Topic: There IS such a thing as CHRONIC Lyme Disease
Tincup
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I think is is time to shut down the debate on if chronic Lyme really exists and focus our attention and research efforts on how to CURE this stinking CHRONIC disease once and for all.
The IDiots don't deserve our attention, never have, because it is FOR SURE- and if they don't get it by now they never will- that there IS such a thing as chronic Lyme disease.
I know they know, and you know they know, but they still get a real kick out of just being evil and rather than find a cure they spend their time trying to bust our doctors and kick sick patients into the ground. I think it is time to move on.
We've persisted because we were right. We've won all the battles along the way and I think it is time to say to the world that we've won this decades old war.
The cure discussions are more complicated, because everyone is different! I have never heard two people treat the same way or for the same amount of time. Thoughts on how to handle this diversity?
In our groups, it's antibiotics, which supplements to take and which variety works, herbs, rifing, electromagnetic machines, oxygen treatments, detoxing, stem cell injections, and on and on. And it's all valid for someone...
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Razzle
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Excellent post and excellent article - thanks for sharing!!!
-------------------- -Razzle Lyme IgM IGeneX Pos. 18+++, 23-25+, 30++, 31+, 34++, 39 IND, 83-93 IND; IgG IGeneX Neg. 30+, 39 IND; Mayo/CDC Pos. IgM 23+, 39+; IgG Mayo/CDC Neg. band 41+; Bart. (clinical dx; Fry Labs neg. for all coinfections), sx >30 yrs. Posts: 4167 | From WA | Registered: Feb 2011
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That was a great article! To me this is what is important:
"The question is no longer whether LD can survive an antibiotic challenge in order to become a persistent infection. High quality studies show not only that it happens, but they also show how it happens, and why we should not feel surprised that it happens.
Our task in the new era is to determine which patients suffer from persistent LD, and to keep pressing for evidence-based wisdom to guide the physicians called upon to treat them."
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I had time to read through the article last nite - a lot of good detail for us to understand about how infection happens - thx for posting it -
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Annie C
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I love the way Tincup phrases her ideas. Idiots I love the word Idiots... It's almost perfect for a lot of Drs that are Ducks quack quack...
-------------------- May God Bless you every day. And Never say never and do not give up no matter what. We need you to help others. Posts: 1288 | From Tetons Wyoming | Registered: Oct 2000
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Tincup
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Razz, yes, Glad you liked it. We all need to share it far and wide.
TX- I agree! Good quote!
Robin5037506736406- good point! So many options to try as each case is different. Or, we could bury our heads in the quick sand and quack quack quack that 2-3 weeks "cures all" like the ducks do. Nah, on second thought I like the treatments that actually WORK!
Hey AC- ID for Infectious Diseases, then the rest just seems to fall in place. IDiot! HA!
Tutu- we've waited a LONG time for it, haven't we?
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Hear hear. You're preachin to the choir. :-)
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GretaM
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"Advanced imaging techniques make it clear that Bb is no ordinary bacterium. It has motility prowess heretofore unseen in the microbial world. It is built to infiltrate, evade, and persist."
Yep.
This was a wonderful article! Thanks so much for posting this link.
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Well, maybe by knowing how the enemy works, that will provide keys for cures?
Like I think they're working on interrupting the Salp15 protein in ticks' saliva that allows for cloaking of the infections being transmitted.
So can we learn to think spirochete? As in how to disrupt it? Actually, the same question goes for each infection.
Or are the answers going to need to come from, say, what the atomic force microscope is able to observe of these infections' behavior?
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