lyme in Putnam
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no matter what I take or do, unwanted thoughts won't stop. How do I get them to die down? I've tried everything, for a few minutes they stopped this morning, then back full swing with the unreality.
anyone? restarted bacillin last night. will this stuff work?
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GretaM
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Hang in there Putnam!
Can you distract yourself with a creative task of some sort?
Like drawing something you see in a magazine to paper?
Painting?
Indoor pruning of plants?
Decorating cookies?
Sometimes focussing on the "creative" part of my brain slows/stops the part that does the repetitive thoughts.
Painting/Drawing/sculpting is also an outlet for me. Sometimes it is easier to draw pain than describe it.
What about making some Christmas decorations?
Also, I saw a thing last night that the left side of the brain is the learning speaking side.
The right side of the brain is the emotional creative side.
So I am trying today to use the right side of my brain to do creative things to stop the other side from rambling.
Maybe that will work for you?
I am painting mugs currently. Not very good but stopped the focus on pain.
Do you have anything at your house that you can get creative with?
Hang in there. Bicillin is supposed to be very good, especially for tough lyme.
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"Keep your face towards the sun, and let the shadows fall behind you."
-Walt Whitman
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steve1906
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I don't know if Bicillin will help, but there's a very good change you're herx from it.
I suggest keeping busy, and exercising if you can. Reading, walking, music etc.
Focus, close your eyes, breathe in and say silently to yourself:
"Clear mind, clear mind, clear mind . . ." So the next time the thought parade drags on, breathe in and Focus. "Clear mind, clear mind, clear mind . . ." Now that you feel stable, rooted and in control of your thoughts, toss them away and Flow.
With Focus and Flow, you can discover a healthy balance between firmly anchoring yourself in thought and freeing yourself from mental monotony.
Keep at it and there may be an end to that parade!
Hope you feel better!
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I had that. It was absolutely awful. The thoughts went over and over like a movie playing in the background in my head all day long. I'd wake up and think them immediately and they wouldn't go away when I was busy, they just fell a little bit into the background.
All I can say is that when the infection gets better, that dies down. I don't have that problem anymore, thankfully.
I kept a journal and those thoughts were probably the biggest torment I recorded in it. The pain was just pain, but when the disease made me think unwanted thoughts all day, I thought it would drive me crazy.
I found nothing other than healing to eliminate them. Keep working on regaining your health.
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I too had repetitive thoughts over and over again. A song would get trapped in my head and even if I only knew a couple lines, I would repeat it over and over again.
Songs was repetitive good stuff. Many of my thoughts were not so good. Like regrets that I couldn't work anymore.
A conversation I wanted to have with someone else but I was too ill to have that hard conversation.
Thoughts of wanting to tell the powers that be at the company I worked 28 yrs for, how much I regretted them and being mad at myself for working crazily for them while I was so ill and then felt kicked to the curb when I finally put my health before them.
I would have repetitive thoughts about things I had done or places I'd been. It was just all over the place.
It wasn't until I got some great counseling from a great therapists that I gave up all the negative thoughts and fears and just accepted this illness is what it is and what can I do to help my body/mind/spirit be.
Detoxing protocols were key for me getting toxic matter out of my body and mind. There was only so much toxins in the body/brain one can handle.
It took months upon months and months to see benefits. Even years later when I herxing or having a healing crisis period, yes, my mind will do some repetitive stuff.
I chase it away with something positive like going to my favorite consignment store and just looking around for something to brighten my space at the right price. I too am crafty and like to create stuff.
Lyme in Putnam, it will get better. Promise!
Pam
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Not well enough to write a lot, but I can relate. I know you're having a tough time, been including you in my prayers. Hang in there. Hugs.
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My son has this too now.
It seems to have gotten better with the sauna.
Don't want to over ask him, but the last time we spoke about it, he said it had improved. It got so bad that he had to give himself permission to listen to the songs to enable him to go to sleep. Prior to that he would cry because he could not escape them.
I get the impression he is not hearing songs every night now and during the day, atleast not as much.
So, ditto to detoxing.
Hugs
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"I too had repetitive thoughts over and over again. A song would get trapped in my head and even if I only knew a couple lines, I would repeat it over and over again."
I have had this. Looping, uncontrollably for hours on end. Music.
Other times I would get hours of uncontrollable memories, wandering arbitrarily from one to the next. In those times I am not in the driver's seat. There often seemed to be no rhyme or reason to the paths my mind would go down, and I had little ability to guide it.
Hang in there, the present is a tough place to be when in the thick of it.
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lyme in Putnam
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The depersonalization that comes with it, just terror, my son, husband doesn't get me out. Going to lyme support group now in CT. It helps. Concept of time…hormones, menopause …Im not the only one I know. thanks for listening. God bless all.
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I get this and wonder if it's from toxins. I have MTHFR (like practically everyone else), so maybe that has something to do with it as well. Meditating as well as coffee enemas help.
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For me was basically high toxicity. Too many toxins and those made me feel like there was another one inside me shouting, creating thoughts, fears, anxiety etc. I don't attribute that ONLY to infections, as when I took many binders, these symptoms disappeared fast.
It was almost predictable: after killer herbs, a few hours after, these attacks would start. If I had the right combo of cleaning stuff, in the right amount, these attacks would go down, I could feel relaxed again, like almost nothing was happening. That is why, for me, these unwanted thoughts had not to do with infection, but with toxicity.
I agree, they are awful. There is no poem, no sun bathing, nothing that could calm my thoughts and anxiety. Only detoxing. Possibly sauna, accupuncture, massage etc could help, but for me, binders were the only thing that kept me sane and sleeping well (with electrosmog avoidance in the night).
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I too have repetitive thoughts over and over again.
It has mostly come about as my body has become semi-functioning now after 2 1/2 years of treatment. It's like my brain awoke after being disconnected for so many years and now it is in overload mode.
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Judie
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This happened to my neighbor when she started working from home (just with herself too much). She couldn't stop the looping.
She went on psych meds because she needed to get her mind back.
It can also happen with toxic exposure.
Psych meds may help, but the you need a REALLY GOOD psychiatrist to work with, not just a PCP.
Stress can also aggravate these symptoms.
Please don't feel like a failure if you can't get this to calm down on your own. There's a biological process that may be going on that you may NOT have control over.
You can also have your neurotransmitters tested. An organic acids test (by The Great Plains) can tell you if something like your dopamine is out of balance. There are some neurotransmitters that are specific to OCD and racing thoughts.
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Keyword to use is "Off" - somehow, this seems to help me, at least...
I also find certain homeopathic remedies, or focusing on pleasant memories & thoughts helps push out the bad & repetitious thoughts.
And I tell myself it is not time to think about that right now - time to think about something else...and have things in mind to think about instead.
It is like breaking a habit - need to have something constructive and positive with which to replace the habitual behavior (in this case, negative thoughts), otherwise it is way too easy to go back to the habitual behavior...
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I have a very busy mind and the days I go to the doc the negative throughts can be overwhelming.. fear and anxiety come up from the bad news, and I tend to neglect the good news.
I allocate one day to fret. I tell my mind that that is all that is permitted. The rest of my time is put towards finding solutions...
but if a drug is causing this for you I cant say that this will help. Drugs do weird things to the body and mind because they are toxic.
If I had to use a drug Id learn self hypsosis to try to control the errant mind.
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