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Has anyone tried auricular therapy with homeopathic meds for lyme treatment here and what were the outcomes? I just had a meeting with a person last week who's family all has lymes like all of us here. They all tried abx for around two years with good initial improvement then stagnation. They finally decided to see another doc in Md (Dr S) who treats with the different treatments and have all returned to about 95% of normal. Also does anyone have any experience with this doc they could provide?
Thanks everyone in advance....
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- Where Dr. S works, there are some excellent ILADS educated NDs (and similar).
In your state, there may be some, too. But it sounds like you have run into one near you that want's to do basically ear acupuncture and homeopathics to start, or as their main offer. That concerns me (if it's as it sounds) as it could be far too limited.
EAR ACUPUNCTURE will not be enough and, IMO, not a good place at all to begin. I found the ear acupuncture it very painful, FAR too stimulating. Best to not confine it to just the ears.
And unless the acupuncturist is ILADS educated, they will not know how to work with a body with lyme, the overstimulation issues that can get worse if acupuncture is done in a regular fashion. There is a certain way, and it has to be very gentle.
Is this person ILADS educated? They really need to be.
There are two books regarding how homeopathic treatment were PART of success here:
When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods:
if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL ND (lyme literate naturopathic doctor) (or similar) who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -
- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present, and has completed the ILADS Physician Training Program (see: www.ilads.org )
Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.
When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.
Be aware that integrative doctors can have various levels of formal herbal &/or nutritional education, perhaps even just a short course. Do ask first. Some have learned on their own from experts in the field. There are many ways to acquire knowledge and most are eager to share basic details about their training. You want someone with a deep knowledge.
Some of the specialities above may not actually treat lyme yet, for things such as physical adjustments, it is just good that they are also LL, at least to some degree (to know never to suddenly twist the neck or spine).
Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:
Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;
knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.
You can compare and contrast many approaches.
BASIC HERBAL EDUCATIONAL & SAFETY links,
BODY WORK links with safety tailored to lyme patients,
& WHY you need an ILADS-educated, Lyme Literate Doctor (whether LLMD or LL ND, or both) -
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- To clarify, homeopathy is not the use of herbal medicine. They are totally different in many ways. However, both kinds of treatment are often used within an individualized protocol.
Homeopathy, alone, is not enough. Most often, those trained in homeopathy are NDs, L.Ac.s, etc. and learn various modalities.
Rarely, you will find someone who limits their work to just homeopathy. That, I do not suggest.
Again, stressing the importance of any professional you choose to be ILADS educated . . . Pulling that homeopathic post out from the set, note that homeopathics were not used alone, but in combination with many other things:
13-minute video - by ColdUnderstanding Jan 14, 2012
- after other treatment failures, one young woman's successful experience with homeopathy & herbal support treatment.
Just stay with her as she takes us through how she succeeded. She said it "worked miracles" - very authentic. Very hopeful.
(Parental caution for those with young children near your computer as you watch: there are few "adult" words near the end. Totally in context and within reason, yet perhaps not best for young ears.)
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Razzle suggests reading this book: "The Homeopathic Treatment of Lyme Disease" by Peter Alex -
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- I don't know where in Colorado you are but there is at least one excellent ILADS educated HOLISTIC LLMD in your state. He's even presented at many ILADS conferences.
If not close to you, or if he might not be able to provide all the therapies you want / need -- he would know the network of LLMDs, LL NDs and similar in your state, who would be ILADS educated. -
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Thank you for the information and getting back so quickly. I was actually considering this treatment as either a supplement to what I am currently doing or as a replacement if there was an overwhelming response to success. I currently have been treating with abx and other treatments for almost 2 years and seem to be hitting a sticking point. I feel that some symptoms have gotten worse such as neuro although others are better. I am seeing Dr K here in Colorado who is an ilads doc and very active in the community.
The person that i met with about Dr S stated that that doc had lyme as well and that they believed in the treatment so much that one family member is going back to school to receive medical training in the hopes of becoming a lyme advocate for patients.
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- Glad to know that you "get it" about the ILADS education for the foundation - then beyond that . . .
so much depends upon the SKILLS & range of the additional person you would see. As much as they need to know the science of lyme and all that goes with it, we are in the world of the healing ARTS.
Be sure to ask at your local, and state lyme support groups to see who are the best of the bunch -- or if you are to venture to another state, similar mode to find the best.
I assume you mean for COLORADO . . . or were you looking to go out to MARYLAND and see the same set of professionals you heard about.
Glad to hear that you see Dr. K there, I've followed his work for years. Hope you find what you need. Good luck. -
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Thank you very much for all your info and help...
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Auriculo-therapy is not necessarily acupuncture in the ear.
There are different schools that do NOT use acupuncture points, but very very different points in a different way.
Auriculo therapy, massage, gives different results, target different organs than acupuncture in the ear. It is a much NEWER practice than acupuncture itself, developed basically in the last century, as far as I know.
I bought 2 books on that, and that is what I got as info. The instruments for pressing points are different too. It is quite relaxing, I find. I don't know how to apply homeopathy through the ear, if it is that that you mentioned...
Without homeopathy, I wouldn't be here, I think. Homeopathy is what worked the best for us home.
That doesn't simplify the choice of treatment though, because there are MANY different schools of homeopathy, and still, many different uses an ways to 'take' an homeopathic substance.
Just for your info, I think I have about 1,000 different homeopathic substances that we used at home during the last 10 years... Some were mixed, in different potencies, the combinations give different results, and if used through light, other results, if injected, if used in trigger points, if rubbed...
I can live without any chemical remedies, even with very little plant medicines.
But I think I can't live without homeopathy. It deals with the problem differently and I find, deeper.
Recently, we are treating gout from my husband only with that, a bit of diet, a bit of vinegar, and we could for the first time avoid a crisis and NOT end up in ER.
We tried chemicals, they work, but they don't solve his problem for good, as the gout crisis return more and more frequently. This homeopathic approach is looking better, without side effects. Only time will tell though.
No matter in which area of health we are confronted, in the end, we always find solutions in homeopathy. The most recent substances we are taking are Schuessler Salts. Very mild, but I do think they are giving results.
Photon therapy that put our borrelia dormant for good (almost 5 years for me) is basically an homeopathic treatment using homeopathic nosodes. The only difference, is that we don't ingest these, but we take their info through light.
For me today, I just wonder how can anyone heal from any chronic disease without using homeopathic substances now and then.
It is so easy to deal with certain infections with nosodes, with some toxins with homeopathic cleansers, that I wonder why use the most difficult way? Or hormones? Why take the chemical version that destroys the ability of our glands when we could at least try the homeopathic version first and improve our glands?
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- Brussels,
Thanks so much for your note explaining that "Auriculo-therapy is not necessarily acupuncture in the ear."
I had looked up the term (to job my memory) via a basic web search and must have stopped short with the search results. I had a lot of ear acupuncture done so just sort of took off down that avenue.
Glad you expanded on what it can be. -
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13-minute video - by ColdUnderstanding Jan 14, 2012
- after other treatment failures, one young woman's successful experience with homeopathy & herbal support treatment.
Just stay with her as she takes us through how she succeeded. She said it "worked miracles" - very authentic. Very hopeful.
(Parental caution for those with young children near your computer as you watch: there are few "adult" words near the end. Totally in context and within reason, yet perhaps not best for young ears.)
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Razzle suggests reading this book: "The Homeopathic Treatment of Lyme Disease" by Peter Alex -
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