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KWS731
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Hi all,

For the past few months, my dentist has suggested that I get a root canal for one tooth that has pretty severe heat/cold sensitivity. It wasn't until the past couple of days that I started to feel a very dull pain with it, too.

That said, I don't know if the pain is related to the tooth itself, or if it's Lyme-related. I know that dental pain can be a symptom.

I'm currently on Cefuroxime from my LLMD (been on the med for four weeks now) & I want to see if anyone has input on root canals. I've read that it can problematic for Lyme patients?

thanks,
K

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steve1906
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It could be a herx reaction to the Cefuroxime.

I've had many (teeth problems) with lyme, and contiue too. Cefuroxime can cause many mouth related problems.

Read this link below.

http://www.drugs.com/sfx/cefuroxime-side-effects.html

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Tammy N.
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Do a search here on Lymenet on root canals. I would avoid it at all costs. It can keep you from getting well.

Try oil pulling. This is an amazing therapy with great benefits. (oilpulling.com has good info.)

Best to you.

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Brushing teeth with MMS is very beneficial. You can find how many drops to use and quantity of distilled water to use for the rinse on one of the many websites. www.jimhumble.biz

More info about the rinse is in the latest Jim Humble book.

Root canals are done on dead teeth and keeping a dead body part causes untold problems. Do some reading on the subject - "Root Canal Cover-Up" is one book I read too late.

Take care.

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@Steve: thanks, yeah, I think I might be herxing. Was really bad this past weekend. But this is the first time I've had mouth pain like this, even after being on this abx for four weeks.

@Tammy: oil pulling sounds like a pretty good alternative (might even help with the consistent inflammation in my gums!). Thanks!

@Gigi: so the Meinig book is an argument against root canals? Basically arguing that the tooth is preserved & harbors bacteria?

I've had one other root canal in the past, years ago, before I knew of the Lyme infection. It might've even been before I was infected.

That said, this new root canal is supposedly going to correct a really deep filling that I had as a teenager, one that comes very close to the nerves.

But for the past few days this pain has become worse & worse. If this is a herx, I'm wondering why the only part of my mouth that hurts is the tooth that my dentist has been watching for a year or more :-/

Thoughts? Follow up with the dentist to make sure there's no other infection? I'm at a loss, & this pain isn't getting better.

Thanks,
K

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Root canals leave a dead tooth in your mouth. This is a place where microbes move in (Lyme, parasites, protozoa, viruses, bacteria, etc). The body does not want anything dead to remain. It always leads to disease (according to highly acclaimed sources). Gigi has posted extensively on this.

Also, root canals don't just cause problems in the mouth. If you follow the Chinese meridian charts, each tooth is related to a different organ system.

I would strongly suggest getting to a very good BIOLOGICAL dentist. They are way more knowledgeable than traditional dentists. They consider the whole body and all the implications when dealing with your dental issues. For those of us with these chronic conditions we have, I think it is a must to see a biological dentist.

Best to you.

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have thetooth pulled if it truly needs a root canal, i just had an old root canal tooth pulled out, the root canaled tooth was strting to allow the bone it was embeded in to die, luckely i had the tooth pulled soon enough that the jaw bone is not dead and will heal.
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i totally agree with gigi and tammy, mine was also infected even though i dis not know it, i am happy to have it out
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I was well on my way to getting root canals due to clenching my teeth at night. I did this for 10 years. My teeth became very sensitive to hot, cold and air. My dentist gave me some sensodyne and a mouth guard (helped for a little while).

It wasn't until after I began treating parasites that I noticed my tooth pain quickly started to improve. My jaw clenching went from daily/nightly down to hardly at all. Now I only clench a tiny bit sometimes around full moons.

This parasite issue is real, and treatment is definitely worth trying to avoid root canals.

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http://tuberose.com/Root_Canals.html

And try not to replace the lost tooth with a bridge to the surrounding teeth. The teeth being used and cut down to accommodate a bridge eventually die also and that will cause another lost tooth/teeth.

Root Canals, though dead, produce thioether/mercaptan, which is one of the most carcinogenic substances known.


To replace the lost tooth, a partial of sound material is the best way to go.

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Well, the tooth is in the way back, so I wouldn't necessarily miss it. Thanks for the input, everyone. I'm going to see my regular dentist today (the pain in my jaw is getting out of hand & I want someone to look at it), but I'm leaning toward NOT getting this root canal & instead visiting a biological dentist.

I wouldn't even care if the tooth is replaced with a bridge or a partial or anything. I just want to be rid of it.

& Maya, you said that you had an old root canal tooth pulled? Maybe I should consider that, too. It's been about ten years now..

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If I were you, I'd get the tooth pulled by a biological dentist...

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I've got an appointment tomorrow to make sure that it's this one tooth that's been acting up, & not my jaw muscles.

Razzle, if I could get this endodontist to pull the tooth, wouldn't that be sufficient? Or should I pursue a bio dentist?

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I would do a bio dentist because they would know best how to collapse the socket so you don't end up with a hold that doesn't heal property (and become a cavitation).

Also, most bio dentists use ozone, which is such a great tool during procures like this.

Good luck!

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Yes, yes...ditto what Tammy said!

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As luck would have it, I ended up seeing an endodontist today who also has a separate practice as a bio dentist.

She was trying to convince me that the root canal would be a fine idea, but also said that she wasn't aware of the potential impact on patients with chronic lyme, so she advised me to do my homework & make a decision by next week.

She said it was a good thing I was already on Cefuroxime. Hah. They're not doubling up on the abx (they wanted to give me amoxicillin) but does anyone out there have any input on this?

Also, I asked my LLMD (Dr. G, NJ) what she thought about a root canal. She said she'd never heard of any issues for lyme patients.

I was already thinking about finding a new LLMD, but if anyone has any feedback on her, too, please send me a PM. I'd like to hear as much feedback on her as I can.

Thanks everyone, you're truly great!

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Have heard unfavorable things about your doc. My friend brought her terribly sick child to her and was beyond disappointed at the interactions. She ended up, wisely, taking her child to the great Dr. J.

Sorry to be so bold, but I would find another LLMD. The fact that she is unaware of the dental connection is a biggie.

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I had a root canal then two weeks later my symptoms of lymee started...
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