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orrn
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My daughter had a CT of her abdomen today. They noticed that her appendix is enlarged.

She has no symptoms at all except mild belly button pain that she has had for a year.

Now they want to take out her appendix. I am an OR nurse, so I know that when an appendix needs to come out it is important that it does.

But if we wouldn't have had this CT done today we wouldn't have know that hers was enlarged.

I just think that sometimes we rush into surgery. Would her LD cause her appendix to be enlarged at all?

I do not want to rush into surgery, but of course want to do the right thing for my daughter.

Thanks for any thoughts or ideas.

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Did they start her on IV Antibiotics?

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http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/antibiotics-instead-of-surgery-safe-for-some-with-appendicitis-201204114588

ANTIBIOTICS INSTEAD OF SURGERY SAFE FOR SOME WITH APPENDICITIS

Posted April 11, 2012

Patrick J. Skerrett, Executive Editor, Harvard Health

Since the late 1800s, doctors have turned to surgery to treat appendicitis, even though an inflamed appendix sometimes gets better on its own.

A new report suggests that trying intravenous antibiotics first works as well as surgery for some people. . . . (cont'd at link above)


That study is here:

http://www.bmj.com/content/344/bmj.e2156

British Medical Journal

Safety and efficacy of antibiotics compared with appendicectomy for treatment of uncomplicated acute appendicitis: meta-analysis of randomised controlled trials

BMJ 2012; 344 doi:

http://dx.doi.org/10.1136/bmj.e2156 (Published 5 April 2012)

Cite this as: BMJ 2012;344:e2156

Excerpts:

Results: Four randomised controlled trials with a total of 900 patients (470 antibiotic treatment, 430 appendicectomy) met the inclusion criteria.

Antibiotic treatment was associated with a 63% (277/438) success rate at one year . . .

. . . Conclusion: Antibiotics are both effective and safe as primary treatment for patients with uncomplicated acute appendicitis.

Initial antibiotic treatment merits consideration as a primary treatment option for early uncomplicated appendicitis. . . .
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From that same study, additional detail and insight from this NPR feature & the BBC text below:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/04/06/150125527/no-need-for-the-knife-antibiotics-may-suffice-in-some-appendicitis-cases

No Need For The Knife? Antibiotics May Suffice In Some Appendicitis Cases

- by Teresa Tomassoni - NPR - April 06, 2012

Excerpts:

. . . More than 60 percent of those who took antibiotics had no further symptoms after one year.

And the risk of complications from antibiotics was more than 30 percent less, compared with appendectomy. . . .

. . . "If you treat the 80 percent of patients with uncomplicated appendicitis with antibiotics, you'll probably save about 60 percent of those patients from having an operation," he adds. . . .

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17611098

Appendicitis: Antibiotics may be better than surgery

-By James Gallagher - 5 April 2012

Health and science reporter, BBC News

Excerpts:

Antibiotics may be a better alternative to surgery for treating appendicitis, according to doctors at the Queen's Medical Centre in Nottingham. . . .

. . . He said there was also a reduction in complications such as wound infection in antibiotic treatment compared with surgery.

He says the treatment would be only for patients with "uncomplicated appendicitis" - those with an inflamed appendix, but no other symptoms . . .
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Is she gluten-free? That might also be a huge help as might being dairy-free and GMO free.

Corn and Soy might also be best eliminated for this time.

Detail here about all those can inflame entire GI system:


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=029690;p=0

Excitotoxins; MSG; Aspartame; & "Natural" Flavors;

GMO foods that destroy the GI Tract; Gluten; Dairy.
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If surgery is decided upon, it appears that as long as it's not too bad a laproscopic procedure may work.

STERIODS can make lyme MUCH worse. Steroids are often given with surgery or afterward so be sure to check with her LLMD in advance and have full communication regarding all meds she may be given.

If also on (the right kind and right dose of) antibiotics to keep lyme in check, this might be okay IF required. Still, as steroids can hang around for six months, so to speak, it's best to avoid them.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/100984?#000000

Topic: what do STEROIDS actually do to those with lyme?

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=123939;p=0

Topic: Minor surgery and steriods - complications from steroids that were not supposed to be administered.
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You asked: "Would her LD cause her appendix to be enlarged at all?"

I think so. Lyme causes inflammation anywhere, everywhere it "wants" and it does cause a lot of gut trouble. Be sure to check in with her LLMD about the appendix issues.

GI issues connected to lyme & co:

http://www.thehumansideoflyme.net/viewarticle.php?aid=62

PRACTICAL GASTROENTEROLOGY - April 2006

Sherr: "BELLS PALSY OF THE GUT"

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PARASITES could also be connected. Parasites do travel with lyme and more and more LLMDs are finging that lyme treatment can be more successful if parasites are first addressed.
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Another possible approach. If lack of circulation lead to the inflammation, take a good look at the CT scan to see if there is any blockage or twists.

If so, VISCERAL MANIPULATION as done by someone trained in this technique through UPLEDGER INSTITUTE (or the like) may be of great help.

Just web search UPLEDGER for their practitioner locator link. It may be covered by insurance.

In some cases, acupuncture can also help improve circulation. Some instances of disease have to do with lack of circulation so if this is a factor, there may be ways to correct that.
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If surgery is to be done:

anesthesia can be hard on the liver so certain liver support is required.

be sure to avoid acetaminophen as it blocks glutatione. Detail below. Pain management links included here, too:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too.


If to be admitted to hospital, the food served there is often just terrible. See the article here by a doctor "Why My Mother Refused To Eat Hospital Food"

I think everyone going into to hospital should avoid the kinds of foods typically served and have friends and family bring real food instead. It matters greatly. Unless good food is serving in safe containers, dont' even sign up for it to avoid billing. It's that important.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=029690;p=0

Excitotoxins; MSG; Aspartame; & "Natural" Flavors;

GMO foods that destroy the GI Tract; Gluten; Dairy.
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Parasites could be a likely culprit.

At this years ILADS conference they stated that parasites are the number one co-infection to Lyme. Yet most LLMDs are new to the topic and are unaware of how to treat.

I finally starting treating for parasites last year. I am still passing parasites daily. Thankfully more docs are catching on.

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To go along with Tammy's note:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/122300/3?

Topic: PARASITE WARRIORS SUPPORT THREAD
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Thanks so much for all the information! It is much appreciated!
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