pain meds. he was nice, but he took his time doing anyting to ease my discomfort (understatement). the ER was not busy and he spent quite a bit of time just chatting with the nurses while i am making these horrible wretching sounds, nothing in my stomach but still vomiting and horrible abdominal pains. now i know due to my damaged pancreas from zyprexa. this was back in 2005? i think.
he was nice in his demeanor when he finally got around to helping me. but then we got a bill for $1000 for a portion of the ER bill because he wrote the reason for the visit was opiate abuse! i was furious! i need pain meds. the pain was off the charts for yrs. you would not leave an animal in that condition especially yrs! you would give them medical care, or if you did not think they were worth it, at least humanely put them to sleep.
the fentanyl patches don't make me high. they don't even take away all the pain. sometimes it is not horrible, but other times, even with the patches, it is real bad. and my husband was actually just going to pay it.
that incident, i wasn't even sure if i should go the ER. i tried to call my cousin, but she was not home. when i later told her about this, she told me always, that if you think you should go to the ER, go to the ER!
when i could not get a hold of her, i called my husband. he was too far away on a job, so he called a friend to take me. on the way there, i was wretching and in such distress, i was actually crying for my mother. my mother died many yrs ago. our friend did not want to leave me alone at the hospital, but i told him it was ok to go. i knew he had to get back to his buisiness.
i used to have to drive with a plastic bag in my car. when i went for a sleep study way back then, all i was able to eat that day was a protien drink. on the hwy, on the way there, i had to throw up a little of it while driving and some got on my clothes.
the technicians at the sleep study wanted to reschedule, but i was so used to it, i told them it would be ok. i just drank lots of water when i was getting dressed, thru up the rest in my stomach and was ok for the night. it was so hard driving up there, i did not want to reschedule. i did not sleep that nite. results of sleep schedule was i do not sleep. was supposed to come back and take it after taking a sleeping pill, but it was too hard. lyme was hard enough without now having to be further hampered by damage done by meds that are suppose to help the symptoms!
my health seems to worsen in the winter and that is when i end up with abdominal pain so bad and vomiting so bad i relent and go to the ER. i think it was 4 yrs ago that they decided to admit me. they figured out the real dx was acute pancratitis. they asked it i were diabectic. no. if i had recently drank a lot of alcohol. no. asked about NSAIDs. i took a lot of them when first dx with lyme, but that was a long time ago. that wouldn't do it. i told them i had lyme and coinfections many years undiagnosed and gravely ill, but they said that would not cause pancreatitis.
but when i got home, i did do a search and there are a lot of people with lyme who do say they have pancreatitis as a result of thier lyme infection. were these people treated with zyprexa and like me just think the lyme infection or combination with coinfection caused pancreatitis or both? i know for certain now it was the zyprexa that damaged my pancreas and causes the bouts with acute pancreatitis.
for the last year, the halucinations and wretching and vomiting haven't been as bad. although i did throw up several days ago and i still see things form if i stare into the darkness. well, at least now i know what to tell the GI specialist and the cause being something known to them rather than related to lyme, i don't fear bad treatment as much. still prefer to find someone lyme lit.
and really, if i made it known to these drs that i have late stage chronic neurological lyme disease, shouldn't they have known enough to ask me if i were ever prescribed zyprexa off lable for symptoms? if they know excessive NSAIDs can trigger pancreratitis, than they should also be aware that zyprexa causes it too.
in addition to halucinations, damage to pancreas, menstrual disorder, i also noticed since taking it an empty feeling. joyless, lack of emotion feeling. also, hopelessness. i am terrified of dying, but sometimes terrified of living. maybe i am just traumatized. too many bad things happened.
my kids were still relatively young. we still had our rediculously expensive personal choice insurence. i was finally seeing a real lyme literate dr. i was really turning around. i was hopeful. then zyprexa.
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Wow. I know it must have been a really hard for you to try to get this down for us... but you have shared some important facts.
Many Lyme patients will be prescribed anti-depressants, SSRIs and even Antipsychotics (like Zyprexa). My Mom was secretly given this drug, even though she is an "elderly dementia patient." The FDA has issued a "black box warning" for Zyprexa that warns doctors that elderly people with DEMENTIA should NOT be given this drug!!!
Why? Because it can cause an "instant" stroke or heart attack, resulting in sudden death! (But docs continue to prescribe these antipsychotics "off label.")
Therefore, we should seriously grill any prescriber who thinks these antipsychotics might be appropriate for people with Lyme "brain fog"!
One of the tip-offs that led to my discovery that my mother was being given a "second generation" antipsychotic - she gained at LEAST 30, but probably more than 40 POUNDS, between my visits at Christmas and in early April! She looked awful with all that weight. Also, her EYES were GLASSY, and she sometimes looked as though she was having trouble with balance - as though her shoes were all wrong for her!
I had to file an emergency motion with the Court to get a "third party monitor" to look over the shoulder of Mom's quack neurologist (in Plymouth, MA!) - Who was, of course, hired by siblings who REFUSE to acknowledge the existence of chronic Lyme! (Mom had a positive spinal tap -but they think one month of IV abx MUST have cured it! Even though her short-term memory STILL SUCKS!)
By means of a court order, we got the Zyprexa reduced to the original 2.5 mg - but it took over a YEAR! But then Mom's quack started adding something called Remeron - and in the VERY FIRST MONTH she was given this drug ...suddenly Mom could no longer figure how to use a telephone! (But if you mention this to any of her health practitioners, it is brushed off as merely - "a symptom of her disease.")
Caryn, do you have any linsk to info about the class action suit? I'd be interested to see it.
Folks, DO NOT TAKE ANY ANTI-DEPRESSANTS, any BENZODIAZEPINES (Like Ativan), or any ANTIPSYCHOTICS unless you simply CAN NOT STAND your LIFE! (Even the SSRIs are questionable!)
They are a B*** to detox from, and the pharma/medical community KNOWS these drugs can CAUSE permanent brain damage! (Especially the Benzos!) Even when my Mom was first given Ativan, it was supposedly going to be a "short term" prescription - that got renewed again, and again, and again. Her kids started to see evidence of abuse, and were lucky enough to find a doc who agreed to help her. Unfortunately, when she was moved out of State, she got more of the "standard care." (!!!! i.e., "dope 'em until they stop complaining!")
Caryn, thanks so much for sharing your story. I HOPE you have started taking supplements that can help to heal your brain ... like Essential Fatty Acids to rebuild nerve cells, and Curcumin/Tumeric to reduce inflammation. I certainly hope you are working with an LLMD who is responsive to your needs.
I am not surprised to hear you think your problems started in Nantucket. That was where I got my very first tick bite over 40 years ago. My Mom was bitten in southeast RI (not far from Foxwoods) - but it is absolutely true that the Cape and the Islands are kicking sand over this problem, in an effort to save their touri$m.
Please do keep us posted on how you (and your little ones) are doing.
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lax mom
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When I first got sick, the Drs wanted me to have ECT for what they called "hypersedation"! SCARY!!!
I was sleepy all the time because my body was trying to fight off infection...I wasn't depressed.
Funny how you tell the Drs "but I'm not depressed" and they tell you that you are.
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lax mom - ECT? Please explain.
Yup. When the neuro quacks wanted to send my Mom to counseling to relieve her "anxiety" she insisted to her family that "I am NOT crazy!" She knew there had to be something physically wrong with her!
Just revisit the first few minutes of the movie "Under Our Skin."
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- Along the lines of what Caryn posts: I just stumbled upon this recently.
One could do a cross search of any Rx, of course. First author found that Benzodiazepines deplete approximately 50% of the glutathione - and that can cause so much trouble and increase toxicity and the stress or damage to liver.
That increased toxicity can cause all kinds of troubles, including psychiatric.
"Liver support" may help - or it may not. The drug is continuing decreasing glutathione so, even with liver support, it may be too much for the liver to try to keep ahead of the cycle and wear it out even moreso.
. . . XANAX . . . depletes the body of essential vitamins, minerals, melatonin and glutathione (the body's master antioxidant). . . .
. . . Benzodiazepines deplete approximately 50% of the glutathione from the white blood cells within five hours, and these cells defend our body from infection and foreign material.
This may explain why prolonged use of benzodiazepines can severely compromise our health. Dr. Jimmy Gutman describes Glutathione as �Food for the Immune System.�
Replenishing the body of critical Glutathione levels not only helps to improve immune function, but also allows the body to detoxify naturally. . .
. . . Xanax can cause severe drowsiness and difficulty breathing, which may be life- threatening. . . .
. . . Xanax can be dangerous for people with lung problems or breathing problems. Be sure to discuss any breathing or lung problems with your healthcare provider before taking Xanax. . . . -
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lax mom
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Oh my goodness Keebler! I have been on Klonopin off and on since 1999.
I've been taking it nightly since March of 2012..and my Glutathione is low.
In fact Glutathione is one of the only supplements that help me feel any better.
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I took Zyprexa for about 3 months. It is a horrendous drug.
It was given to me for insomnia because one of the side effects is drowsiness. This was right before the commercials on the class action started showing up. Very glad and lucky I discontinued it before any permanent damage was done.
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Zyprexa: Anatomy Of A Drug's Side Effects -
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Sorry you had to go through all this suffering, Caryn. It's awful. I hope you can get some help & support.
I posted about anti-depressants here a number of times. There was a huge, mega study about them basically saying that they are no better than going outside for a walk. Yet, there are such severe side effects.
The doctors don't want to deal with the complications of Lyme or Fbro or CFS, etc. so they prescribe anti-depressants. We really have to keep ourselves informed.
All of this is horrible & we may be ill but we have to study any drug that is prescribed to us. The people who are supposed to be protecting us from harmful substances are not.
I guess, people are ill & they want someone to believe in - so they think the drugs are good or helpful. In many cases it's the placebo effect.
Just because someone went to medical school doesn't mean they know everything. You really have to question what they tell you & be skeptical. I know it's hard if you are not well, running out of money or not getting enough support.
Anytime you get prescribed a drug - look it up on the internet & decide for yourself if it's really worth the risk.
I hope everyone finds a way to get well quickly.
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Among interesting articles in their current issue:
�Big Farma� Still Trying to Hide Their Dirty Secrets
Five states have introduced seven different �Ag-Gag bills� to silence people who try to expose CAFO practices. State-based Action Alerts!
A Natural, Inexpensive, Easily Accessible, Safer Treatment for Depression?
Not if pharmacists have their way! Action Alert!
Forbes Calls for �Re-institutionalizing� the Mentally Ill
Will that avoid mass shootings like Sandy Hook�or just put people on the very drugs that can make them homicidal? -
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Interesting about the "Big Farma" article. It hard to believe that "humans" are doing all of this. What are they thinking? Better yet - what are they eating?
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Also - the article - Forbes Calls for �Re-institutionalizing� the Mentally Ill - is pretty horrifying, too. Don't even ask me what I think about that...
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Wow Keebler, that is some really interesting stuff on the effect of benzodiazapines on glutathione and vitamins! No wonder people deteriorate on these anti-depressants!
Here is an EYE OPENING video from a FORMER PHARMA SALESWOMAN ... who wound up "taking her own medicine" while trying to deal with her divorce. She had a SEVERE Reaction to SSRIs ... and her shrink just kept adding ONE anti-depressant DRUG AFTER ANOTHER, until she was "a complete chemical basket case"!
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