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So I started a set of antibiotics 4 weeks ago. I started to feel somewhat normal the brainfog,dizziness,dry eyes,weak legs,adrenal rush and other symtoms all stayed away. Which was exciting!
The past 4 days iam back feeling all the same symtoms and bad brain fog. Is this some what normal. My next llmd appointment isn't tell june 10th so I was just curious.I went 10 months miss dignoased.
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GretaM
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Hi Jake,
Yes! Totally normal!
Lyme flares every 4 weeks...
So good on you for blasting the spirochetes when they're flaring!
Electronic high-five!
If you increase your detox methods (away from when you take your antibiotics), it may help you to feel a bit better.
Way to go! Kill those buggers!
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The fourth week is generally the worst as you are having the 28th day herx. The 28th day herx (28 days after starting good treatment) is the worst herx most people have.
So, drink lots and lots of water with lemons squeezed into it. People are surprised how effective this is. Take Alka Seltzer Gold (or baking soda) up to 4 times per day for this rough period. And, if you have any glutathione, take it.
"Another very important factor is response to treatment- presence or absence of Jarisch Herxheimer-like reactions, the classic four-week cycle of waxing and waning of symptoms, and improvement with therapy." (page 7)
"With treatment, these monthly symptom flares are exaggerated and presumably represent recurrent Herxheimer-like reactions as Bb enters its vulnerable growth phase and then are lysed. For unknown reasons, the worst occurs at the fourth week of treatment. Observation suggest that the more severe this reaction, the higher the germ load, and the more ill the patient." (page 17)
"It has been observed that symptoms will flare in cycles every four weeks. It is thought that this reflects the organism’s cell cycle, with the growth phase occurring once per month (intermittent growth is common in Borrelia species). As antibiotics will only kill bacteria during their growth phase, therapy is designed to bracket at least one whole generation cycle. This is why the minimum treatment duration should be at least four weeks.
If the antibiotics are working, over time these flares will lessen in severity and duration. The very occurrence of ongoing monthly cycles indicates that living organisms are still present and that antibiotics should be continued." (page 17)
So, welcome to high-dose combo lyme treatment. If you can't stand this herx, you can stop meds for 1-3 days so your body can catch up with detoxing.
Keep track of this first herx on the calendar, and watch as the 28-day pattern develops. See if the herxes lessen.
Herxheimer reaction (from 2010 Lyme Conference, Dr. H):
Take-home message: DETOXIFY YOUR LYME PATIENTS!
It does NOT matter what antibiotic you give people, they will NOT get better without detoxification
For Herxheimer reactions: 2 Alka-Selzer Gold (no aluminum) in 8 ounces of water with lemon or lime followed by 6-8 capsules of glutathione or 1500 mg of oral liposomal glutathione.
70% will feel better in hours
On the topic of water: Dilution is the solution to pollution. This suggests that in order to help our bodies detoxify, we must drink more water
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