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also curious about this. Is there any test at all that can show it?
Ivermectin?
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Treat parasites seriously and longterm with whatever method you deem right for you. You will eventually get to the lungworm. Even ascaris ends up in the lung. Look at some parasite charts to learn how they move from one organ to the next.
Every one of the meds of the lungworm protocol has its purpose to address the different areas where the parasites, including the lungworm if that is what you suspect hides out. Look at some of the links I posted under the MMS thread that is moving along here -- .
Ivermectin is one of the meds. But it takes several others to clear the liver, to cross the blood brain barrier where some of the larvae hide out.
I won't repeat myself here. Much of the needed info is on links I posted under the MMS thread and whether your use MMS or others, does not make much difference as long as you recognize the mode of operation of the parasites. They can be literally anywhere in the body, including the feet. Whether it is the "lungworm" or not -- does not make much difference. No organ is tabu.
I know of no test that I would depend upon. Energetic testing is easier and just as realiable. And looking around, I have come to the conclusion that parasites are part of Lyme Disease. And to get rid of one means you have to address the other seriously. It takes a long time to eliminate parasites, and any time you slow down too early, means you start all over again.
Take care.
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PS - just saw GiGi's post. I dowsed MMS & it said "no" for me. I'm not against it but I don't think I'm at the right stage of treatment to use it yet.
I've also been using a strong magnet type of treatment. I think it's making them come to the forefront for treatment now.
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Herbs and salt/c got rid of my SEVERE asthma I had for over 40 yrs. Of course, I did a lot of herbs and high dose salt/c. When the parasites exited my G. I. track, my asthma went away. You have to be very aggressive with tx.
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My doc has me nebulizing potassium iodide (2 drops in a little filtered water).
I am also on other prescriptions that we have been rotating to address all of the different parasites. Biltricide, Ivermectin, Pyrantel, Albenza and Alinia. Next I will also be doing Vermox.
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Sparkle , I read at other CFS sites that some docs advised iver/ praziquantel for it . I went and bought it , and I honestly started breathing MUCH better after a month .
Just a layman's guess , but you might try nanosilver also . I am reading a lot of other people improving with it aother boards and personal blogs. I imagine you could nebulize it and send the silver right to the desired spot. Google "nebulize colloidal silver ".
I will say a prayer that you are led to a solution .
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Thanks annxyzz & everyone. All good potential solutions. I dowsed a list & the fenbendazole came up combined with ivermectin & nebulized iodine. I got a "no" for praziquantel.
I think the salt/C, silver & MMS may be good for maintainence later. I will dowse it again. I was using a high powered electromagnet for healing & I think it caused them to surface.
I'm also looking into using essential oils like clove, oregano & white thyme & some of the Cowden herbs like cumanda & enula.
I'm in the middle of moving so most of my stuff is in storage temporarily. I would have thought this reaction I'm having was a bad cold/cough. I never would have thought it was lungworm coming out if I didn't know better.
I'm sure this happened in the past & I never suspected lungworm. I read that having a cough is a symptom of lungworm but it's easy to confuse it with a cold. I never had asthma or allergies much in the past.
I do remember that when I first got CFS in my 20s that the onset happened with a bad cold/flu that didn't go away.
This is what I think happened... I used the electromagnet & it stirred up the lungworm. They are trying to escape being in my lungs & I got a bad cough. They need to get into the intestinal tract to complete their lifecycle. I could be wrong but this is what seems to be going on.
For many years, I felt like someone hit me in my back with a 2X4 when I woke up. I think it may have been toxins from the lungworm accumulating in my back when I was sleeping. I don't really know but these are some observations.
The symptoms may not be what they might seem to be like CFS, fibro, lyme, etc. These things may be from parasites - as most of us know. The doctors for the most part will not tell us this.
Lungworm has definitively been connected with CFS through a scientific study... I may have has these things for over 20 years in my lungs.
Thanks again everyone!
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S, I have been greatly helped by : Oregano the herb ( not oil) similar to brand called Oregamax. It kills fungus and other germs. I had NO sideffects , just better breathing. Did not think it would work except that the user rviews at iherb and amazon were amazing. I bought a copycat version from Vtamin Shoppe and will never be without it .I love the stuff and it is a strong antioxidant and pretty cheap . I take 3 capsules at a time, but rarely need it much now .
Also, singulair is generic and worked wonders for my breathing before iver/ praziquantel . I had constant difficulty breathing, but have definitely improved .
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Thanks. I'll look into it. I was taking a combo of oregano, thyme & clove oil in caps. I don't know how the essential oils compare with the dry herb.
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I did 6 mo of Mumosa Pudica and Nebulized Iodine. All gone Posts: 905 | From Santa Cruz,Calif | Registered: Aug 2005
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Do you mean the Iodine like Liguals? sp? A drop or 2 in water and use nebulizer
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Thanks Healing! I looked into nebulized iodine & I was using Nascent iodine - not lugols. I have to get back into it again.
I tried to research mimosa pudica but I couldn't find much about it outside of Dr. Ks reference. I do have some of the raw herb around. Maybe I'll go for the one he recommends... I have to think about it.
I had a big die-off from using a strong magnet device & it made me pretty ill. I'm pretty sure it was lungworm.
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It is recommended to inhale nebulized iodine for 6 months to a year. I have been using it for 6 1/2 months now, every day for about 15 minutes, 2 or so drops. About a month ago, my breathing improved noticeably.
I did the research and got an OMRON Model NE-C30. A nebulizer that requires electrical power is better than the handhelds because it is more powerful.
I recommend this protocol.
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Thank you! I was doing the Magnascent iodine in the nebulizer but I guess I wasn't doing it long enough. I don't know how it compares to the Tri-quench. I'll look into it.
I'm going to try Fenbendazole. I read some people had good results with it from other message boards. My dowsing said Ivermectin, Fenbendazole & nebulized iodine.
It's similar to ICUs protocol on Curezone. I'm waiting for the Fenbendazole. I had a pretty big die-off from a strong magnet device. I was kind of surprised by it. I didn't think the lungworm was so bad.
I'll probably continue with that since I had such a strong reaction. I had to detox for a few days now.
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Just looked up Tri-quench... It's SSKI Potassium Iodide. Some people don't think it's good to nebulize that form of iodine.
When it comes to using iodine in a nebulizer special caution is needed. The choice of iodine is important because putting in potassium, which is found in Lugol�s, is dangerous. Potassium chloride, another salt of potassium, is used for lethal injection so I recommend only Nascent Iodine.
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Man Dies After Parasitic Worms Invade Lungs Steroid treatment for inflammatory disorder may have spurred 'hyperinfection,' report says
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By Randy Dotinga
HealthDay Reporter
WEDNESDAY, March 20 (HealthDay News) -- A Vietnamese immigrant in California died of a massive infection with parasitic worms that spread throughout his body, including his lungs. They had remained dormant until his immune system was suppressed by steroid drugs used to treat an inflammatory disorder, according to the report.
The 65-year-old man was apparently infected by the worms in Vietnam, one of many countries in the world where they're known to infect humans. About 80 percent to 90 percent of people die if they are infected by the worm species and then suffer from so-called "hyperinfection" as the worms travel through their bodies, said report co-author Dr. Niaz Banaei, an assistant professor of infectious diseases at Stanford University School of Medicine.
The man's case emphasizes the importance of testing patients who might be infected with the parasite before giving them drugs to dampen the immune system, said Dr. Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, who's familiar with the report findings.
"You have to think twice before starting big doses of steroids," Hotez said. "The problem is that most physicians are not taught about this disease. It often does not get recognized until it's too late."
Parasitic worms of the Strongyloides stercoralis species are most commonly found in tropical and subtropical areas of the world, although they've also appeared in the Appalachian region of the United States. Typically, they infect people in rural areas such as Brazil, northern Argentina and Southeast Asia, Hotez noted, and may currently infect as many 100 million people worldwide.
The worms live in the ground or water, typically in places with poor sanitation, and infect humans by penetrating the skin. They may live in the intestines for years or even decades, creating new larvae that grow into worms about 2 millimeters long, Hotez explained.
For the patient in this case, trouble came when he took steroids, which dampen the immune system, to treat "giant-cell arteritis," a disorder that causes inflammation of arteries of the scalp, neck and arms. The drugs appeared to have allowed the worms to grow and spread because they were no longer kept in check.
Exams uncovered a massive lung infection, report co-author Banaei noted. "The adult worms were producing eggs, and the larvae emerging from the eggs were invading the intestinal wall and disseminating to multiple organs in the body," Banaei said.
When this happens, Baylor's Hotez said, hundreds of thousands of larvae can transmit bacteria from the intestines into other parts of the body.
A medication can help treat infestation with the worms, but it doesn't help when the hyperinfection reaches an advanced stage, he said.
What should be done? In cases where patients come from a region of the world where the worms are common, Hotez suggested that physicians consider that they may be infected and screen them for the worms. That may be difficult though, because multiple fecal tests may be necessary, he said, and another kind of test has limited value in terms of detecting cases.
The study findings are published in the March 21 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine.
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