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Those who have a pe-1 photon could you please tell me how you like it and what it has done for you and if it was worth the money
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No it doesn't work. Mine is under the couch gathering dust. The only thing this gadget is FDA approved to do is stimulate circulation to help wounds heal faster. It also increases endorphins. My daughter's fiancé tried it on his back to reduce pain and it helped a little but not enough to make a difference.
I used it for hours at a time. I bought the nosodes, taped them to my abdomen and used the light on the acupuncture points. I was told to only use the light a few minutes as it is so "powerful".
I felt nothing. So the next day I used it for an hour - then hours. Nothing. I watched TV with the thing balanced on different part of my body hoping it would do something. I paid $1400 for the "machine" and $200 for the noodles.
LDN increases endorphins and is a lot cheaper. The endorphins stimulate the immune system. LDN is FAR more effective.
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I LOVE photon treatment!!! I was able to put my major co-infections into dormancy !!!! I had all of them, just name it, babesia, bartonella, borrelia, erhlichia, rickettsia, mycoplasmas, brucella, ….
My outstanding issues are protozoan parasites and I treat it using MMS. When I don’t herx, I feel great- almost 95%. I would continue to use photons, if I could only identify the pathogen and have appropriate nosode. Since I can’t ( energetic testing only gives positive for broad protozoan parasites) I use MMS , but with great result too.
I continue to use my PE1 for detox- pulsed frequencies and direct light with systemic drainage nosode. In order to succeed with photons, you MUST test energetically which pathogen needs to be addressed, how often, and at which potency. Without that I don’t think it will work.
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So great to hear you are doing SO well, Anuta!!
I also have a PE-1. I haven't used it enough to see results yet, but hope to soon.
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Me too, I love my PE1. All the machines I bought during lyme, that is the ONLY one I still use on and off.
Hulda Clark zapper does very little.
A small Rife machine: I hate the feeling of electricity though my body.
The KMT from dr. K, almost designed for lyme and coinfections, has been packed for many years.
I do not think any machine will heal a very bad chronic lyme disease, unless you do a thorough treatment (cleaning, coinfections, teeth, gut, allergy, electrosmog, hormones, etc), but for borrelia, I swear, the PE1 was the only thing that stopped our relapses.
and we are still being bitten by ticks, as we live in tick land. So far, I'm 5 years lyme free, no relapse, and my daughter, about 3 years. She relapsed once shortly for about 2 weeks in these last 5 years, but lyme was put dormant pretty fast after a two week photon treatment.
definitively, if my PE1 breaks, I get a new one. That is by far, the only thing that gives me the feeling I'm safe against borrelia, if it comes again.
But as I told above, it only treats basically borrelia. And the set of borrelia nosodes cost less than 40 dollars (about 25 euros) and you just buy them once and use them for the whole treatment.
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That's so great to hear, Brussels!! Do you think the PE-1 works for co-infections too?
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Hi Birdie, I think it works for some, but not for all coinfections.
You got to see which infections react to homeopathic nosodes.
I know bartonella is one, many people here used bart nosodes (ingested) with results, so photon treatment will work coupled with bart nosodes.
But babesia, i think I read only ONE person using bab nosodes that got better. So I believe, babesia won't be healed with photons.
Most viruses react to nosodes, so they photons may help, I suppose. Mycoplasma shall react then, rickettsia, I suppose too. But really, it's a one by one trial and error, my guess is that anything close to a virus react well, and bigger pathogens (like babesia, or parasites) react less.
But in our case, once borrelia got dormant, it was much easier to treat the rest. It is like borrelia blocks treatment, when it is active.
Once it goes dormant, or inactive, many pathogens disappear like magic.
But as I told before, I have treated using dr. K's method before, and got to remission a couple of times with dr. K's, Buhner, Cowden, homeopathy etc. My problem was that I kept relapsing after about 4 months without treatment.
Photon treatment put my borrelia dormant for good and since then, knocking on wood, it still remains dormant.
But I today doubt that if I didn't treat cavitations, mercury, lead, parasites, psycho blockades, liver /kidney/lymph, hormones, electrosmog, and used extensive homeopathic treatment to correct all that, if only photons would have done the job.
I think the answer is no.
But I do thank my PE1 for what it did. In no way, I would give it to anyone.
another thing I did recently, as I am having an old root canal getting infected again, was to photoon homeopathic MMS. It did not kill the infection but, my liver got totally unblocked!!!
I get liver pains when an infection is active. Photooning MMS felt wonderful. And those dilutions made my body accept MMS like it never did before.
I can drink the awful stuff without tummy pain anymore. And I took about 4-6 drops at once, while before, 1/2 a drop would make my tummy ache and I just gave the whole thing up.
And another thing hte PE1 can do is to treat scars. You guys do not believe, but a scar can make lyme be active by itself!
Neuraltherapy treats scars and you can see miraculous healing sometimes, just by treating scars.
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Thank you brussels! It's so nice of you to continue to come back here and share what has worked for you.
I am doing MMS orally. I started a week ago so haven't seen much improvement yet but I am hopeful. Interesting that you made a nosode of it. What a great idea.
I guess I just need to get going and start treating with my PE-1. I have been a little scared to make a mistake and do it wrong. I would really love to go see Dr W this summer and have been seriously thinking about it. Just to get me going in the right direction and then I can do more when I get home.
I've heard before the same thing that you said, once the borrelia is gone, the other pathogens are more easily treated. That makes sense.
Thanks for the idea about the scars. I just used the light on a couple scars that I have.
Thanks again for all of your great information.
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Wow, Selma homeo MMS with photons, that’s must be powerful! I did homeo dilutions of MMS 6 months ago when I started it, but after one week it stopped testing. So I switched to regular MMS.
MMS works wonders for me. Few days after I started it, ALL other killers, organ supports, detox supplements stopped testing. My body doesn’t want anything else, only MMS. This happened to me for the first time into my Lyme 7 years escapade.
In regards to the Borrelia going away and other co-infections are easier to treat. That exact thing happened to my husband, he had very minor almost non-existent Lyme symptoms, once we treated Borrelia trough nosodes+photons for him, he became asymptomatic, although he tested positive for other co-infections.
In my case it didn’t happened. I guess, it is very individual. I had to treat all of them, and once I treated the most, protozoan parasites blossomed the full force. MMS seems to work very well for it.
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Anuta, are you also doing the parasite protocol that Kerri Rivera has in her book along with MMS?
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Great to hear from you all
If someone is interested in the MMS homeopathic, I did the following dilutions, it took me less than 20 minutes to get all done.
X1, X3, X6, X9, x12, X15. I put each on a vial, and taped on my solar plexus then photooned like borrelia nosodes.
I don't think this stuff kills, but it did something to my liver I still do not understand. Before I had a 'stone' in my liver, I mean, before I did the treatment. I even didn't know about that, only when the feeling was gone, I felt it was there before.
dr.K says we have so many parasites and they block the liver ducts. I wonder if the liver ducts got freed by the treatment?
Anyway, coincidence or not, since that photooning, I can take even 6 drops of MMS, and before I could not stand even half a drop without tummy aches.
I'm still careful though, and do not want to take more than 2-4 drops a day (just because I do not like chemicals). And I let my MMS sit for at least 24 hours. The color it gets is amazing. Shining yellow.
My naturopath (the one in close contact to dr. K) says that you can buy activated MMS and it is less hard on the stomach. Well, I didn't, but I just let it sit in a vial, that I keep tightly closed. The change of color (it is NOT amber, it is more yellow than egg yolk!) tells me that reaction continues happening many hours after. And probably, that is what causes tummy aches?
Just a guess. Anyway.
I have a bad root canal infected again. That is why I'm taking that MMS, as the tooth is dead and I need to remove, do an implant, etc.
Too much work, but I guess I have to face it sooner or later. It's a frontal tooth and it horrifies me to think that I need an implant.
Another thing is working there is lavender essential oil. I'm taking it sipping, and it also feels wonderful. During lyme, I never tried it, I thought it was too weak for killing, but I'm surprised it does work well too. ---------
Birdie!
You can keep trying on the PE1, just keep your binders at hand.
If you want to treat scars, you have to treat it holding it with your hand, and photooning program A, at about power 5-7, all the points of MFT (a bit like EFT). Do not forget behind the neck, at the base of the skull. I let each point be treated with photons for about 30 seconds or maximum a minute.
then I would photoon the scar with the frequency that tests good for it, while I simply tap for 40 seconds all MFT points. Then I only need that treatment once a week. It lasts maximum 6 weeks for eliminating a scar.
Scar: it can be an actual scar from surgery, from injury. It can be just a part that was hurt badly, without letting any visible signs. Like a brain concussion, for example. A scar can be also left in the joints, or parts that got badly infected (In our case, borrelia did that to some joints and teeth), and we also treated them as scars.
I treat only one scar at a time.
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I used the Bionic 880, which is also a photon treatment. It got me better from infections, then I worked on detoxification and generally getting my body stronger and healthier.
I treated parasites and heavy metals prior to photon treatment. I detoxed, exercised (a lot), got enough rest/sleep, rebuilt minerals in my body, ate healthy, etc. to get better once the infections were gone.
I saw improvement with photons within weeks, but it did take about a year to feel the infections were gone. I continued maintenance treatment for a year after that, then just continued to exercise, sleep, and eat right.
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I guess, that's basically it, like Sixgkids says. Other treatments must be done to correct the body, detox, etc.
Photons and nosodes take care of borrelia, but I suppose that if I ate badly, slept badly, was still sleeping with massive electrosmog, didnt' treat other big problems (heavy metals, amalgams, cavitations), etc, I wonder if photons alone would have done the job so fast.
It took me and my daughter from january 2009 till May that same year to be totally lyme free. It's too fast. Never happened before with other treatments.
But we had done other treatments before for about 4 years.
Photons and nosodes use your own immune system to fight borrelia. There's nothing else.
Suppose you have very little left from your immune system, due to allergies for example (people with lyme do not care about food intolerances and still eat wheat that is mostly bad for everyone with lyme), or load them with pesticides, colorants, whatever, and on top, abx to help destroy their flora.
Well, you then do photons and nosodes, and I wonder if you can get healed.
Homeopathy and energy medicine, acupuncture, reiki, whatever, uses your own energy to heal. It is not really much that come from outside.
But if your body is already too toxic, or stressed with electrosmog or allergies, chemicals, I wonder where the healing energy will come from.
Food allergies and intolerances is also a big issue, treated from day 1 by dr K's practioners. They put every one on a diet.
During lyme, eating wheat made me feel tired on its own. That was my only intolerance symptom. But I only discovered that when I stopped eating it for a while. If you consume it daily, and stop for a day, you won't know it.
Anyway, just a few more thoughts for those who want to go on the photon way.
After lyme I started eating wheat again. But it never felt as good. So I substituted by spelt and oat. Only now, I'm starting a gluten free diet, just to do it together with my daughter (she is on a gluten free diet). It also feels good.
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I still eat gluten free (I don't eat rice either, I get just as bloated from it). Once in a while I eat gluten and get tired and bloated. Also with gluten I get those bumps on the backs of my arms, rough elbows, and bumps on my forehead by my hairline. My seasonal allergies come back when I eat gluten.
I eat it a few times per year because I do not have celiac, but it's not a regular thing for me to eat.
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Interesting, I have also found that reducing my intake of gluten feels better in terms of energy level.
I also use a PE-1 along with peripheral devices. It's worked great with lyme and co-infections, and I've seen it reduce the severity of many other infections as well. It's also been great with strains and sprains.
Having a method of testing for time, location, spacing, intensity, etc is important though.
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It's funny to see most of people with lyme will suffer from candida, sooner or later (or before lyme, like in my case, and after lyme!!).
For what I've seen during the past years, everyone who suffers from chronic lyme have gut problems.
What is the cause for what -- lyme causing gut problems, or gut problems causing lyme -- is THE question. I guess it could be both. Lyme will mess up with the gut for sure.
The most common gut problems are leaky gut, celiac, chron's, food allergies /intolerance, parasites, lack of good probiotic bacteria, infestation with pathogens, heavy metals and toxins.
Lyme was for us not that hard to 'control'. Candida /fungi took me longer. My daughter had no candida, but she always had some food allergies, and her nails are weak.
We always come back to departure point: gut.
Somehow, gluten free is a good thing for us.
Maybe as good as a sugar/ glucose free diet (we still eat fresh fruits, and love them!!).
Our lyme is dormant for years, but we are still trying to fix our guts. Our hope is this will prevent a series of diseases, including falling sick with lyme and candida again.
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