If the regimen you were on (or even your own body) is doing a decent job keeping the bad feelings at bay, why is it a good idea to take coartem or any of those drugs that shake the trees and release the poisons to make you feel bad? If your body is doing a good job masking the bad effects on its own, why shake the trees?
I took two doses of 1/4 tab of coartem last week. One Thurs and one Fri. Before that, I felt pretty good.
Since taking it, I have a headache on and off as well as the air hunger feeling on and off. I don't get the "on and off" air hunger, either. Why does it come and go? I feel tight, then an hour later it's back to normal. The next day, no new dose, but the air hunger/tightness come and go. Today is two days since the last dose and the air hunger feeling has already come and gone this morning.
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I'm a huge fan of let sleeping dogs lie.
The biggest mistake I made in my life was taking something that woke up a deep rooted CNS infection (Bart/Myco).
I always had BLO symptoms but this "treatment" (essential oil) woke up the infection and it doesn't go back to bed.
For this reason too I am a big fan of adaptogens - they help the immune system and body in the fight against these infections but they don't stir up the buggers directly.
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Wow, what did you take? I'm sorry that you are going through this.
What are adaptogens?
What is BLO?
I am wondering if, given that my functionality is 90+% if I shouldn't just work on immune system rather than shaking trees...
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That is what I am doing. I am at 80-90%. Still have flares and minor daily symptoms.
Gut gave out last summer with antibiotics. Am working on restoring my gut so if I need to go back in treatment in future can do so.
Currently, taking herbals for babesia and getting ready to start herbals for bartonella.
I am not sure current LLMD can get me symptom free and don't have money anymore to go to expensive LLMD.
My only concern is that dormant infections can get activated. Yikes! Do not want to go back.
So I think I will stay on herbals and rotate them.
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Herbals can irritate coinfections (especially Bart in my experience) worse than abxs.
Tinctured anti microbial herbs agitate and wake up Bartonella-like organisms for me. Zero healing takes place. I'm not even sure the antimicrobials do any killing - I think they just cause a flare (which many people mistake for a herx)
Adaptogens, or even teas like Boneset, are much more mild for treating the bugs but super effective.
Buhner says, in regards to herbs, that Adaptogens are his favorite.
Just google Adaptogens (Siberian ginseng, Rhodiola, ashwaghanda, schisandra, etc)
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What are the various herbals or adaptogens you are taking, if you don't mind? I see the list canefan included. Are there others that were mild?
I will look them up and also talk to my LLMD when I see her next week.
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Find them in a formula if you need something more "mild"
I found Adrenal Health by Gaia Herbs to be very useful because it was a good balance.
And start super slow - the first few days can be a tad jittery but then it calms down and becomes therapeutic.
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Just my opinion: Letting the sleeping dogs lie means keeping the rest of the house quiet
with exercise, eating clean and healthy, getting good sleep, low stress/ no drama, etc. Fit, healthy, sleep, zen life with some laughs. The best you can.
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