gigimac
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I don't think I can continue doxy since it is making me barf all the sudden. Are there any Abx that are comparable to doxy? Would azithromycin work?
Also are there any herbs that have similar action as doxy?
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My LLMD switched me to ceftin after about two months on doxy and I couldn't tolerate it anymore.
My wife was switched from doxy to ceftin for the spring/summer months. I continued with ceftin for the rest of my treatment.
I'm on Minocycline now and I understand its of the same class of abx. If you search tetracycline, that's the type of abx that doxy is and you should be able to see the other similar ones.
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- Minocycline is the closest. It can cause a bit of vertigo for some to the degree they can't tolerate it, though. Still, others do fine.
If you take mino, be certain to also include liver support. Mino can be more ototoxic to ears but good liver support (and avoid acetaminophen totally) can help.
Also be sure B-6 and other neuro vitamins and fish oil are up to speed.
GINGER CAPSULES can help with vertigo and nausea (timed apart from Rx, though).
Mino is easier regarding the sun and I think penetrates the brain better. -
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- Going back to the "barfing"
Are you taking doxy in the MIDDLE of a substantial meal?
NOT lying down for an hour afterward?
And with good liver support?
GINGER CAPSULES may be work a try, too. - timed apart from Rx. Tea is not enough to reach the therapeutic dose for ginger. And they need to be kept up several times a day to keep the level high enough to work.
Search, GINGER ROOT Capsules - organic is best or wild harvested. -
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yes i take the doxy with food, and for a yr now i have been fine as long as i took it with food it is only now i have started barfing. I have also had weird painful sore spots throughout stomach.
Can't help but wonder if the doxy is tearing up my stomach.
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- Are you sure you are taking doxy? Check the bottle. Compare the pills to the MANUFACTURER'S WEBSITE PHOTOS - looking at all the subtle details.
Counterfeit drugs happen anywhere.
And, has ANYTHING changed about this way they make this pill? -
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- "weird painful sore spots throughout stomach"
I would STOP all medicines until you talk with your prescribing doctor. If an ucler is present and the medicine is caustic to the lining of the stomach (I don't know if doxy is but it should be considered) . . . it could make it worse.
Herbs to help the stomach: Slippery Elm Bark; Marsmallow Root; DGL
Food: Quinoa FLAKES
I'm not a doctor but have had ulcers. You should be assessed for the possibility of an ulcer.
Have you been assessed for h Pylori? It's the main cause of ulcers. You should be. There is a very good combination treatment protocol for that now.
If h Pylori, it is absolutely vital to assertively address it.
Caustic medicines can also contribute to ulcers, gluten, GMO foods, etc. so all the variables should be considered, too. -
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H pylori -
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- Q: Also are there any herbs that have similar action as doxy?
A combination would be required, just as with antibiotics that need a combination.
Allicin is one that I would consider, as in the kind of formulas in Zhang's protocol. That has most impressed me of all the herbal combinations.
I did fanatasically well when I was on this for a few months, two separate stints. I would have continued, however, the cost was beyond my reach. And the cost is very reasonable for the good quality. Very reasonable. Wish I had known about this long before my bank account went bust.
I've done so many other things that did not even come close to this, including doxycycline for a couple months at 600 mg a day (but I was given that alone, not in combination - as I did not know then that this required other things with it and the doctor was not LL). -
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How they work in synergy and one increases the effectiveness of the other.
Does this mean, for an example that if one took:
100 mg Doxy/day and Zith 250 mg/3 times week that - through synergy it would be like taking 400 mgs/day of Doxy??? and 1000 mg Zith????
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Sorry I totally didn't realize I posted twice. If I had I would have deleted it.
Susan K i am like you and can't tolerate normal doses. I will check out your link.
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The article was very interesting Susan.
"Azithromycin is an alternative to roxithromycin. They deplete the organisms slowly: this is very important, as the release of bacterial endotoxinsi should not be sudden."
Abx has been so hard on me and i have never gotten close to a therapeutic dose. my doc prescribed zithro but i have yet to take it. This makes me feel better about taking it.
I know people have said zithro by itself doesn't work but maybe it will help until i see my dr.
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Keebler I have not been tested for h. pylori but i will have to see dr. soon if it doesn't go away.
i have been hoping it was just a fluke and would go away on its own but it has been at least 3 weeks now and still here.
I'm kinda scared cause this is not normal for me. it doesn't line up with any of my other "lymey" things. I hope it is nothing serious, is the test for h. pylori a blood test?
Any other tests I should get for the stomach thing?
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I second DORYX. Regular Doxy made me nautious at times and harder on the stomach. That never happens with Doryx because it is tuned release, never any problems or even esophagus reflux burning either.
Another alternative is Infuserv's time released Doxy,sorta like Doryx, but in capsule form.
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What do you all think about the Doxy/Zith combo?
Lower doses of both with greater effect - and less side effects?
Is that possible that one increases the effectiveness of the other???
If so - that would be great for those of us that cannot take the usually Rx'd doses for either drug.
I have used the combo and intend to again.
If would be great if Zith enhanced Doxy's great aspects and v.v. Maybe a way to be able to take lower doses and make it all tolerable yet effective?
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DORYX allowed me to take high dose long term. Give it a try - has a special coating and did not cause any gastro issues.
Yes, love Doxy/Zythro combo. This was/is my dynamic duo, along with Malarone.
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