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Dave, are you feeling better with your amalgams out?
How about the Quicksilver, do you notice a difference while using it as well?
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Unfortunately there has yet to be an a-ha moment. keep in mind i am chelating, doing KPU and treating babesia all started around the same time.
Some might think that is nuts but i found out all of this stuff at the same time and did not want to delay...esp. given i had back slide pretty bad with pysche issues...prob the babs.
so its still very much a wait and see.
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Bitten, yes because the mercury still got in your body. Also, we are all still exposed to toxins in our air, water, food, makeup, supplements, etc.
Also, in the link I posted above (you tube) there is mention of how some people are non excretors, meaning their bodies cannot detox metals, so it's not going to show up in hair & nails tests, etc, but the metals are still in their bodies keeping them sick.
Dave, I don't think that's nuts at all. I'm chealting and dealing with babs, bart, lyme, myco, possibly proto (protomyxzoa), parasites and more all at the same time (had a few more but they're gone now). My doc goes full bore into it (does it all at the same time) to try and get patients well.
How is your KPU treatment going (I remember reading your KPU thread)?
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really hard to say what KPU is doing. i can say this i have been miserable for the past three months. Not sure if thats from KPU or from Mepron.
I have had a headache from hell and real bad leg cramps. i tend to think this is from the babesia treatment but your guess is as good as mine.
as bad as i feel its still better than the first 8 weeks on KPU. That was brutal...fatigue was awful.
still can't see my way out of this...
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I'm so sorry to hear this Dave. I wish Gigi were here. She knows more about this stuff than anyone, IMO, and could help us all through it. Lymenet, please let her back on!
I think it's a tough road for any of us getting rid of metal. It's not fun. It stirs up the co infections in my body, yeast too, so I'm battling them at the same time. Maybe this is what's happening with you too? I'm happy to hear that you feel better now though than your first 8 weeks on KPU. Hang in there.
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Anyone know the role of ALA in chelation? I read somewhere that it can bounce the metals around which can be bad if you are not prepared.
Also, what are the best mineral supplements to be on? It has to do with proportions, right?
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My llmd has me on Thorne Trace Minerals while we do mild chelation with parsley drops and EDTA suppositories...
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I am on rejuvinate which is a mineral supp by biological therapeutics .
Also ala is not that we'll absorbed by the gut so most of it passes through the gut unabsorbed into the body but it's role is to pick up heavy metals in the gut as it passes through.
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Any word on using Modified Citrus Pectin or Zeolite for getting metals out?
They both look really good on paper, but I don't see too many studies on them.
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quote:Originally posted by Maya12: The progress from the metal removal is very slow and can get really tough, I agree but then when I see my blood in live cell and see all the biofilms circulating that I never used to see before chelation that gives me hope that I am really destroying the bugs homes and getting deep to the root of the disease.
I truly believe that you cant get rid of this without dealing with the metals and biofilms that the metals make up. This exposes the bugs more to be killed.
Maya, have you thought about protomyxzoa? It creates tons of biofilm.
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Bumped for people working on parasites and/or heavy metals.
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Older threads with great advice (from Gigi):
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Up.
I'm doing a heavy metal challenge tomorrow.
DMSA.
A little nervous.
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DMSA doesn't bother me at all, but you might want to wait until you're feeling better (your other post).
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I had no problem with this as well. But I agree with catgirl that it may be better to wait until you are feeling a little better. Good luck Greta. Posts: 2387 | From New England | Registered: Aug 2011
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I will be doing this soon. I read EDTA does not get into your saliva so it does not leach the mercury out of your teeth. WHen I took oral liposmal EDTA it did not bother me at all, but I hope to do IV with the NP I recently started seeing.
She was concerned about my fillings. My mother took me to a dental school when I was a child and I have an enormous amount of fillings. What do you do when they are too big to replace with composites? Why are root canals bad?
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Does DMSA make your urine smell very badly of sulfur?
My urine this morning was atrocious smelling-smelled like boiled egg yolk.
Made my whole house smell like sulfur.
I know I am missing a gene that helps detox sulfur...I'm just wondering if it is normal to have sulfur pee or if it could be this gene interfering.
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Neff, if your fillings are too big to replace, they will suggest crowns. I had a mouth full of amalgams too. I had one dentist tell me that mine were quite big and I would have to have all crowns instead of composites. However, a biological dentist told me I would only need a couple of crowns, and the rest composites.
I would see a biological dentist to get a proper assessment. Maybe even a couple of them to get second or third opinions. Whatever you do, don't use a standard dentist for this (my mistake). The most exposure a patient gets is at the time of removal. It is VERY important to have it done properly or lots of it will end up back in your body and make you sicker.
That said, some people get their amalgams out and feel better. Some people notice no difference. For these people, at least they are no longer off gassing mercury into their bodies 24/7 though. That in itself is a positive step for any lyme patient.
Root canals are a whole other story, which is why it takes a good biological dentist to assess what is going on. IMO, some people should remove them, some people should not. We are all different, so there is no across the board rule for everyone. A biological dentist can use EAV testing to help determine what is best for you.
As far as detoxing heavy metals with a bunch of amalgams, for me it was a mistake (didn't work). All I did was pull the metals from my amalgams and deep tissues, and re circulated them in my body. One day they went to my brain. I couldn't read that day. I understood what I was reading, yet tried reading something out loud to my husband and my words were jumbled. The metals would not leave my body until my amalgams were out.
Unfortunately, there is no short cut here. I tried it and it didn't work. It's a complex decision, and IMO should be based upon a proper assessment by a biological dentist.
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Thanks Catgirl. My son is in his third year of dental school. Maybe I will wait and let him fix them when he graduates. Or I could go in his fourth year and have him do it.
I wish I could just be put to sleep and wake up with it all done. The idea of being in a chair having all of this done all over again is awful.
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You're welcome Neff. Have you checked out the book: Whole Body Dentistry yet (Breiner)? There's a new version out now (thicker) with more info. It will help you decide what to do.
Also, Accidental Cure (Yu) is really good but it is more broad spectrum (parasites, heavy metals, allergies, etc).
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Bumping this for someone on another thread.
Greta, I just noticed your post (sorry didn't see it before). Yes, DMSA does make my urine smell like sulfur. How are you doing on it?
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I have made some improvement on the EDTA IV chelation. I have had 4 of them so far. After the last one I did a urine test for metals. I won't get the results for about two weeks. I am very curious.
In dental school my son is taught amalgams are not a problem. I am going to order the book you mentioned. Hopefully it will get here while he is visiting for Christmas.
When I was using camel's milk the person who is most knowledgeable about it, told me getting amalgams out is critical for autistic kids as well. She said most composites are also unsafe .
She recommended this type of composite. She said it is the only safe material to use in your mouth.
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That is great you are seeing some improvement!
I hope your son understands. Mercury is the most toxic thing on the planet and yet they are still telling students it's safe. Unfortunately, most people believe it. There is a composite compatibility test you can take (in the book). I highly recommend taking the test.
Once I started reading about mercury, I was shocked to discover what it does. It's sickens me that humans are contaminating themselves, and don't even know it (batteries & light bulbs have to be recycled or the mercury in them gets in the food supply).
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I went to this site and it says that this filling material puts out a steady release of fluroide! ... not for me.
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I can't do fluoride either.
Can the inventors of this world not come up with a filling material that does not leech? Period?
We're sublingually absorbing these materials 24 hours a day, 365 days a year... Surely there is a benign filling to use?
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I would think that ceramic filling made from silica would be a good choice. I think at one time they made them out of porcelian or ceramic, but they may break after a while.
Probably better to break than to have metals and fluroide leaching in all your life.
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I didn't see that. I wouldn't want to use it either. My son says most composites have a material that turns to BPA when mixed with saliva.
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I was wondering if anyone was using just Modified Citrus Pectin with success. It looks like most are using multiple things for chelating, but I have read that MCP is gentle and effective alone.
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I tried pectasol for a while (modified fruit pectin). I like that it's gentle but it didn't seem to pull metals as fast as other binders (slow is safer but I wanted them out). At least that was how I felt, and heavy metal tests showed some improvement, but I've gotten more improvement with other binders/products.
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Thanks Catgirl, good to know. I am super sensitive so I need to stick with just one thing at a time. Although I am taking some Diatomaceous Earth too for help with parasites as I am trying to slowly address both. I know they go hand in hand.
I have some die off even with just small amounts of the MCP so I know it's working. At this point I am only dealing with candida, not Lyme anymore, and have been working on yeast for years, so I feel it's time to start addressing these other things too.
Just last year I had the last of my fillings removed so now it's time!!!
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You're welcome, and awesome you had your fillings removed! That is good you are doing DE too. I know the more metals I get out, the better my candida gets.
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Which detox supplement is safe to take while still having amalgam fillings in the mouth?
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I took chlorella, even before I took amalgams. Then after, I continued with it. But I suppose you can take anything that binds and do not move metals?
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Brussels, can you say me name of that products? I tried zeolite and feel a lot worse.
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