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How many people have had this form of testing, or ART, or testing with the Asyra or Zyto? If so, has it been accurate?
My daughter has been tested by 3 different practitioners and they all got very similar results. One was even confirmed by a blood test later. Because of this, we really feel that it is important to find someone who treats this way.
Just wondering if there are any related success stories.
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I just started with an ND who uses the Asyra and the Ondamed among other machines. The Asyra indicated Lyme and some coinfections.
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We have done EAV testing and found it very helpful to determine treatment protocols.
Not sure how different EAV is to the methods you mentioned, but recently we had found that my son was losing ground and his treatments were not helping. EAV determined that viruses, not lyme are currently his biggest problem. We are again moving in the right direction with antivirals.
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I have never heard of EAV. Can I ask who you go to for this testing?
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EAV is the same as the Asyra testing. I think it stands for Electroacupuncture According to Voll. Dr. Voll is the doctor who invented this technique, which is also referred to as EDS testing (Electrodermal screening).
I feel it is an essential part of healing when you have lyme and coinfections because the symptoms are so similar it is hard to know which infection you have and which protocol will work for you. I like it better than muscle testing, but both are extremely accurate if you do it with an experienced practitioner. It does depend on the skill of the practitioner though.
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I had an Asyra test on oct 4. I found it to be most interesting. It does focus in on what is the main issue. Guidelines for my treatment were in part made from that test. It is the test that showed that my cortisol and adrenaline factors were not stressed even though I have Lyme. I was having a few neuro ticks of some sort and it didn't pick that up.. but it was a relatively mild symptom that seems to aleady have passed. It did point to eye issues, dental issues and lung stress, ( i had bronchitis at the time) and parathyroid system was weakened.. it really showed a lot of different stuff but the test spits out what should be addressed first. I did not find it nearly as comprehensive as the old Phayzic (sp?) that is now no longer available. I have some faith in these tests due to the phazyx test being so accurate it blew my mind, it even told me what vaccines i had had and in what year! as well as all the toxins in me and measured them on a scale that could be followed to monitor effectivness of treatment. It is the test I used to monitor the cancer issue I had at the time and went on to resolve... where did the phazyx go and why? who knows. I do know that there are other tests out there more comprehensive than the Asyra.. but I have forgotten the names... its been a while.
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Without energetic tests, I am SURE I would still be sick with lyme, and so would my daughter. So many bites, so many problems, so many treatments, still being bitten...
It was an impossible merry-go-round problem for us, and we were going downwards too fast.
I wonder how weaker people like us can still survive lyme without energy tests. I wouldn't have lasted more than year, I think.
These tests literally saved my life. We mainly did ART, but once you learn how to open regulation, any muscle test would be already helpful.
ART is just a complete methodology to find out PRIORITIES, what is number 1, 2, 3, 4... , meaning, an order to treat.
ART may show acupuncture points to treat, which infection, which vaccine, which tooth, which organ, and which substance is being toxic to what organ,
...and which substance can be used to clean that organ, or kill that pathogen IN that specific part of the body, and IF the substance you just took is reaching the organ you want to treat, and if not, what to do do to unblock it, etc.
what I find amazing, is that ART can show if the main problem is an organ, or if it is not exactly the organ but just the lymph (matrix) that is bad in that organ, or if cells from the organ started to degenerate already.
And ART can show in which degree such degeneration is, at the moment you are testing. Serious, not too serious, light.
I always felt it was like having a WHOLE BODY scanning, from deep inside.
ART can also point out psychological blockages coming from you or even other people around you, your family, your ancestrals...
Of course you need a good practioner for doing that all well.
We also did a bit of EAV-like tests, but these were less 'sharp', as we still needed some sort of methodology to attack the problems found with EAV.
Success is practioner-dependent, as these energy tests are only tools to help finding problems and solutions, but you need a brain behind for analysing, and a methodology to follow.
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quote:Originally posted by Carmen: .. where did the phazyx go and why?
The fda probably banned it because it works.
Carmen, if you remember those other tests that worked for you, could you please come back and post them? I am thinking of getting the EDS/EAV test done.
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Thanks for posting Brussels! If anyone knows of a good ART practitioner in the NE, can you please PM me?
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The QXCI is acomprehensive test but I dont like it. You have to be a brainiac microbiologist to understand what its telling you. Not user friendly to most clinicians or patients IMHO.
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Catgirl, if you find good ART practitioner, please PM me too. I've been doing energetic tests by myself, but I would love to find someone good, who I can trust. So far I wasn't able to find anybody near me and DR. K. is VERY FAR. Posts: 443 | From Montreal, Canada | Registered: Oct 2009
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Yes Brussels, we feel it has been accurate as well and so would rather not go to someone who does not use it. WE WOULD LIKE TO find someone closer as well, preferably in northeastern U.S. As we are now driving to Wshington DC area which is way too far. We dont mind if it a nurse practitioner. Any other suggestions PLEASE PM me as well!
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Yes Brussels, we feel it has been accurate as well and so would rather not go to someone who does not use it. WE WOULD LIKE TO find someone closer as well, preferably in northeastern U.S. As we are now driving to Wshington DC area which is way too far. We dont mind if it a nurse practitioner. Any other suggestions PLEASE PM me as well!
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Thanks Carmen! Yeah, that guy is an idiot.
Anuta, will do (you too Shannsmom). I'm looking for someone with all 3 levels of ART.
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OK I have never heard of QXCI. Where were you tested with it, and does it also list supplements etc. That you should use to treat with?
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I don't know if I may suggest that, but there is a very well known practioner who is doing ART long distance.
I won't write her name here, but if you would like to know, just contact me. She lives in the US.
I can't say she is good or not at doing those long distance tests, as I haven't tried with her. I just know, by own experience, that it is possible to test someone from far.
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Thanks Faithful. I will look it up! Have you tried it or know someone who has?
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I went to an LLNP that uses muscle testing. She is trained in the Klinghardt protocol. Unfortunately it did not seem to help me at all, if anything I was worse. I just went to a new chiropractor that combines muscle testing with his eval nd treatment and can't believe how great I feel after one visit. He was able to pick up issues with my colon contributing to my joint pain.
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