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Sparkle, addressing KPU was HUGE aspect of my recovery and it still is. I started Core 4.5 months ago and the difference that I saw was amazing. Few weeks later I stopped testing for 80 % of the supplements, organ support, vitamins , etc...
Immediately after starting I felt much worse, but I expected that since Dr. K. warns people that worsening of the existing symptoms should be expected at first. But after 1 month, I went from feeling 70% to almost 100%.
Brussels told me so many times to concentrate on detox when doing photons, since killing with photons is very easy.
Until I treated KPU I didn't really understand the whole meaning of it. I did sauna, homeopathic detox remedies,enemas, etc... but it didn't make such a big difference.
Once I started Core I understood what she was talking about. When your body is not capable to detox properly (this was my case , It looks like I was severely mineral depleted - my body craves Core, I'm up to 9 capsules per day) it can't kill either. 3 weeks later I started Core, Babesia finally went dormant after 5 months of treatment I'm sure mineral deficiency was a big player.
My husband also takes Core , but he is not as severe as me, he only tests for 3 caps per day. I'm sure that most of us with chronic Lyme have KPU.
greenandhealthy.com offers Biopure products much cheaper, Core is 44$ for example. I just ordered it.
I also sometimes take Borax homeopathic, but I don't taste often for that. Actually after addressing KPU I take very few things. So even from a financial side it was amazing!!!!
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Just something to add for those on low budgets: consider taking loads of Diatomaceous earth.
I thought it was just for nails and hair first. Then I heard about parasite killing with it.
Later I am ONLY using it for detox (after cilantro / KPU, I use Depyrrol instead of Core). It's effect is not similar to chlorella, it is different, even faster, I find. It is a very good detoxifier.
I wanted to buy the microsilica here in Germany, but it is NOT anymore available for sale. That is why I turned into DE as it has silica in it (rich in silica) and gave it a try (after energy tests).
I use it NOT SIMULTANEOUSLY TO chlorella. They don't test good together, but separate, amazing.
I'm sure they are not totally equal in binding but they do bind things fast, both chlorella and DE. DE costs though just a fraction of the price.
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For the ones with difficulty to take chlorella, I did an homeopathic dilution of it, at first. It did help, I can't remember which dilution, something like D3, I think?
Green tea is also, in my opinion, grabbing many toxins (not as well as chlorella + DE though) too.
Green tea (I like Sencha or Gunpowder), in combination with other stuff, can even help against candida. Not a single treatment though.
Then add some cardamon in powder, it is very good, I find, probably even works as a cyst buster (my own guess for borrelia's cysts) and helps to clean candida toxins. I add to green tea or black tea.
Coffee is another detoxifier, but I didn't take it during lyme as it was too strong.
Another thing that helps detoxing amazingly well is ghee butter. No kidding, I swear by that. And it is used in India for detox purposes, taken in great amounts almost like fasting. Yes, butter used to CLEAN the body.
I use ghee for many years, and I do think it helps the body to detox many toxins, herxes etc. Plus it is delicious, I find, and can be used in cooking.
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Brussels couldn't agree more with DE, I had friend turn me onto it and I occasionally use it. Just look for the food grade version. I use cultured butter, its great source of vitamin k2 along with ghee -- either one is good.
I like rooibos tea instead of green tea. For me it tests better. I have two cups a day.
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Sorry Brussels & Anuta - I cleared out my PM box somewhat.
Yes, DE is interesting stuff. I don't understand how it can get rid of parasites since it's supposed to be dry to work...? I take it ocassionally, too. I was interested in the silica. If you look up Dr. Chris Shade - he makes products that have microsilica. I think that's where Dr. K gets his from. His company is called Quicksilver.
Be sure to get food grade DE. It's mined near places that also have talc & asbestos.
I've been interested in ghee for a long time. You can make it yourself, I believe. It the same thing as clarified butter. I mostly use regular butter & coconut oil or olive oil. Thanks for the reminder about it.
I'm going to think about trying the Core. Thanks for the info Anuta! Does anyone know if you can start it while still having a couple of mercury amalgums?
I had to have a tooth removed - so I have to wait for it to heal before getting any further dental work.
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quote:Originally posted by sparkle7: I had to have a tooth removed - so I have to wait for it to heal before getting any further dental work.
How long ago did you have the dental work done? You can use the LightWorks to reduce the swelling and help it to heal much more quickly.
Or use the Magnetic Pulser on the tooth and jaw area, which will also reduce swelling and promote healing. I used the Magnetic Pulser when I had a toothache, and the pain resolved.
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another cheap stuff, you can do yourself, and is also wonderful. Bear garlic tincture from root.
Just collect some in places that have a lot of bear garlic, in spring, I do it before flowers come, usually, wash and put in vodka.
Near my house, they grow in amazingly great amounts, people go get leaves for salads and pesto sauce.
It is very easy to prepare a tincture, you need one month (I leave two months) in a dark bottle, shake it every day.
It is AMAZING to clean the kidneys. It takes me about 2 hours of work a year (from collecting to washing and cutting the roots) and I use them the WHOLE year, specially in winter.
Leaves you can use for preparing a pesto sauce.
All onion family plants are excellent against cancer too. --------
Bob, what is cultured butter?
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Brussels -- Cultured butter is a eurpean style probiotic butter. It has the organisms added to it in the processing of it. The organisms convert any sugar something more digestible like yogurt -- the organism are probably a bit different to the different environment it grows in. We all know organism in natural food are superior to probiotic pills.
The cows if grass fed create vitamin k2 or activator-x which is the basis of much of the work of weston price. K2 helps to regulate calcium in the body. A good butter regulates calcium better and directs into the bones and I suspect catilage. One of the problems problems with lymies is unregulated calcium which affects the methylation of cells in the body. The calcium also becomes an inflamatory when free floating.
I'll eat sourdough bread loaded with a good butter. Gaining enzymes from the butter and the bread. It is a more natural way of supplementing probiotics and enzymes.
Besides, what is better than grass fed cultured butter or ghee. Got me!
Read the following link it will better explain grass fed and what cultured butter is all about.
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Sparkle I noticed recently some people posted on Ln that ART practitioners did't recommend to take Core until people had amalgam fillings. To be honest I don't understand WHY not?
What I personally would probably do, it is to order Core, and to test it energetically while you still have those fillings: can I take it? do I have to take t? is it beneficial for me? is it harmful for me? etc... Then you will know.
I love DE. I take 3 spoons in the morning and 3 spoons at night. It is great neurotoxin binder as well as heavy metal binder.
Thanks Brussels for great info on ghee. In Russia we used that all the time to cook, but I didn't know about it's detoxing properties. I want to try to make it myself.
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Yes, The LightWorks is very helpful for the tooth healing... & in general for pain. I'm concerned that there may have been bacteria or other pathogens under the tooth. The dentist gave me some abx. My gland on the other side of my face got a bit swollen & painful.
The tooth was dead, supposedly, since I was 8 (I'm 51). It didn't hurt but it was a bit discolored. The nerve was dead so I didn't feel any pain but there was a small sack underneath it that was removed... Who knows what was in there? Sorry - I don't mean to be too graphic but it's actually kind of interesting to me from a "science" point of view...
I did have a staph infection in my eye when I was 1 year old so it may have formed in my jaw at an early age. There are other pathogens associated with the jaw & the whole Weston Price thing...
fyi - if you are interested in this...
Identification of oral bacterial DNA in synovial fluid of patients with arthritis with native and failed prosthetic joints.
Anyway... Yes, I have to get more organized with the dowsing. I've gotten a bit lazy with it. Sometime, I feel that I lose objectivity with it or it seems too easy. Just some hang-ups I have to work out with myself.
I completely missed the parasites when I dowsed them many years ago. I think my subconscious did not want to recognize that they were there.It's not all that pleasant to think that you have bugs inside of you.
Any tips for how to be more objective about yourself? I know there are way to do "blinded" dowsing...
I did get a "yes" for starting the Core. I have to give it some thought. I don't think it actually chelates the metals. It helps the hemoglobin remove toxins more effectively - I think...?
It's probably better if you don't have more mercury entering the system, though.
Thanks for the great thread!
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Hey Bob, I suppose I already take then cultured butter as I'm im Europe!?!
No idea if most organic products are only done by grass fed milk.... I suppose not.
I'm buying now grass fed cow milk from neighbor farmer (direct from cow, non pasteurized) and preparing yoghurt from it.
It is more expensive, but it tastes MUCH better, not comparable to any commercially made yoghurt. It looks sometimes like butter, so thick it is. I can take the cream from it and almost spread on a bread, so thick this stuff is.
I saw once how to prepare butter, maybe I have to go into it??? Sort of lazy to wash all dishes later, but I may do it as an experiment!!!
The time I feel I'm loaded with floating heavy metals, I crave fats. And animal fats!
If I have no chlorella, DE around, bear garlic or MSM, I just take butter almost in spoonful (or ghee, literally one full spoon or 2 in a porridge or so). It could even be more, but then the taste gets stronger.
It is so yummy and I do feel it is cleaning my body from herx-like symptoms. I suppose eggs have some fat that also do the same, but I never can take enough eggs to lower these herxes. ----------
For energy testers, a help: another thing I take for years is galangal, in powder, in porridges or cooking. It was recommended by a practioner very close to dr. K.
Since then, it always tests good for all at home, and I suppose it also has cleaning properties, plus it warms the body.
My tests say it works on kidneys. If someone tests it, can you publish here?
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European milk is alot better than American... in general. I don't know what it is exactly. I've had raw milk here on ocassion & the regular store bought milk in Europe is so much better.
I don't know if it's different now but in France - they didn't pasturize it like they do here. It may be the same in other countries. I think they stopped allowing any milk products into the US that weren't pasturized to a specific amount. So much of French cheese was made with unpasturized milk... That's what made it so good.
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This is from my notes of a seminar of Dr. K. talking about milk almost ten years ago:
Unpasteurized milk. That�s a big one. Because pasteurizing milk makes it almost undigestible for most of us and not pasteurizing it is ---- from all the cows that we ever tested � they were infected with Lyme Disease. You are not going to find a single cow in the US without having Ehrlichiosis, Babesia and Lyme Disease. I tested through a friend, a vet, many cows. He could not find a single one that is not infected. So cow�s milk has Lyme Disease in it. If you pasteurize it, most of the Lyme bugs die, not all of them, some of them in cysts, and you get the Lyme cysts and they survive into you.
The insect bite that gave me Lyme in 1996 was feeding on a cow. I had 7 co-infections including Ehrlichiosis. I skip the raw milk - in fact I skip most things raw. Once is enough.
Breastfeeding is not safe either if mom is a carrier. Parasites are passed on in various ways, and most of us are carriers.
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Infection from all what is perceived as only tickborne ( a bit naive ) is inevitable. I believe everyone is infected, the body manages the disease for as long as it can before the chronicity of the disease takes over. Unless you want to live your life in a sterilized bubble maybe you could stay disease free. I always felt that was the case from Dr. Lida Mattman's research (ok to use her name -- she is a phd and doesn't see patients). The cyst form could be on a table and you could contract the cysts of disease through a simple touch. I know of whole families who get the disease but nobody else within their neighborhood. A father two children yet the mother is symptom free. Three of them getting a disease within a year. They discovered they had squirels in their attack. Is their a correlation? By the way, they all tested with the lyme and clinical bands and no known tick bites.
I believe you have to make the body stronger and a stronger fighter against the disease, not isolating your entire strategy to just kill the disease (which only marginally helps anyways -- once chronic).
As far as raw milk, butter, or anything else raw, I'll put my faith on the will to be well and on what is more digestible to provide strength to the body.
I believe in Dr. Bruce Liptons view, the biology of believe. I also believe in strengthening the body.
In a biology class a long time ago, I saw a test where they put 20 flies in a bottle. One of the flies lived several times longer then the other 19. What seperates that fly to live soooooo much longer.
We don't see or understand the ANS (autonomic nervouse system). We can only ask it questions through energetic tests. It works at the atomic level. Anyone who thinks they understand the ANS is kidding themselves.
Our ability to prosper and be well is based on the power the ANS wields to be well. The will to be well and the biology of belief may be more powerful then any remedies found on this site. If a pill could be given, doubling your will. Would you be well? What would the pill contain? What is the nature of placebo, is it the biology belief with the will to exercise it?
Does your body with will have the power to change lyme's DNA?
I remember when I first became chronic and I saw my doctor for the first time. He felt I would be one of those who would be well. What made him soooo sure. I know he separated me out in the very beginning. Dr Berascano could tell which patients would get well versus the ones who wouldn't. What did he see in one patient versus another.
I'm curious how strong ones will is compared to another to be well, lyme and coinfections. Maybe someone could find a double blind study on it.
In my treatment I stopped fighting an organism and believed I could just be supperior to it. I believe my ANS is better than it was and I can continue to evolve, even though I don't know what it is. And whether a cow has the issue, I don't care, if I have streptococcus aureus or lyme doesn't matter. Maybe some of my good health comes from a strong will to be well almost as strong as six's.
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Yes... I was thinking about this. I saw something where they tested Eskimos in a remote place & they all had minuscule amounts of all kinds of toxic chemicals in their bodies. We are never going to get away from it. We have to be able to learn to live with it - on a biological or psychological level.
All of our food has got to be contaminated with "stuff" to some degree - GMOs, parasites, pesticides... Even if it's organic.
The placebo effect is real - so what exactly does that mean. If someone drugged me with some LSD - I think I would start hallucinating, though.
I know with cancer - it's the fighters who get well. I'm often questioning authority... If you don't, you may actually die.
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lymie_in_md said, "I believe everyone is infected, the body manages the disease for as long as it can..."
Yes!
When �tzi, a 5000 year old mummy found in the Alps was examined, "DNA analysis also showed him at high risk of atherosclerosis, lactose intolerance, and the presence of the DNA sequence of Borrelia burgdorferi, making him the earliest known human with Lyme disease."
Mankind has lived with this for more than 5000 years. Lyme can cause symptoms of arthritis, and �tzi had tatoos on his back, knee, and ankles that "may have been related to pain relief treatments similar to acupressure or acupuncture."
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I also found borrelia in energetic tests in sheep milk. Unpasteurized.
I will still consume my raw cow milk (made into yoghurt). It tastes good, and it's alive, in all senses!!
We all know we are surrounded by living critters. Good and bad ones. They live within, on our skins and around us, and all veggies, meats whatever we eat. In insects, dogs, mice, all over literally.
How many critters were counted just on our TONGUES?? Hundreds to thousands, according to a Pubmed article!
Same as mold. Mold is part of nature. We lived with mold, developed with mold, why is that now, mold make us so sick?
Why is that now we fall so sick in contact with these critters?
there is the EMR theory, pollution theory, etc. With these stuff, I'm VERY concerned.
But I'm less and less concerned about pathogens themselves. As I said, my whole neighborhood gets bitten by ticks, I'm still to see one falling sick like we did.
Same for animals. Horses, cats, dogs, all these hens eating ticks and insects (and we consume their eggs), rabbits, goats....
I remember an American family who visited me: the lady was bitten once, had to be sent to emergency and remained sick for years with lyme since then. Just one bite did that, she said.
Her husband got hundreds of bites, he never fell sick. I tested both, and no borrelia nosode tested for him. Not even the highest nosodes, meaning, I find energetically no trace of contact with borrelia. He was an energetic man, looked pretty strong and healthy.
I now see lyme as a cold. Some people catch it, some don't.
The reason why, is the million dollar question. But it's not ONLY the pathogen that causes colds or lyme.
Borrelia, when it gets activated again (or newly infected), is reasonably easy to put back to dormant again with photons and nosodes.
At least, so far. It does not scare me anymore.
What is hard is to find out what to do to change the body so that it does not fall sick again, with lyme or any other chronic disease.
I feel that it is still preferable to eat live food (raw) than dead food (too cooked / pasteurized or processed).
After I read Buhner's book where he explained WHY roots and the whole plant are COVERED with beneficial bacteria, it makes more sense to eat raw foods.
The plants need the good bacteria, as our GI tract need the good probiotics, in order to keep infections at bay. Puting antibiotic in the soil make the roots unprotected and new infections can take place and make the plant sick.
he compared that to the human GI tract. I find it is interesting that plants and animals do allow colonization of bacteria for protective reasons.
A 'clean' place, without bacteria, in his words, is bad for the root. It will rot more easily.
More and more studies show that the cleaner the environment (sterilized), the more allergies one get. The immune system need some dirt, bacteria, etc in order to function properly.
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I agree Sparkle, you can't let your surroundings defeat you. Carol is there any reason why science would want to know of the infection rate?
How to measure will power: check out the article from the NY Times, reminds me of the walkers on this site, despite the issues of the dissease they try to discipline themselves to do more.
These article are widely being discussed. The implication is when to exercise willpower and when not to. And in a way, how to supplement it if it is associated to glucose levels. If glucose is sugar, is it being stolen from our cells by pathogenic organisms lowering our resolve and will power?
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I suspect that �tzi�s "Lyme Disease" is not the same as modern Lyme... I've always questioned why they associate the 5000 year old man with Lyme. Call me a nut but I don't think it's the same.
�tzi�s genome also hints at other health problems: Zink�s team found almost two-thirds of the genome of Borrelia borgdorferi, a bacterium that causes Lyme disease.
Zink found no other telltale signs of Lyme disease in �tzi�s preserved tissues, but he speculates that tattoos on the iceman�s spine and ankles and behind his right knee could have been an attempt to treat the joint pain that occurs when the condition goes untreated.
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The analysis of the tattoos is all speculative...
"almost two-thirds of the genome of Borrelia borgdorferi"
is not the same Lyme as people started getting in CT since the 1970s.
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Bob - I'll look at your links later. They seem very interesting.
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Quote from Sparkle's link:
Zink�s team also discovered gene variants linked to hardened arteries, which could help to account for calcium deposits found in scans. �He wasn�t obese, he was very active, he doesn�t have strong risk factors for developing calcification of his heart,� says Zink. �Perhaps he developed this due to a genetic predisposition.�
. From what I have deduced, calcification of the heart arteries happens when the body is deficient in magnesium, and also when it has systemic (bodywide) inflammation.
These conditions are caused by Lyme Disease.
I think this is the reason so many people develop atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries) and have heart attacks.
Both of my parents had heart attacks (which they survived) and previous to that had many symptoms that I strongly suspect were due to Lyme.
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I found a light therapy that makes quite a bit of sense to me. It's called intranasal light therapy. It's not a replacement to the PE1 or bionic 880, instead an interesting adjunct to it. I really like the approach because of the proximity of the light to the blood vessels, your essentially saturating light to these vessels while it is operating. I also like it, because it is under 400 dollars and more affordable to many more folks. Check out the following video and do a little research, there are many more products than the one in the video.
Other things besides Lyme cause hardened arteries, Carol. If 1/3 of the genome is missing - it's not exactly Borrelia borgdorferi. I don't know why they keep mentioning this in articles. It might be related to other spirochetes like syphilis or Leptospirosis... Why don't they mention these other diseases? Why is it always Lyme Disease?
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The difference between the intranasal and the arrays is the led is inserted into your nose pointed directly at the pineal gland. Also the proximity to a huge network of blood vessels. The issue with LEDs is the depth of light into tissue. There is no depth where these vessels are located. You are guaranteed to deliver an enourmous amount of light into the body given the location.
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I'd have to study it further. I think one of the intranasal devices was a low level laser. You could also expose under the tongue. I believe some people were doing that for AIDS with UV light.
Inside the wrists are a good option, too.
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Bob, I googled intranasal light therapy. Yikes, the price they're charging for a little LED unit!
Yes, I can see that getting the LED light close to the pineal gland would help, but the 880 wavelength penetrates five inches, so wouldn't using the LightWorks on the face and forehead do the same thing?
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I couldn't understand the price. It's a single bulb. I do like the idea of it though. The price is a little strange when you consider you could just take a light works or pe1 or bionic and just shine through the nostrils.
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Just wanted to share this news because I think it is interesting:
The holistic clinic we go to uses photon therapy using remedy based photon frequencies.
Recently a MD from another Canadian city has decided to do a 12 patient study on 12 of his lyme patients who have not improved on ABX. They will be using a photon device like the one we use.
I'm very interested to see what kind of results are seen from this study.
Also interesting is that the clinic we use is now treating almost exclusively lyme patients.
I'lll keep you all posted of the studies results.
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